Nope.
Soy contains isoflavones (a phytoestrogen). You say the anti soy debate is funded by diary farmers, I say the pro soy debate is funded by soy manufacturers and vegans. Still, soy contains isoflavones and it MIGHT cause problems, as you said. Might doesnt mean wont. It's better to be cautious no?
Who has more money/influence/power? The dairy farmers or the soy industry/vegans?
You're right. Might doesn't mean won't. But meat and dairy DEFINITIVELY contribute to heart disease, cancer and diabetes. Proven.
Different genetics. Adaptation. Other differences in diet. Difference in lifestyle. Difference in environment. All those also factor into the fact that physically they are smaller people. So can I say that soy eating means people will be smaller?
What about India? One of the highest cancer rates in all of the world, if not the highest right now.
Extremely high consumption of dairy in India, led by the Hindu perception of cows as being "holy". Direct correlation. Many Indians are becoming lactose intolerant in older years due to high consumption of dairy since childhood too. Lots of that, and cancer in my own family, dairy consumption one of the most likely factors.
Arnold could have become a vegan in his prime, and you'd call him a "vegan Bodybuilder," even though to get to that point he ate a lot of meat and meat based supplements. Not to mention, dat der cell tech.
Are you suggesting that all the vegan bodybuilders in the world used to eat meat? Seems like a stretch.
Not to get personal but judging from your fat chin and poor posture I doubt that you're "toned as fuck."
Not to get personal, but you did. It's OK, people generally only do that knowing their argument is weak. "Fat chin", ha. Yeah, because people that weigh less than 11 stone have fat chins. I have a wide jaw, it's simply my bone structure. Not an ounce of fat anywhere on my body. and also, LMAO at poor posture.... like you've actually met me or have any basis for that. There's about as much basis for that as for me saying you clearly have herpes.
Dont you think that source might be a bit biased? It's like a Christian pointing to the vatican website to prove his point.
Hardly the same thing. You repeatedly make insinuate, and sometimes even state that it is "impossible" to "pack muscle" on a vegan diet. I point to an entire community of vegan bodybuilders. All the issues you have, they can educate you on. That's all.
Actually, and now you're just starting to piss me off with your one sided trolling bullshit, you're the one BLATHERING on about soy. I mentioned it in passing along with beans and lentils. You chose to write a whole fucking essay about it. I also actually said that I love tofu and bean curd and only drink soy milk.
No, you mentioned at least twice about the disproven estrogen thing, so I pointed out that soy is not a requirement for a vegan diet, even for a vegan bodybuilder. Comeback? wait, there isn't one. Pwned.