Religion = Evil [RIP Dr. George Tiller]
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jeez not this again 
come on guys, stop before we get another huge ass religion thread.
Since God is something that is neither true or false because we can't tell we will always have arguments. By Caseys definition radiation or even stones or sand don't exist.
Also the original context is Religion, not God.
Religion is oftenly just a group of laws and regulations that define some sort of moral standards which are usually good. The addition of real or fictional stories just explain most laws why they are so important. It doesn't even matter if they're real or false. They are good though. What is the point in hating them so much then? If there's nothing in the bible that makes Christians hate atheists then why do atheists hate Christians?
There's not even one point in most popular religions that suggests people to do bad things like harming other people, killing, lying, waging wars, judging differently etc. etc.
Most so called "wars over religion" are bullshit.
Usually religion is just a pretext. Religion tells you to respect other people no matter what. Killing under ANY circumstances is bad and considered the biggest sin. I don't understand what's bad here. If you see a killer who claims to be Christian or Muslim he's not religious. It's as simple as that.
Now go on, make your list of morals that are important to you, write down short stories like "Britney was a slut so she failed to sell enough albums", "Johnny beats his wife, then got shot by her friend who thought that he's a dick. Now Johnny doesn't beat his wife." etc. etc. Now send that list to anyone else, let's say - this person will start liking it and seeing some important morals he failed to see before. Should people hate that person for this? Should they say "ooh you like 'that list'. You're worse/stupid/childish.You are harming my intelect by having your own beliefs. Die stfu"?
come on guys, stop before we get another huge ass religion thread.Since God is something that is neither true or false because we can't tell we will always have arguments. By Caseys definition radiation or even stones or sand don't exist.
Also the original context is Religion, not God.
Religion is oftenly just a group of laws and regulations that define some sort of moral standards which are usually good. The addition of real or fictional stories just explain most laws why they are so important. It doesn't even matter if they're real or false. They are good though. What is the point in hating them so much then? If there's nothing in the bible that makes Christians hate atheists then why do atheists hate Christians?
There's not even one point in most popular religions that suggests people to do bad things like harming other people, killing, lying, waging wars, judging differently etc. etc.
Most so called "wars over religion" are bullshit.
Usually religion is just a pretext. Religion tells you to respect other people no matter what. Killing under ANY circumstances is bad and considered the biggest sin. I don't understand what's bad here. If you see a killer who claims to be Christian or Muslim he's not religious. It's as simple as that.
Now go on, make your list of morals that are important to you, write down short stories like "Britney was a slut so she failed to sell enough albums", "Johnny beats his wife, then got shot by her friend who thought that he's a dick. Now Johnny doesn't beat his wife." etc. etc. Now send that list to anyone else, let's say - this person will start liking it and seeing some important morals he failed to see before. Should people hate that person for this? Should they say "ooh you like 'that list'. You're worse/stupid/childish.You are harming my intelect by having your own beliefs. Die stfu"?
Incorrect. Genetic defects caused by things such as inbreeding affects reproduction and evolution. There are other defects that do not allow reproduction, some men become impotent and some women cannot get pregnant. A gene can be passed along and be hidden for a few generations, then pop up. It takes a long time to get rid of bad genes.
FUN FACT!: Adolf Hitler's nephews and nieces vowed never to have children so they could stop the Hitler bloodline. Take THAT anti-semite gene
FUN FACT!: Adolf Hitler's nephews and nieces vowed never to have children so they could stop the Hitler bloodline. Take THAT anti-semite gene
Extremely redundant topic.
No one is going to change anyone else's views on religion over the internet.
You won't make me stop believing in religion, I won't make you start believing in it. Can't we just be content with that? Why argue? It's pretty foolish.
Insanity is doing the same act over and over and expecting different outcomes...which is exactly what this debate is doing. It's, in every sense of the word, ridiculous.
No one is going to change anyone else's views on religion over the internet.
You won't make me stop believing in religion, I won't make you start believing in it. Can't we just be content with that? Why argue? It's pretty foolish.
Insanity is doing the same act over and over and expecting different outcomes...which is exactly what this debate is doing. It's, in every sense of the word, ridiculous.
i want to say one thing. it is right that this thread is going nowhere. i'm conscientious of that fact as i write these words, yet i must write them nonetheless because i'm so passionate about this subject. it is true that people who are deluded do not know they are deluded. years ago, i may have lashed out against the very words i'm uttering now. yet, the fact remains that religion must die for humankind to survive.
i urge all people, use your reason. use your education. read the "god delusion" by dawkins, read "the end of faith" by harris. religion is detrimental to society. it is the collective fear of death that terrifies people to believe that they will live eternally in heaven. it's bullshit, it's garbage. yes, your belief sounds better than mine. but mine is true.
i urge all people, use your reason. use your education. read the "god delusion" by dawkins, read "the end of faith" by harris. religion is detrimental to society. it is the collective fear of death that terrifies people to believe that they will live eternally in heaven. it's bullshit, it's garbage. yes, your belief sounds better than mine. but mine is true.
I don't consider myself religious but if others believe in God thats fine, why cant others have their own beliefs? As long as they arnt shooting doctors as they attend church, picketing soldiers funerals etc I dont see why we (non-believers) cant let it go?
As far as the whole religion = morals, I don't quite believe, if your looking back in history that society was under completely different circumstances. The Catholic church wasn't exactly the most morally sound organisation.
As far as the whole religion = morals, I don't quite believe, if your looking back in history that society was under completely different circumstances. The Catholic church wasn't exactly the most morally sound organisation.
No, thats wrong!
People didnt get morals from religion (basically). I mean your argument would only make sense if you claim morals would not have existed before religion came up because otherwise you are left with the question where people before religion got their morals from.
Its quite easy in my opinion. Religion is man made and if people, as you claim, got it from religion at some point, it all comes down to the fact that they automatically got it from people who wrote these books or scriptures...and their morals developed due to the environment that they grew up in (society, family, whatever).
Morals are deeply rooted in humans and their social groups in which they inevitably live in.
Quite frankly, i dont know what you mean with this statement.
It is not the definitive truth but measured by the standards of every discourse about anything in this century, Dawkins makes way more sense than the bible ever made.
Atheists, dont hate christians per se. I mean, i wont rule out that there is some nutcase who considers himself to be an atheist and hates every believer.
However i will add, that i cant stand the lack of logic in every believers way of thinking, when it comes to religion/god. It doesnt mean that i cant stand the person though. It just means that i cant stand this part of his or her behaviour.
Thats just not true.
People didnt get morals from religion (basically). I mean your argument would only make sense if you claim morals would not have existed before religion came up because otherwise you are left with the question where people before religion got their morals from.
Its quite easy in my opinion. Religion is man made and if people, as you claim, got it from religion at some point, it all comes down to the fact that they automatically got it from people who wrote these books or scriptures...and their morals developed due to the environment that they grew up in (society, family, whatever).
Morals are deeply rooted in humans and their social groups in which they inevitably live in.
Quite frankly, i dont know what you mean with this statement.
It is not the definitive truth but measured by the standards of every discourse about anything in this century, Dawkins makes way more sense than the bible ever made.
Atheists, dont hate christians per se. I mean, i wont rule out that there is some nutcase who considers himself to be an atheist and hates every believer.
However i will add, that i cant stand the lack of logic in every believers way of thinking, when it comes to religion/god. It doesnt mean that i cant stand the person though. It just means that i cant stand this part of his or her behaviour.
Thats just not true.
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