To all the producers... Sidechaining

[Salar]

I was wondering how you guys use sidechaining when your making beats.
Incase you don't know what sidechaining is:
Say you have a track that has a killer bass line through out.
but you also have the kick drum (which has a bassy sound to it as well) so when these two go ontop of each other, the bass sounds distorted or just goes slightly out of whack. And say you have vocals on top of this. So your in desperate need of compression. So you sidechain the tracks so when the kick drum kicks in, the volume of the bass line goes down and inbetween beats the bass line is louder again.
Same thing can happen with vocals. During the vocals the volume is of the instrumental is lower and when they finish it's louder again.
A good example is that dance song Call On Me by Eric Prydz.

Some DJ's and producers use some pretty cool compression tricks to do this. I was wondering how u guys did it.

 

[Hymnz]

i cant remember how i used it, because i havent in a long time. i find that even most rap songs produced by the 'big boys' use either:
*a weak kick and a phat bass (no frequency clashes)
*a huge kick and a softer bass (they might opt for a real bass guitar sound...)

sidechaining can sound extremenly awkward, and most hip-hop producers dont fuck with it. finding the perfect medium between the kick and bass is probably the best way of going about a good mix.

 

[Salar]

see for hiphop tracks i do agree with you. But what if your using a very dirty sansamp effect. Though sansamp isn't used for hiphop tracks (YET).
Now have the sansamp effect with a mild bass and the kick... and you'll most definitely have some frequency clashes.

You hiphop producers should play with the sansamp more. (just quietly)