Time to move on? My thoughts as a pac fan. Please read.

#21
PowerDeals, Some of us have jobs and go to college. We come on here to talk about pac and get info and chat intelligently. We do not have time to come on to clown and joke and start net beef because we're not 13; what's the point of comin on to a serious thread and saying useless stuff. Shouldn't u be posting on the "Would Tupac like Durags?" post..
 
#22
I think it's a combination between what happend with the board and the wack production no video, no good promotion no nothing! So that takes away all the excitement around Pac
 
#23
MakaveliPrime01 said:
PowerDeals, Some of us have jobs and go to college. We come on here to talk about pac and get info and chat intelligently. We do not have time to come on to clown and joke and start net beef because we're not 13; what's the point of comin on to a serious thread and saying useless stuff. Shouldn't u be posting on the "Would Tupac like Durags?" post..
go chat intelligently somewhere else you faggot. do you know what you are sounding like??? you're living in a dream,there is no place on the net where you can chat intelligently,go do that in a coffeehouse or something,not here. and what's wrong with the topic "would tupac like durags", what are you trying to say??? it's people like this guy who ruin these boards with their senseless bullshit.

oh you dont have time to clown around,oh im sorry mr. perfect. stfu mang don't try to act all smart and shit. you sound like those fucks that go on dr.phil or something.
 

Pezz

United Slave
#24
powerdeals2003 said:
go chat intelligently somewhere else you faggot. do you know what you are sounding like??? you're living in a dream,there is no place on the net where you can chat intelligently,go do that in a coffeehouse or something,not here. and what's wrong with the topic "would tupac like durags", what are you trying to say??? it's people like this guy who ruin these boards with their senseless bullshit.

oh you dont have time to clown around,oh im sorry mr. perfect. stfu mang don't try to act all smart and shit. you sound like those fucks that go on dr.phil or something.
now theres an intellegent man!
 

The.Menace

Well-Known Member
Staff member
#25
After pac left, things change, the rap game died.

Loyal 2 tha game is the wackest pac album ever made.

Put 2 and 2 together, i understand where you coming from, but i will never feel what you saying, because its westside for life yo. Just take a break and come back yo, thats all. When the right tupac album get release, you be back believe that.
Quote. Rap ain't the same anyway and it doesn't help if the release a shitty album. When Betta deays came out I was excited....but I wasn't when LTTG came out. Why? Was it Pac? No....it was cause what they made with his music. I still haven't got the album and I never will. This release wasn't for me, for us.
Anyway, of course u'll grow older and won't be that excited about all this, it happens 2 me too.....but if u hear or see the right shit, it's gonna be there again. If I watch Resurrection, I'm like blown away every time and I saw it 5 times by now, at least.....

Bu of course I agree that it would be time 2 move on, but where should we move 2? I don't enjoy any of those new rappers, should I listen 2 50? Eminem? GUnit? ... sorry, I can't.... it's just like I said above, Rap died in 1996 for me, so where am U supposed 2 move now? ....guess I'll stay where I am.

peace
 
#26
I'd like to say I can feel Tupac in any situation, as he has hit me on a variety of different levels. I have no need to wait for the next album to drop as I have 17 of them already!. I feel as though Pac in some way or another has become a part of me, whether it just be that I know his lyrics inside out or just relating to him as a human being.

It's unique the feeling I get when I notice something I never really recognized before, plus with Tupac's music you can look at it in endless perspectives.

Enthusiasm to me is just relating to Tupac, listening to him and soaking in his wisdom. I will never get tired or bored of anything to do with Tupac.
 
#27
Personal Conclusion

Hey yo, 1st of all: this is some good topic to post in here!

I would like to find out these anwers to your questions, just as you all. I can imagine that with at a growing age young people tend to loose fascniation over sth they have lied sooo much before, so that would be a normal thing (I experienced this thing myself a lot of times, too in my life). But STILL I am convinced that it is something DIFFERENT with Pac BECAUSE if you once fully understand who Pac was, then he will be aprt of your life FOREVER. The reason why I am so sure at this point is, that I think Pac stands for so many grave & real topics of life (such as death, life, religion, compasssion and a lot else), that he inspires someone else for ever. And this is teh beautiful thing about Tupac, I believe.

Listen: Loosing to have fun by checking these forums or in collecting Pac’s stuff DOES NOT MEAN that you loose fascination about him, at least this is in my case. Like I said, once you really begin to love him, you will recognize that he is God given and leads you & accompanies you through life as well. Trust me, it does not matter if you collect CD’s, books and stuff, what IS important, however, is that you learn that Pac is part of our every day life cause he teaches us so many lessons (such as using every single day as much as you can). Thats what counts! Thats why he is all-time present.

Such a conclusion like mine, may only come to your mind , if you first study Pac to some degree (I am following Pac for 6 years now), but once you have understood it, ist beautiful.

Keep ya head up, Twirlz, also a pause from Pac may have a helpful effect on you, afterwards , when you return to listening to Pac, it may feel better for you.


No worry, it ll be allright.
 

Shot 21

Active Member
#28
First of all Rukas your info wasnt ignored by me. Secondly, Twirlzy, I probably shouldnt be giving you advice as I have only been a Pac fan for a year (I still have 17 cds, 9 dvds and know loads about him) but my advice would be to put your 2 Pac cds away completely. All of them. Spend 1 month just thinking about them, the best songs, the worst songs, the deep songs etc but do not listen to a single song. Maybe at the end of the month you will have some of the excitement back.

Just a suggestion.
 

Shot 21

Active Member
#29
The.Menace said:
Quote. Rap ain't the same anyway and it doesn't help if the release a shitty album. When Betta deays came out I was excited....but I wasn't when LTTG came out. Why? Was it Pac? No....it was cause what they made with his music. I still haven't got the album and I never will. This release wasn't for me, for us.
Anyway, of course u'll grow older and won't be that excited about all this, it happens 2 me too.....but if u hear or see the right shit, it's gonna be there again. If I watch Resurrection, I'm like blown away every time and I saw it 5 times by now, at least.....

Bu of course I agree that it would be time 2 move on, but where should we move 2? I don't enjoy any of those new rappers, should I listen 2 50? Eminem? GUnit? ... sorry, I can't.... it's just like I said above, Rap died in 1996 for me, so where am U supposed 2 move now? ....guess I'll stay where I am.

peace
Whatever you do dont listen to Eminem and G Unit. Loyal To The Game is good to listen to, but if your friend says to you "Lemme listen to a 2 Pac album. I wanna see what that cat was like?" then for fucks saik dont give him LTTG. Give him Greatest Hits.
 
#30
yo, everyone goes through them stages with pac, ive been collecting and listening 11 years now, i only listen to pac now because everything else is garbage,its very hard to keep up with all the different releases and try and find all the old releases, but thats the fun of it, ive been through every stage with pac, from couldnt get enough, to sheding a tear, but ya gotta keep pluggin to get where ya going with your collection, shit is mad expensive and money dosent grow on trees, shit like that leaves me depressed, and then hearing an album like loyal 2 the game is like getting a kick in the bollox, but one thing i learned with pac over the years is we always get some real nice shit every once in again, and thats what u have to wait for, might take a few months, but it always happens
keep pluggin man, good things come to those that wait
 
#34
u know i have been feeling the same way i think alot had ta do with lltg it was terrible slowed vocals fast on the next not song it just was not pac i went and bought me against the world ( im going to find whoever stole it!!!) and have been listning to that right now. but there was accourding to amaur a 2ed 2* disc last year that we never got then we get lttg.
 
#35
this topic took off big time damn. Thanks too everyone who replied in a sensible manner - and i was suprised some on here knew of me - i tend to say on the low, so thanks for the support. To get back into the pac spirit i have started to work on somthing, which i will post in the next few days. thanks again and peace.
 

Pittsey

Knock, Knock...
Staff member
#36
The thing is there's a lot of young fans who come here, they're new to Pac and they ask a lot of dumb questions.
There's also a case of the questions getting asked again and again.
For example - Who's Stretch? What religion is 2pac? What was the last song? Is *any OG* available freely in cdq?
I'm not saying they're bad questions but when you've been here a while they get repetitive.
The other big problem is 2pac isn't here anymore, you've only been a fan for 4 years, which isn't long. You've been able to go through all the stuff he released during his life in the last 4 years and it's all felt new to you. But now he's not here and the stuff released isn't quality, you won't be feeling it as much.
It's a bit like when a lot of people come here and post that they're upset about Pac's death, we were all pissed by it, but most people felt that way a long time ago.
There's still good stuff available that gets me excited, when a decent OG leaks, or some good footage of 2pac, it's just that it's not usually released by Amaru.
The way I feel now is that the majority of rap is shit, especially if you compare it to 1994-1998, especially mainstream releases, and there isn't too much on the underground scene that gets me either. I prefer to listen to the music than the lyrics now, except for my back collection of cd's, otherwise I'd listen to nothing. So I'm a fan of Kanye's as he always produces hot beats, but apart from him I don't care too much. Maybe I'm just getting too old, or have too much going on.
 
#37
Thanks Pittsey nice reply. yea, i think im gonna be around a long ass time - iv just matured ya know - like somone else mentioned when you get to your 20's you begin to view things differently. I am begining to agree. Thanks.
 
#38
This is such a lengthy subject to discuss, but I did my best to "say the least"
I can relate my experience with 2pac to that I had with Che. I'm not comparing Guevara to 'pac in a sense of what they did, but how they influenced me and to what degree did they cease to become such an everyday discussion. It all started when I saw this biography of Che on the history channel and what followed was a revolution in itself. Reading books about him, writing papers about him, trying to understand his ideologies, his modesty, his bravery, and the mystery behind his death. I have to say, that would outline as the greatest factor in what influenced me to 'pac at first. HIS DEATH... Wow, I can recall those endless hours I sat the computer just shredding those theories and trying to convince myself that somehow he was alive. Ofcourse later, his music and excellent storytelling, his drive and passion, made me want to understand and listen to his music even more. This was all quite a while ago and until two months ago, I hadn't listened to tupac for about a year. But during that period he remained an asset in my life and I always considered myself "a huge tupac fan". He reminded me to stand up for what is right, to be relentless in the pursuit of my goals. Hell if it wasn't for him, I would have never known about Machiavelli or Sun Tzu. See it's all like some big fuckin' chain where all of these issues come together. Life, love, death, passion, role models, and influential people. To not wear Makaveli T-shirts or Che caps does not undermine you looking up to such powerful personalities of our time. And so to not listen to tupac because all his songs you've heard a trillion times and his story and his death and all those vibe coverpages, you've read about and seen. Again, all of this loss of interest with the discussions on the board and the entire chapter with that of Tupac's mystique will subside. You don't hear people running around and talking about Jesus everyday, not to compare 'pac with Jesus, but you get my point. Some will always be involved with Tupac more than others, but hey, it's like everything else in life. Repitition becomes lackluster, what you are first captures by later become normal and almost dull. Their stories will carry on and their legacies that's for sure, but to be a tupac fan is not to listen or watch or read of him everyday, but to understand what he lived and died for, and keep at heart.
 
#39
Great topic. Myself, I've been a Pac fan since 1997. After seven years of listening to Pac almost every day, I kinda got a little fed up and only listened to him a few times a month maybe. I got into other music, mainly classical rock. But in the last months I find myself listening to Pac on a daily basis again. So I suggest you leave your Pac CD's rest for some time, you'll see that you'll regain the interest in Pac again.;)
 
#40
yo, its them! All those motherfuckaz who are greedy and all want a piece of 2pac. Death Row, Amaru...the rest...its their fault. Releasing trash like LTTG. wft was that? I think every record label and person that has any of 2pac's material should release it the way 2pac heard and rapped over it, and finaly let the man rest in peace....you might feel a bit different....but we can all dream, cant we
 

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