The "Newly Introduced Car That I'm Really Feeling Right Now" Thread....

[DeeezNuuuts83]

Well here's the thing. When a car's pricetag is above $70k, if you wanted to "show off," then more than likely you'd be looking into a Mercedes AMG, BMW M or something of the sort, whereas the guy who spends that money on a Nissan (the GT-R in particular) is probably more serious about performance versus trying to impress your neighbors.

 

[Duke]

The guy that buys the GT-R at least has no arrogance issues concerning status or style. Y'know, the whole Infiniti/Lexus bullshit, with poncy Americans not wanting to drive a Nissan or a Toyota.


For the new GT-R, what I'm most interested in is how easy (or hard) it will be to drive seriously. The old GT-R really did need an experienced hand to get the best out of it, I kinda hope they didn't soften up the new machine too much.

 

[dillaxx]

The guy that buys the GT-R at least has no arrogance issues concerning status or style. Y'know, the whole Infiniti/Lexus bullshit, with poncy Americans not wanting to drive a Nissan or a Toyota.


For the new GT-R, what I'm most interested in is how easy (or hard) it will be to drive seriously. The old GT-R really did need an experienced hand to get the best out of it, I kinda hope they didn't soften up the new machine too much.

thats what i've been trying to say... the less arrogant one will buy the gt-r since it wont have the status of a lambo or ferrari, atleast not price wise... for performance, yeah it'll compete with them and for 930,000 less than a veyron...

the thing is, i dont think people buy veyrons to race them so much as to just show them off in their garage... because even driving that thing is gonna be difficult with its power...

 

[DeeezNuuuts83]

For the new GT-R, what I'm most interested in is how easy (or hard) it will be to drive seriously. The old GT-R really did need an experienced hand to get the best out of it, I kinda hope they didn't soften up the new machine too much.

I think that compared to its competitors, it should be an easy car to pilot around in a serious way. Obviously, with it being a decent-sized motor (3.8-liter V-6) with twin-turbos, its throttle response should be pretty good and power should be generated pretty easily, so you won't always have to drop down a couple gears like in some higher-revving naturally aspirated cars to pick up speed (unless you're going the speed limit in top gear and want to suddenly pass the next ten cars ahead of you). The AWD system should make even the inexperienced look like heroes. Not to say that it's going to be a breeze to drive, but I bet it'll be far easier to drive than some other fast cars around a track, like certain Porsches (the RWD GT2 and GT3 come to mind) that have odd characteristics that come out when pushed closer to its limits.

Interestingly enough, I haven't heard anything about its AWD system, as all I ever hear are rumored (not even official) engine specs, rumored prices and targeted Nurburgring times. No info on the ATTESA-AWD system or anything.

 

[Duke]

I think that compared to its competitors, it should be an easy car to pilot around in a serious way. Obviously, with it being a decent-sized motor (3.8-liter V-6) with twin-turbos, its throttle response should be pretty good and power should be generated pretty easily, so you won't always have to drop down a couple gears like in some higher-revving naturally aspirated cars to pick up speed (unless you're going the speed limit in top gear and want to suddenly pass the next ten cars ahead of you). The AWD system should make even the inexperienced look like heroes. Not to say that it's going to be a breeze to drive, but I bet it'll be far easier to drive than some other fast cars around a track, like certain Porsches (the RWD GT2 and GT3 come to mind) that have odd characteristics that come out when pushed closer to its limits.

Interestingly enough, I haven't heard anything about its AWD system, as all I ever hear are rumored (not even official) engine specs, rumored prices and targeted Nurburgring times. No info on the ATTESA-AWD system or anything.

Yeah, that is weird. You'd think they'd make a big humdrum about the AWD system, but nothing. I do think it's confirmed super HICAS is still there, but whether they got a new AWD system or kept ATESSA, I dunno. Maybe, because ATESSA was very finetuned for the 32/33/34 and it's odd weight distribution, it turned out it couldn't simply be carried over and either had to be chucked out or modified. I dunno. Time will tell I suppose.

 

[dillaxx]

sometimes it's fun to go to nissan's japan site and see the different cars they have there... really interesting that the infiniti m45 isnt really a rebadged version of a nissan over here in the states.... but japan has a name for it there in nissan

 

[DeeezNuuuts83]

^ Same thing with Acura and Lexus... though Toyota has decided to start using the Lexus nameplate in other countries other than the U.S.

 

[dillaxx]

yeah but save for the lx and es there really is nothing that looks exactly the same as the us lexus... actually... i'll go and check that ...


America's answer the M5 and E 55?

http://jalopnik.com/cars/new-cars/2009-cadillac-cts+v-305315.php

CTS-V....

 

[DeeezNuuuts83]

^ Hmm... even with their changes to the rear end suspension bits, traction will definitely be an issue if it's a blown V-8 that big.

 

[dillaxx]

i doubt an american v8 could compare to a fine tuned german v10 of the M5's and 6's.... now which audi would fall into this category as well, the RS4 or the RS6? or the S6 since the RS is a wagon?

 

[dillaxx]

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/10/02/indulge-your-germanic-car-lust-now-prices-expect-to-rise/


hahaha, oh no.. now i cant buy my AMG 65

 

[DeeezNuuuts83]

^ Yes you can, it'll just be a little more expensive. But people who can already afford to buy that stuff won't be phased by such a price increase anyway.

 

[dillaxx]

deez, how come you never venture out of the auto section?? you should visit our block sometime....

 

[DeeezNuuuts83]

I post on a lot of various message forums pertaining to different interests of mine, so I don't always have time to check out every single section of every single board, especially since I am a mod of a few different message boards.

 

[SiGh]

What other forums do you visit? And which one of those are you mods in?

 

[DeeezNuuuts83]

Obviously my involvement varies, but off the top of my head, evolutionm, idforums, RX8club, stangnet, cobbforums, clubwrx, srtforums, probably more

 

[dillaxx]

any idea when BMW revamps their 5 series?? i thinks its been 3 years with the current design right? should be soon... i hope they make it a little more aggressive from the back... sounds kinda weird.. but its gotta look better...

reason i ask is because i just read there was the diesel version coming to the US as well...got me thinking when they'd switch it up a bit

 

[DeeezNuuuts83]

BMW tends to keep their designs for a while. Just remember that the previous 5-Series came out for the 1997 model year and lasted for quite a while, so the current one will serve us for at least another three or four years.

Also, BMW typically introduces new engines (non-M, of course) whenever they want and not necessarily at the same time as the introduction of a new model. This applies to a few off the top of my head, like the 3.0-liter from the most recent 330i and 530i, the twin-turbo 3.0-liter and a couple other engines in the past.

 

[dillaxx]

^^ despite the uncertainty of both a new engine or a new design, do you think investing in a 550i, if you're in the market for a luxury mid-size sedan, is a good one?

 

[DeeezNuuuts83]

^ Well what makes me unsure about my answer to your question is the fact that you call it "investing," which makes me unclear as to what your concerns are. Obviously all of these apply, but are you most worried about such an "investment" in terms of getting your money's worth? Or depreciation? Or hoping that the engine or body style won't become outdated too soon with the arrival of something newer?

Regardless, it's a nice car, as nothing is wrong with it, and I doubt anyone who buys it is ever unhappy. But I'd much rather buy the Mercedes E550 if I were looking for something around that price range and with those dimensions. Even though the design is four or five years old, it still looks very nice, and the recent facelift really gave it some spice.