Stupid People

Preach

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#1
My PS3 stopped reading discs about a year ago. I kept using it because it still reads my USB pen and anything that's already on it. Today I decided I'm gonna have it fixed, so before phoning the place I bought it from I looked around online to see if it was a common problem (which it was).

So I stumble across people typing something like this:

"I've had my 80 GB PS3 for almsot 2 years now and it recently stopped reading discs, let alone even spinning them. Now it won't even sign me into Playstation Network...If I had known PS3 was this glitchy and cheap I would have stuck with my 360 wich NEVER gave me problems like this whatsoever...I turn my system on and before it even signs me in it gives me the bullshit error message. Now I have to spend $150 to send it into Sony, who doesn't give a s hit what happens to their faulty consoles. My Internet browser works fine on my PS3 so I know it's not my connection."

This person seems to think that since his one Xbox 360 out of several million didn't go bad on him, and his one Playstation out of several million did, that he would have been better off sticking with it. Like, he thinks it's the fact that he made the change that caused problems for him. What a stupid fucking moron with no sense of perspective. It really pissed me off that he was so dumb and I wanted to scream in his face. Then he uses his anger to paint a picture of a non-caring Sony, and how does he do it? By listing the standard routine procedure for having any faulty console repaired, be it Sony's, Microsoft's or Sega's. You send it, and sending big shit through mail costs money, and no corporation gives a flying fuck about a single customer's device. Spot on with all accusations. What a wonderfully retarded consumer that should die in many fires.
 

Bobby Sands

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#3
That sucks that it stopped reading discs. I know a few people that have had problems with their PS3. And then there is the RROD of death with the Xbox 360 although that seems to have been sorted out with consoles manufactured in the last 2 years or so. I hope it doesnt happen mine.

Out of curiousityHow did you position your PS3? is it possible to stand it upright? because if you have your xbox 360 standing upright like you saw alot when it was first released, the discs can get damaged and the drive can break as far as i know.
 

masta247

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#5
because if you have your xbox 360 standing upright like you saw alot when it was first released, the discs can get damaged and the drive can break as far as i know.
It was the case with first generation of Xbox360's and first DVD drives (Samsung if I remember correctly). The system itself was okay for both - horizontal and vertical placement but not the drive itself lol.
I think it doesn't happen anymore.
 

kastro

Active Member
#10
i personally enjoy ps3 better then 360 and both have its fault but i havent come across any haha,...and yeh there are stupid az fucks online with comments like that and theres even more worse bashing of the console over stupid things to
 

ARon

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#11
masta247 said:
Like even if you were in those 15% Microsoft will still send you a new console in less than a week because their service is almost perfect after all the issues they had.
Wasn't there just a survey released that said the failure rate is above 50%?
 

masta247

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#13
Personally if I had to care for every negative opinion I wouldn't buy any hardware and that's because some guys are really stupid. That's why people are afraid to buy a new console because they are scared of RROD. Like even if you were in those 15% Microsoft will still send you a new console in less than a week because their service is almost perfect after all the issues they had.

Some things statistically are more faulty than others but still if you buy them in at least 80% cases nothing bad will happen unless it's really a piece of shit no-name thing made in China.
Sure people should bash companies like Acer or Toshiba when almost every unit of a few of their models were faulty, their service was shitty and people had to wait 3-4 months to get their stuff back with a notice that it will not be repaired because of something (like 'it's your fault, go fix it yourself').
After that Acer and Toshiba really improved their service.
 

masta247

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#14
Wasn't there just a survey released that said the failure rate is above 50%?
Nah it was a propaganda with statistics from first xbox360 consoles that came out till 2005. Since first xbox consoles really had a huge failure rate (up to 12% RROD) consider that they are almost 5 years old now and it's nothing strange that something someday will fail. Since a lot of people bought their consoles back then they seriously make the statistics look bad for Microsoft.

This will be probably really interesting for everybody thinking that xbox360's tend to be faulty:

Fortunately, SquareTrade found that Xbox 360 quality has improved dramatically since the third quarter of 2008, shortly before the 65nm CPU/GPU "Jasper" model was introduced. Since then, first-year failure rates have plummeted to below the 4 percent the company projected. Looking at 500 units purchased in 2009, SquareTrade found that less than 1 percent had suffered the Red Ring of Death.
Xbox 360 failure rate 23.7%, PS3 10%, Wii 2.7% - Study - News at GameSpot

Also, bare in mind that in almost half cases Xboxes fail because people keep them in places where they can easily overheat like under their TV's where they have no ventilation.
Some people even partially block ventilation slots/holes/whatever.

In short xbox360 right now is statistically more reliable than PS3.
 

ARon

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#15
masta, man

I don't even know how to even respond to your 360 is more reliable than ps3 comment. Yes I know the newer ones don't fail as much but really that doesn't matter cus until you find numbers comparing the new 360 and ps3 consoles, namely the slim, then that less than 1 percent statistic is irrelevant. Especially when hardly any of those are what are being played cus most peeps have had there 360 for quite a while.

But I will respond to your Squaretrade one. I don't think you can really use Squaretrade as a good source becasue basically they are a company that will sell warranty that covers items bought on line. There statistics only cover the first year, not even the first year it is acutally the first 6-10 months after the warranty purchase. Microsoft itself offers an extended warranty of over a year just for the RROD problem so to use Squaretrade statistics of the first 6-10 months of the purchse date isn't too smart. I think the better source to use is the consumer, the people who buy the 360 from any and everywhere. So when Game Informer does a survey on their readers, the consumer, it is a better source to use I would think. They say the failure rate is 54%, over half. Squaretrade says 23%, EB Games says it is 1 in 3 consoles sold, Best Buy has come out and said pretty much the same thing. I guess we could use an average and roughly agree on the 1 in 3 number. All I know is the 360 is fucked up, the shit breaks but whatever, people dont care and they have fun playing it, cool. Microsoft needs to man up and come out with some legit numbers cus this does interest people. Microsoft responded to the Game Informer survey and didnt say the 54% was wrong either.

And yes I used google to find all that info out lol

Also, bare in mind that the same problem of the stupid consumer not properly ventilating the console can happen to all consoles not just the 360.
 

Casey

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Staff member
#16
Fuck stupid people. Fuck them in their stupid assholes.

For the record I'd sooner buy a 360 than a PS3, but besides that, I know about the same amount of people with 360's as PS3's, and the PS3 owners complain a lot more and appear to have had more problems with their consoles. I don't know anything about what goes wrong with them or what percentage of units of what generation and what year etc etc etc etc, I'm just throwing my 2 cents in from an outsider perspective.
 

ARon

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#18
Of course the PS3 can fail lol. I know one friend who had it happen, it happened to me with the PS2, no problems with the ps3 so far, knock knock. As a whole I think you have to admit there is a bigger problem with the 360 than the ps3, thats not to bash the console either, just a fact(sorta)

Yo yoooo, I just got done reading this. pretty damn good read regarding the 360, check it out. Me thinks the guy is slightly slightly biased but its good.
 

ARon

Well-Known Member
#20
^Not resolved but a very good fix. The Jasper 360 is good stuff. It still happens but far less likely than before. This is why masta was saying the 360 is more reliable but he doenst have the information to back that up so whatev
 

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