People claiming benefits that don't need it
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It doesn't have to be uni it could be anything. A lot of people in this country waste their potential. If you want to be living a better life than your living know, than there are plenty of opportunities to elevate and improve you standard of living. Education is one, free in a lot of cases, way to do that. There are people out there who have parents that work in low paid jobs. Instead of using the potential they have and the resources available to go into a better paid job, they just do what there parents did or a similar low paid job. And then they complain about it. That makes absolutely no sense what so ever. Unless they want to live in a low paid emplyment bracket (which is fair enough, but they shouldn't complain) or have extreme difficulties in their lives, then they can make something of themselves. If they don't, than they could be considered a waste of potential.
As covered by beReal after your post, those that claim benefits illegally take away money from education, health, other Government funds and make the rest of us (potentially) pay higher taxes. And you can make a change by discouraging benefit fraud.
There are a number of things about this though. The other 3 in 4 would probably be in higher paid jobs than if they didnt have a degree. This would also mean there is a greater chance of them earning £30K + which is a higher tax band. This way, by getting more people into higher education, they pay more tax in the long run.
Also, a big reason why these people aren't employed, in my opinion (and I think you touched on this after you posted the above), is that there are a lot of bullshit degrees out there. Eg: Farming, textiles, History of Arts, Horticulture, etc WTF?!? These sorts of degrees are useless in my view, because theyre the sort of subject areas where experience would be more important and/or there is little or no market. In this case these people would not be able to earn a high wage after graduating but STILL would have claimed a student loan. Wasted money in my view.
Like you say it depends what companies you go for. The idea is that instead of a company hiring someone who knows nothing and giving them experience fo a number of years (costing them £100 000's) they can hire a graudate who shows the required skills and aptitude to be put higher up the ladder. Having a degree or whatever shows you've had formal tutoring up to a certain level, its like an indication of how good the applicant is. Like you get accountants and chartered accountants, you get Doctors and Specialists. The latter of each has had formal tuition and experience (and a piece of paper) which says they are up to a certain grade. I could say to an employer "I used to be an air pilot and have the technical skills to make the matrix and my next door neighbour can back me up" but that doesnt mean a thing. But if I have a University/Government agency/Standards body backing me up it shows in the real deal.
As covered by beReal after your post, those that claim benefits illegally take away money from education, health, other Government funds and make the rest of us (potentially) pay higher taxes. And you can make a change by discouraging benefit fraud.
There are a number of things about this though. The other 3 in 4 would probably be in higher paid jobs than if they didnt have a degree. This would also mean there is a greater chance of them earning £30K + which is a higher tax band. This way, by getting more people into higher education, they pay more tax in the long run.
Also, a big reason why these people aren't employed, in my opinion (and I think you touched on this after you posted the above), is that there are a lot of bullshit degrees out there. Eg: Farming, textiles, History of Arts, Horticulture, etc WTF?!? These sorts of degrees are useless in my view, because theyre the sort of subject areas where experience would be more important and/or there is little or no market. In this case these people would not be able to earn a high wage after graduating but STILL would have claimed a student loan. Wasted money in my view.
Like you say it depends what companies you go for. The idea is that instead of a company hiring someone who knows nothing and giving them experience fo a number of years (costing them £100 000's) they can hire a graudate who shows the required skills and aptitude to be put higher up the ladder. Having a degree or whatever shows you've had formal tutoring up to a certain level, its like an indication of how good the applicant is. Like you get accountants and chartered accountants, you get Doctors and Specialists. The latter of each has had formal tuition and experience (and a piece of paper) which says they are up to a certain grade. I could say to an employer "I used to be an air pilot and have the technical skills to make the matrix and my next door neighbour can back me up" but that doesnt mean a thing. But if I have a University/Government agency/Standards body backing me up it shows in the real deal.
i know that really sucks.
its take my work for example - we have polish drivers who work fine i don'ty haave a problem with that but one of them has been given a 4 bedroom council house!!!! WTF?! he has no wife and no kids so why the fuck should he get this????
yeah sure what do you need advice about? i will try to help
its take my work for example - we have polish drivers who work fine i don'ty haave a problem with that but one of them has been given a 4 bedroom council house!!!! WTF?! he has no wife and no kids so why the fuck should he get this????
yeah sure what do you need advice about? i will try to help
Being in a council house doesn't automatically he gets everything payed for him. Its just a "lower grade" of housing for those who cant afford a mortgage or would rather rent than buy. I wouldn't say there's anything worng with it, I grew up in some of the worst council estates in Manchester. You still have to pay rent to the council and council tax, which for a 4 bedroom house, is going to be expensive. The only way you'd pay nothing is if you were on benefits, which would occur if the guys working.
excuse my ignorance in this thread all that time ago, looks like i fell into the propaganda surround illegal immigrants, matter of fact I knew fuck all back then and was probably repeating something out of a newspaper or off some other ignorant, it's amazing what you learn when you do nothing but read when you have your 'time out' from the working environment, so glad I went down the path I did even tho its been a shit last few years, but if I didn't go this way I would still prob be thinking illegals get all this stuff and prob be joining in with the recent benefit scrounger mentality whats been drilled into the uneducated thinking people on benefits are a big part of the problem with the recession and all that, blaming foreigners for taking jobs etc, the stigmitization of the disabled , all the talking down of the NHS when the reason it's having problems is because the staff are over worked, its all bullshit propaganda to keep people at each other while the cunts in charge rob us blind.. transference of wealth, public money to private pockets, triple dip recession? triple dip fucking robbery! and don't get me started on the war on drugs lol
just thought Id bump this for educational reasons lol
just thought Id bump this for educational reasons lol
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