Depression

Pittsey

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#21
By Pres, I meant President. I was trying to say it in a cool (American) way. But now I feel that it looks like I spelt press wrong. With my insecurities, that bothers me. So here is my post telling you it was fine.
 

Pittsey

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#24

Pittsey

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#26
in the process of it. the quote is pretty much on page 1.

pitts, it's 1984.
Funny you mention that book. I have never read it. It was on other school's reading lists, but not on mine so I didn't bother. I was talking about it the other day. As a local school has decided to change the way they sell school dinners. They no longer accept physical cash. You setup an account and use your biometrics to pay for it. So every student will have his fingerprints stored....! I was telling one of the kids how it was an infringement of his basic rights, and how he should refuse... lol... I told him to read 1984.
 

dilla

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#31
Cool, you're officially 12
I read animal farm for my English 1 Honors class over the summer before high school. Never had to read 1984, I don't think. Also, I never read The Catcher in the Rye, while other English classes in my high school did. I just managed to dance around it by switching classes.

I read Catcher last summer and teared up to how much the main character and I related, in terms off attitude and life situations. 1984 I read for leisure during college but never finished it. Might have to do that soon.
 

Pittsey

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#32
Catcher In The Rye is on my reading list too. I missed so many good books. I read tons from ages 7-12. But then I probably didn't read any books completely from 12 - 25. Even for class. I read when we were told to in class. But if we had to read a chapter or 2 at home, I didn't bother. What a fucking loser....
 

S O F I

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#33
i didn't read books for leisure until about two years ago. i wish i had but no one encouraged me to and you can't expect to pick up reading as a hobby on your own when there are playstations out there.
 

Pittsey

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#34
i didn't read books for leisure until about two years ago. i wish i had but no one encouraged me to and you can't expect to pick up reading as a hobby on your own when there are playstations out there.
lol

Fair point.

I limit the Playstation and Xbox with my son. He can play when I am watching sport... only... Kind of hypocritical, as I hated it when my mates mum did it with him when I was round his house. But... I am trying to nurture his natural intelligence.
 

vg4030

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#35
I limit the Playstation and Xbox with my son. He can play when I am watching sport... only... Kind of hypocritical, as I hated it when my mates mum did it with him when I was round his house. But... I am trying to nurture his natural intelligence.
I honestly think I have become more retarded from playing COD so much. My Kill/Death ratio has plummeted :(
 

Casey

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#36
Holden Caulfield is my hero. The world is full of fucking phonies, and you can't catch everyone who falls of the cliff edge.
 

dilla

Trumpfan17 aka Coonie aka Dilla aka Tennis Dog
#37
Holden Caulfield is my hero. The world is full of fucking phonies, and you can't catch everyone who falls of the cliff edge.
The dude lived such an awesome life. He did that short timeframe of the story what most do during their entire 20s.
 

Ristol

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#38
Holden Caulfield is my hero. The world is full of fucking phonies, and you can't catch everyone who falls of the cliff edge.
Right on. I like that interpretation of the book and I used to share it. Then I read something that changed my view of the whole novel. Somebody wrote: it's about grief. The whole book is Holden trying and failing to cope with his brother's death. Reading it through that lens was an eye-opener for me. But any way you read it, it's amazing.

I so subscribe to that theory now that I recently wrote an inscription on my copy of the novel (bought at Penn Station for 4 dollars when I was 12) to my daughter, when she gets old enough: You will hear a lot of things about this book. It is a wonderful book, and it means something different to everybody. The way I've come to see it, everything Holden does is a direct response to the overwhelming grief he feels for his brother. He is neither crazy nor rebelling. He is mourning. If you read it that way, I think you'll get more out of it.
 

Pittsey

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#39
I like that Ristol.... I am going to have to find a physical copy of it and do the same for my son.

I read it this week actually, and what I took from the book was that I think he was the only sane person he encoutered. I think he had an enlightement that others didn't. He was the only one who wanted more from life than the restrictions that the capitalism model brings. Maybe Salinger was a socailist?
 

Jokerman

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#40
It's important to understand that Holden isn't necessarily right about the world and it's phoniness, and Salinger didn't mean him to be. He wanted to show what it's like to be at that transitional age and the doubts most of us experience then. Holden is an extreme version of that. Holden is scared of becoming part of the "phony" adult world. What intelligent teen hasn't felt that at some point? But there's also some phoniness in him too, as there is in all of us. Yes, he's grieving his brother, but more importantly, he's grieving his loss, and ours, of a childhood innocence that we all go through. This is what makes the book so universal.
 

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