Creating Hip-Hop fast food joint: (your ideas)
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Well preach I read all you had to say. I must say though... Reality of life is expressed into Art, and Art is expressed in Reality of life. Doesn't get more Hip-Hop than that fact. I should be able to paint the perfect picture of real life in how it is and in how we talk in the hip-hop/rap culture all in the business setting in this day and age. When we see ourselves in the mirror, we shouldnt try to run from the image we see that we make/cause. No, we should embrace the image with the good and the bad. And that's what keepin it real is all about. It's when we brace both perfections and imperfections, and say we're just being ourselves as humans with a culture.
Hip-Hop/Rap from long ago was different than how it is now. And that's a good thing because that means it's expanding/growing. Now Hip-Hop can be so entertaining and dance with any stereotypes. Oh Hip Hop is about being a wanna-be thug etc. Ppl who hold that opinion will always hold that opinion so why not have a field day with them in like reverse phsychology and make em think exactly what they would think anyway.
Hip-Hop has the raw 'tell how it is' expressiveness of the African American culture in it.
The only example I want ppl to get is that freedom of sheech should stand alive and well somewhere, especially in a Hip-Hop fast food joint chain. This joint chain is going to put freedom of speech on the map where it should have been. That's even if it takes using so-called profanity. Government cant regulate the words said, FCC cant regulate it.
Certain ppl come to websites and all sorts of things get said, even sorts of stereotypes, yet I dont see them ppl abstaining from sites because of it. No, they might express back with freedom of speech. Freedom of expression/speech is beautiful, isnt it?
A Hip-Hop theme fast food chain should be taken serious about its food, but not serious about its entertainment. You come get to the door it should say: Explicid language. That way the joint wont get someone playing bumb like they cant believe the language being used and the names of food/meals.
It's time we allow other ppl to say the words we say and talk how we talk if they are willing to learn other cultures period without having a problem with it. PPl who wont accept reality FOR HOW IT IS are living in fantasies. They should just stay in and never come out.
Hip-Hop/Rap from long ago was different than how it is now. And that's a good thing because that means it's expanding/growing. Now Hip-Hop can be so entertaining and dance with any stereotypes. Oh Hip Hop is about being a wanna-be thug etc. Ppl who hold that opinion will always hold that opinion so why not have a field day with them in like reverse phsychology and make em think exactly what they would think anyway.
Hip-Hop has the raw 'tell how it is' expressiveness of the African American culture in it.
The only example I want ppl to get is that freedom of sheech should stand alive and well somewhere, especially in a Hip-Hop fast food joint chain. This joint chain is going to put freedom of speech on the map where it should have been. That's even if it takes using so-called profanity. Government cant regulate the words said, FCC cant regulate it.
Certain ppl come to websites and all sorts of things get said, even sorts of stereotypes, yet I dont see them ppl abstaining from sites because of it. No, they might express back with freedom of speech. Freedom of expression/speech is beautiful, isnt it?
A Hip-Hop theme fast food chain should be taken serious about its food, but not serious about its entertainment. You come get to the door it should say: Explicid language. That way the joint wont get someone playing bumb like they cant believe the language being used and the names of food/meals.
It's time we allow other ppl to say the words we say and talk how we talk if they are willing to learn other cultures period without having a problem with it. PPl who wont accept reality FOR HOW IT IS are living in fantasies. They should just stay in and never come out.
Tell Bill O Reilly I said fuck him. Cant let ppl with that mindframe prevent Hip-Hop from expanding in any way, shape, or form. Besides, why dont Bill O Reilly say anything anti- movies? He got a problem with understanding what art and entertainment is and the conditions in real life that have a hand in creating that art and entertainment.
Ppl are starving and need jobs. This joint chain would provide food and jobs. That's the clearly good part.
Ppl are starving and need jobs. This joint chain would provide food and jobs. That's the clearly good part.
If I buy a patch of land, I can't legalize child pornography on my patch of land. I still fall under the laws of whatever country I buy that patch of land in. Sexual harassment and general harassment are both dependent on the point of view. I can say "Hey motherfucker" and you may take it as a joke or something funny that I said. Someone else might take offense to it. Lawsuit anyone? You do live in America lol. You don't think your chain would be sued left to right? C. Delores Tucker wouldn't be amused.
You have a big misconception. You see, even Tupac was a hypocrite. And that comes from one of the few "active" Tupac fans left on this site. Tupac would talk about gang violence, and when asked about it, he would say that he just painted a real picture of what's going on in the streets, in a young black male's life, every day. Sure, that sounds noble, but Tupac was very mistaken. You have to understand that intentions are almost always misunderstood. You open this chain with all these negative things that I guarantee you would become points for criticism, saying it's genuinely based on the real life of a person living in the hip-hop culture. Not only are you demeaning anyone who isn't black or doesn't live the "geto" lifestyle. I would not feel comfortable in the resturant you described. So you are saying that hiphop is for black people, or for a certain type of people.
Anyway, back to Tupac, what Tupac failed to realize is that all his fans didn't listen to the stories in his songs, think "okay so that's what it's like for a thug" and then go about their non-thuggish ways. People of all sizes and variations instead tried to replicate that lifestyle. See, Tupac didn't just paint a picture of the streets, he glorified them. He himself denied this, but he was wrong. He wrote a song about his gun, where he talks about taking it with him to go kill people. He loved brawls, and would start shit when he could. His Outlawz crew were a bunch of ruthless little kiddos. I remember one recollection of Kadafi taking a literal piss on the audience during a concert, from the stage. They were not your typical kind of good people. Tupac wanted to be a good person, but his confused self didn't allow him to.
Now you similarly fail to see what you are proposing. Let's forget YOUR idea, and discuss the idea in its ideal state - that you had a multimillionaire sponsor behind you and you were really doing this big time. Do you think you would improve, or otherwise bring anything positive to hiphop in the long run? I have told you why I think not - You would split the hiphop fans even furtherer by defining a standard, even if it's just a stereotype. Furthermore, with ongoing use of profanity you are not replicating reality, you are making sure profanity stays a part of reality for the time to come.
Edit: To what you said above, a natural part of life is struggling against everything you find "morally wrong" until you realize certain battles can't be won. You can't silence people who speak out against profanity, because there is not one good argument for why people should use profanity. We do it, but compare that to a world where we don't use profanity at all, and the latter would be the more positive world to live in. Right?
By doing what you are doing you are not thinking in new ways. You are not trying to evolve anything. You are doing what most hiphop artists have been doing for years - the same old shit that is the very reason why hiphop has a bad public image to begin with. You can do that of course, but most people so far seem to have disagreed with your profanity policy so far in the thread. Take the hint lol? Maybe, just MAYBE you're that guy with that crazy idea that no one thought would work that turns out a success, but in this case I think you're quite the opposite. The world is trying to rid itself of profanity, not give it more freedom. Profanity, like I said earlier, is pointless anyway. You just don't like the idea of having to watch what you say, maybe. Lastly, I just want to say that a profanity-free hiphop fast food chain would also provide the same amount of jobs. Whatever good argument you can come with for this business idea, is also very achievable even though you don't use profanity as a marketing strategy. I'm for most of what you say, I'm just telling you that straight up, if you do the profanity thing you're probably gonna waste a lot of money and time on a project that is doomed to fail.
You have a big misconception. You see, even Tupac was a hypocrite. And that comes from one of the few "active" Tupac fans left on this site. Tupac would talk about gang violence, and when asked about it, he would say that he just painted a real picture of what's going on in the streets, in a young black male's life, every day. Sure, that sounds noble, but Tupac was very mistaken. You have to understand that intentions are almost always misunderstood. You open this chain with all these negative things that I guarantee you would become points for criticism, saying it's genuinely based on the real life of a person living in the hip-hop culture. Not only are you demeaning anyone who isn't black or doesn't live the "geto" lifestyle. I would not feel comfortable in the resturant you described. So you are saying that hiphop is for black people, or for a certain type of people.
Anyway, back to Tupac, what Tupac failed to realize is that all his fans didn't listen to the stories in his songs, think "okay so that's what it's like for a thug" and then go about their non-thuggish ways. People of all sizes and variations instead tried to replicate that lifestyle. See, Tupac didn't just paint a picture of the streets, he glorified them. He himself denied this, but he was wrong. He wrote a song about his gun, where he talks about taking it with him to go kill people. He loved brawls, and would start shit when he could. His Outlawz crew were a bunch of ruthless little kiddos. I remember one recollection of Kadafi taking a literal piss on the audience during a concert, from the stage. They were not your typical kind of good people. Tupac wanted to be a good person, but his confused self didn't allow him to.
Now you similarly fail to see what you are proposing. Let's forget YOUR idea, and discuss the idea in its ideal state - that you had a multimillionaire sponsor behind you and you were really doing this big time. Do you think you would improve, or otherwise bring anything positive to hiphop in the long run? I have told you why I think not - You would split the hiphop fans even furtherer by defining a standard, even if it's just a stereotype. Furthermore, with ongoing use of profanity you are not replicating reality, you are making sure profanity stays a part of reality for the time to come.
Edit: To what you said above, a natural part of life is struggling against everything you find "morally wrong" until you realize certain battles can't be won. You can't silence people who speak out against profanity, because there is not one good argument for why people should use profanity. We do it, but compare that to a world where we don't use profanity at all, and the latter would be the more positive world to live in. Right?
By doing what you are doing you are not thinking in new ways. You are not trying to evolve anything. You are doing what most hiphop artists have been doing for years - the same old shit that is the very reason why hiphop has a bad public image to begin with. You can do that of course, but most people so far seem to have disagreed with your profanity policy so far in the thread. Take the hint lol? Maybe, just MAYBE you're that guy with that crazy idea that no one thought would work that turns out a success, but in this case I think you're quite the opposite. The world is trying to rid itself of profanity, not give it more freedom. Profanity, like I said earlier, is pointless anyway. You just don't like the idea of having to watch what you say, maybe. Lastly, I just want to say that a profanity-free hiphop fast food chain would also provide the same amount of jobs. Whatever good argument you can come with for this business idea, is also very achievable even though you don't use profanity as a marketing strategy. I'm for most of what you say, I'm just telling you that straight up, if you do the profanity thing you're probably gonna waste a lot of money and time on a project that is doomed to fail.
What mindframe? The mindframe that saying negative things to other people is negative, and thus shouldn't be done?
Again, he is not against the evolution of hiphop, just the evolution of profanity. Continuous use ensures continuous evolution. And if hiphop needs profanity to evolve, you have not only misunderstood what hiphop is about, you are simply put wrong. It does not.
Again, he is not against the evolution of hiphop, just the evolution of profanity. Continuous use ensures continuous evolution. And if hiphop needs profanity to evolve, you have not only misunderstood what hiphop is about, you are simply put wrong. It does not.
I want to quote one more thing you said. I think I've overly made my point now, but I still want to make another. In this quote of yours, where does profanity fit in? What on God's earth does profanity have to do with art, life or hiphop? Because it simply, by chance, is a part of life? Do we want it to be a part of life? Why, in that case? The idea here is that you can't endorse something and still try to get rid of it, you have to take a stance. If you take the stance you seem to already have taken, you are going against the grain big-time. Why? What are you proving? That profanity is good, or needed? Wrong on both counts.
See, my overall point with all this is I just don't think you've thought about this from this point of view at all, and you can't launch a business idea if you're not thorough. I think that you (or your mind, through you) is making up excuses so as to not have to come to grips with the fact that your reasons for using profanity, and your arguments with respect to your use of profanity, are not valid. I have yet to see one good reason why profanity should be accepted, except for the free speech argument. But you still have free speech; free speech does not mean you have the freedom to use every word in the dictionary, it means you have the right to express your view without being punished for it. I think that our King is old and ugly, but if I choose to express that opinion with the sentence "King Nigger Fuck Staff Cunt", that's my choice. That's got nothing to do with freedom of speech. I could have more easily, and in a more civil manner conveyed my thoughts by just saying "I think our King is old and ugly", but when I feel the need to use a word that I know certain people have a problem with, and choose to use it nevertheless, I am being disrespectful. Using profanity is not a basic human need, it is an option we choose.
See, my overall point with all this is I just don't think you've thought about this from this point of view at all, and you can't launch a business idea if you're not thorough. I think that you (or your mind, through you) is making up excuses so as to not have to come to grips with the fact that your reasons for using profanity, and your arguments with respect to your use of profanity, are not valid. I have yet to see one good reason why profanity should be accepted, except for the free speech argument. But you still have free speech; free speech does not mean you have the freedom to use every word in the dictionary, it means you have the right to express your view without being punished for it. I think that our King is old and ugly, but if I choose to express that opinion with the sentence "King Nigger Fuck Staff Cunt", that's my choice. That's got nothing to do with freedom of speech. I could have more easily, and in a more civil manner conveyed my thoughts by just saying "I think our King is old and ugly", but when I feel the need to use a word that I know certain people have a problem with, and choose to use it nevertheless, I am being disrespectful. Using profanity is not a basic human need, it is an option we choose.
I think profanity is the lesser problem in his idea. Illuminattile elaborately pointed out the more serious ones.
I laughed at the idea first but then I was distraught that somebody would actually want to do something like this.
It's with things like this that you get to see how a person truly views hip hop.
I laughed at the idea first but then I was distraught that somebody would actually want to do something like this.
It's with things like this that you get to see how a person truly views hip hop.
I remember when Pac said something as though he were in someone else's shoes saying "They're going against society. The music is violent. Ban 2pac. Ban the outlaw immortals." I cant recall the name of the track at the moment, but I realize there will be ppl who hate Hip-Hop all together, even though it's making ppl money so that they can have a decent life they wouldnt have had if they went the street route. It's better to make money
C. Delores Tucker cant stop ppl from liking Hip Hop who already like it and know what good and bad it involves. That kind of person can only speak to that same kind of person. That wouldnt hurt the business that's promoting free speech and exposing hypocrites who would dare be anti to this joint chain as the same ppl that go to the movies where there is all sorts of profanity, sex, and violence used to entertain.
Hip-Hop doesnt need profanity, but Hip-Hop needs both creativity and reality with freedom of expression. The reality part just happens to include profanity.
I wouldnt want customers thinking the joints arent really real because a spec of reality is missing from it. We shouldnt try to sugar coat life for anybody. Not even for kids. They supposed to learn to be adults in the real world where they are going to be exposed to all sorts of things they agree or disagree with or like or dislike.
Hip-Hop isnt just Hip-Hop, it's as a bridge or a gateway to other things going on in the real world. Its as a report on the world's society.
The day ppl in real life stop using so-called profanity will be the day anything Hip Hop stops using so-called profanity too.
The experience the joint chain would bring is a reflection of real life through art and entertainment.
The employees wouldnt be saying negative things to each other since it's all entertainment. They want the job they'll conform and obviously not have a problem as long as it's paying the bills for em and giving them work experiece.
C. Delores Tucker cant stop ppl from liking Hip Hop who already like it and know what good and bad it involves. That kind of person can only speak to that same kind of person. That wouldnt hurt the business that's promoting free speech and exposing hypocrites who would dare be anti to this joint chain as the same ppl that go to the movies where there is all sorts of profanity, sex, and violence used to entertain.
Hip-Hop doesnt need profanity, but Hip-Hop needs both creativity and reality with freedom of expression. The reality part just happens to include profanity.
I wouldnt want customers thinking the joints arent really real because a spec of reality is missing from it. We shouldnt try to sugar coat life for anybody. Not even for kids. They supposed to learn to be adults in the real world where they are going to be exposed to all sorts of things they agree or disagree with or like or dislike.
Hip-Hop isnt just Hip-Hop, it's as a bridge or a gateway to other things going on in the real world. Its as a report on the world's society.
The day ppl in real life stop using so-called profanity will be the day anything Hip Hop stops using so-called profanity too.
The experience the joint chain would bring is a reflection of real life through art and entertainment.
The employees wouldnt be saying negative things to each other since it's all entertainment. They want the job they'll conform and obviously not have a problem as long as it's paying the bills for em and giving them work experiece.
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And the description you gave is reality? Maybe for some people but what you described was really the exact stereotype of rappers that "outsiders" have. There's far more to Hip-Hop than just this stereotype of gangsta rap.
If you want a Hip-Hop flavored fast food joint you include the 4 elements of Hip-Hop and if you want to keep in line with reality you can adjust "normal" costumer-service etiquette (venacular, but not words like 'nigga' or 'hoe', clothing etc.) to be more in line with Hip-Hop culture and be more relaxed. And you incorporate different ages (old school, new school), different styles, different hypes etc. into the decoration.
You can have a pair of Adidas hanging on the wall and pictures of famous gold-toothed rappers but if your fast food uniform is: Adidas, a cornrow wig, fake gold teeth, a fake gun, a package of sugar in your pocket then you're not only respresenting just one single aspect of Hip-Hop, you're misrepresenting it.
If an all-white staff had put up this place they'd be labeled racist regardless of intent.
And the description you gave is reality? Maybe for some people but what you described was really the exact stereotype of rappers that "outsiders" have. There's far more to Hip-Hop than just this stereotype of gangsta rap.
If you want a Hip-Hop flavored fast food joint you include the 4 elements of Hip-Hop and if you want to keep in line with reality you can adjust "normal" costumer-service etiquette (venacular, but not words like 'nigga' or 'hoe', clothing etc.) to be more in line with Hip-Hop culture and be more relaxed. And you incorporate different ages (old school, new school), different styles, different hypes etc. into the decoration.
You can have a pair of Adidas hanging on the wall and pictures of famous gold-toothed rappers but if your fast food uniform is: Adidas, a cornrow wig, fake gold teeth, a fake gun, a package of sugar in your pocket then you're not only respresenting just one single aspect of Hip-Hop, you're misrepresenting it.
If an all-white staff had put up this place they'd be labeled racist regardless of intent.
Profanity and stereotypes are just in this world. Get used to it. Those things can be used in art and entertainment. Of course it's not a basic human need, but it is if you want something new and original to work/sell business wise. I wanna make it so profanity/stereotypes in art and entertainment is cool and not responsible for what you choose to say or do even if you just learned it. With learning comes responsibility.
If someone choose to say profanity just because someone else said it, then that's on them because no one is responsible for your choice expect you unless they had a gun to your head. Cant sue rappers just because someone said they were influenced by that rapper to say a certain word. Look at WWE...ppl other than professionals outiside it doing those moves are responsible for doing them, not the WWE.
They need to teach what art and entertainment is in school and teach what responsibility is because obviously they dont and got ppl who blame other for their choices or other's choices.
If someone choose to say profanity just because someone else said it, then that's on them because no one is responsible for your choice expect you unless they had a gun to your head. Cant sue rappers just because someone said they were influenced by that rapper to say a certain word. Look at WWE...ppl other than professionals outiside it doing those moves are responsible for doing them, not the WWE.
They need to teach what art and entertainment is in school and teach what responsibility is because obviously they dont and got ppl who blame other for their choices or other's choices.
Alright. If any one of you thinks my explicid version with profanity and stereotypes isnt going to sell, then you can make your own clean, non-profanity/non-stereotype version and I wont consider you robbing my idea specifically at least. My specific idea and ppl down for it VS your idea and ppl down for it. If we get to the oppurtunity where we can make it happen like sell the idea in this competitive world, then I bet you my specific idea would be preferred over ANY nice, clean, and dandy Hip Hop theme idea in a world where more and more ppl see to rebel against society's hypocrites.
I'd be crowned the Hip-Hop Theme fast food joint chain champ because of my overallness concerning Hip-Hop's deemed good aspects as well as Hip-Hop's deemed bad aspects.
Who will take the challenge to compete with me? Make another thread of your own and I bet you more will like mines than your's.
Like Pac said "We went from bothers and sisters to niggas and bitches". I'm just aiming to reflect/report that truth without sugar coating in a theme.
And also lets see who offers the best food and drink, etc. different from one another on the non-common stuff fast food places may have. Like fries...You could go with fries since its so common, but tatertots you cant cause I spefically included that as original into my idea. You get the drift or expect to pay me royalties if you make it into reality. :fury: Cause like the game song go "You wouldnt get far".
I'd be crowned the Hip-Hop Theme fast food joint chain champ because of my overallness concerning Hip-Hop's deemed good aspects as well as Hip-Hop's deemed bad aspects.
Who will take the challenge to compete with me? Make another thread of your own and I bet you more will like mines than your's.
Like Pac said "We went from bothers and sisters to niggas and bitches". I'm just aiming to reflect/report that truth without sugar coating in a theme.
And also lets see who offers the best food and drink, etc. different from one another on the non-common stuff fast food places may have. Like fries...You could go with fries since its so common, but tatertots you cant cause I spefically included that as original into my idea. You get the drift or expect to pay me royalties if you make it into reality. :fury: Cause like the game song go "You wouldnt get far".
I didn't say that, you're taking what I said into the extreme. The problem is not that you're reflecting truth, you're reflecting stereotypes and bullshit. Your place wouldn't represent Hip-Hop, it would represent the 15 year old kids that grew up on 50 Cent.
This is what your customer service would look like:
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Now if you're into that sort of thing, by all means go for it but I'd prefer a Hip-Hop flavored place to represent Hip-Hop in its entirety, not just ridiculous stereotype of 2008's gangsta rap.
And who cares if profanity is a part of life? It's not a part of Hip-Hop. It's not part of its ideology or culture. Rappers are people and people use profanity.
This is what your customer service would look like:
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Now if you're into that sort of thing, by all means go for it but I'd prefer a Hip-Hop flavored place to represent Hip-Hop in its entirety, not just ridiculous stereotype of 2008's gangsta rap.
And who cares if profanity is a part of life? It's not a part of Hip-Hop. It's not part of its ideology or culture. Rappers are people and people use profanity.
Naw, it wouldnt be like that. lol. With someone in customers faces yelling? Naw. Not like that at all. LOL! That would be funny if there was a place like that, but I aint trying put costomers through anything like that. The scripts if said would be said off on the side lines when ordering/waiting, not when you're trying to enjoy your meal.
Here's reality for you: Hiphop does not need; have anything to do with profanity, or the other way around. A lot of people are against profanity. As a company grows, it earns more money and becomes better known, but at a price. Just like a person automatically signs away a lot of their "privacy" when they become hollywood-famous, whether they like it or not, the same happens to a business that grows in the business world. You're obviously a very liberal person, and might I presume, one who has utterly failed to realize the concept of conservatism. If everyone in the world was as free-minded as you, there would be nothing or no one to hold us back. Without a defined norm for how people should act and behave, people would be so vastly different from one another that we could not possibly live together. It's important to have people who ask critical questions to keep everyone in check, that's why it's fortunate, in a way, that some people are overly conservative.
I have already explained why profanity has nothing to do with free speech. Of course it is just one viewpoint, but come on. Please make sense of why the notion of free speech also suggests you should be able to use profanity as you please. I don't get why you're so caught up in profanity anyway. Do you like to use it? Do you think it sounds good? Anyway, when you open a business you have to think further than a daydreamer. You have to be realistic. You talk so much about reality but what do you even know about the reality of the business world? Running a business means you have to pass certain quality tests. Furtherer, having a staff that practice such an on-the-edge behavior is a possible liability in the future. Think about it for one second. Don't you even see a slight possibility that one day, one of the staff may take it a little bit too far, say the wrong thing to the wrong guy in the wrong place at the wrong time, or be misinterpreted in a way that could cause a situation that could possibly escalate into a violent situation? Or that a lawsuit might come of it? You don't have any money, you said so yourself. If you take up a loan, you are relying on this business idea to be a success for your own future's sake. If you get a sponsor, there will likely be a catch that comes with the money, ensuring the investor(s) money back if anything goes wrong.
You would be involved with lawyers who take things into consideration that you and I didn't even know existed. Here's an idea you probably didn't even think about yet: Wouldn't it be a good idea to get some professional statistics company to do some market research for you to see what people actually think of your idea? See, you get this idea that you apparently think is great and really creative, and I get the impression that you feel like some sort of pioneer, but you are likely not the first person to try something like this. A real piece of reality is that the business world is a conservative world whether you like it or not. Your ideas are noble but you're not very realistic at all.
The reality also includes forests, ku klux klan members and period blood, but you don't use any of those things in your resturant. They have as much to do with hiphop as profanity.
You moron lol. Pick up a book about child psychology please, and save your potential offspring from a horrible life.
Okay. Great, I agree. I still don't think having your employers using profanity frequently, and using profanity in your marketing, is a good idea.
Most people agree that profanity is a bad thing. Excuse me, most people who aren't amoral.
Great, but profanity is neither art nor entertainment. You can provide both, without the profanity.
Nice. But you can do this too without the profanity.
I have already explained why profanity has nothing to do with free speech. Of course it is just one viewpoint, but come on. Please make sense of why the notion of free speech also suggests you should be able to use profanity as you please. I don't get why you're so caught up in profanity anyway. Do you like to use it? Do you think it sounds good? Anyway, when you open a business you have to think further than a daydreamer. You have to be realistic. You talk so much about reality but what do you even know about the reality of the business world? Running a business means you have to pass certain quality tests. Furtherer, having a staff that practice such an on-the-edge behavior is a possible liability in the future. Think about it for one second. Don't you even see a slight possibility that one day, one of the staff may take it a little bit too far, say the wrong thing to the wrong guy in the wrong place at the wrong time, or be misinterpreted in a way that could cause a situation that could possibly escalate into a violent situation? Or that a lawsuit might come of it? You don't have any money, you said so yourself. If you take up a loan, you are relying on this business idea to be a success for your own future's sake. If you get a sponsor, there will likely be a catch that comes with the money, ensuring the investor(s) money back if anything goes wrong.
You would be involved with lawyers who take things into consideration that you and I didn't even know existed. Here's an idea you probably didn't even think about yet: Wouldn't it be a good idea to get some professional statistics company to do some market research for you to see what people actually think of your idea? See, you get this idea that you apparently think is great and really creative, and I get the impression that you feel like some sort of pioneer, but you are likely not the first person to try something like this. A real piece of reality is that the business world is a conservative world whether you like it or not. Your ideas are noble but you're not very realistic at all.
The reality also includes forests, ku klux klan members and period blood, but you don't use any of those things in your resturant. They have as much to do with hiphop as profanity.
You moron lol. Pick up a book about child psychology please, and save your potential offspring from a horrible life.
Okay. Great, I agree. I still don't think having your employers using profanity frequently, and using profanity in your marketing, is a good idea.
Most people agree that profanity is a bad thing. Excuse me, most people who aren't amoral.
Great, but profanity is neither art nor entertainment. You can provide both, without the profanity.
Nice. But you can do this too without the profanity.
LOL. It's not cool at all, why in the world would you want to do that? I also think it's extremely funny that you talk about responsibility. Let me get back to that in a short bit.
I'm not talking about suing rappers. You are discussing something entirely different from the rest of us. Obviously I listen to rap, so I can't be against profanity or think of it as horrible at all, but you need to get it through your thick skull that you don't need profanity to make art, and profanity otherwise is a root for negativity. Pretty much everyone who isn't a gang-banger, or otherwise an idiot who is doomed in life, will agree with that. Like I said above, I think it's funny that you talk about responsibility. Like I said, I'm not AGAINST profanity, but I think your idea of a chain of stores that have staff that use profanity, justifying it with things like "children need to learn about reality", "it's a part of reality", and "i want to make it so that using profanity in art is cool" is a very, very irresponsible idea. You don't even know about the social effects of profanity use. Read a few books before you make up your mind about something that you obviously don't understand fully. I can tell you that you are wrong. Young children do not need to learn about profanity, profanity does not need to be cool in art, and before you get all ambitious wanting to change how people perceive art, maybe you try to not be a person who makes a thread about needing a place to stay for two months for $400. You are being totally unrealistic and delusional. A fast food chain wouldn't change anything when it comes to art, your idea would only attract negative attention towards hip-hop, may I add negative attention that hip-hop might not even want.
I learned a lot about art in school, and I also learned to not use profanity. The two are not one and the same buddy, face it.
I'm not talking about suing rappers. You are discussing something entirely different from the rest of us. Obviously I listen to rap, so I can't be against profanity or think of it as horrible at all, but you need to get it through your thick skull that you don't need profanity to make art, and profanity otherwise is a root for negativity. Pretty much everyone who isn't a gang-banger, or otherwise an idiot who is doomed in life, will agree with that. Like I said above, I think it's funny that you talk about responsibility. Like I said, I'm not AGAINST profanity, but I think your idea of a chain of stores that have staff that use profanity, justifying it with things like "children need to learn about reality", "it's a part of reality", and "i want to make it so that using profanity in art is cool" is a very, very irresponsible idea. You don't even know about the social effects of profanity use. Read a few books before you make up your mind about something that you obviously don't understand fully. I can tell you that you are wrong. Young children do not need to learn about profanity, profanity does not need to be cool in art, and before you get all ambitious wanting to change how people perceive art, maybe you try to not be a person who makes a thread about needing a place to stay for two months for $400. You are being totally unrealistic and delusional. A fast food chain wouldn't change anything when it comes to art, your idea would only attract negative attention towards hip-hop, may I add negative attention that hip-hop might not even want.
I learned a lot about art in school, and I also learned to not use profanity. The two are not one and the same buddy, face it.
Preach, Chronic, Hizzle, Illumantile why are you ruining this thread with intelligence? You're supposed to encourage the idiots to do stupid things then laugh at them, not talk sense into them. That being said, Sign Related, i think you're restuarant should use as many racial slurs/profanity as possible. Gotta keep it real. Also fake drug deals sounds great, just don't have cops arrest the dealers. Have the dealers kill the cops
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