Creating Hip-Hop fast food joint: (your ideas)

Rahim

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#22
*Welcome to Burgers and Blunts* how may i help you???

yes i would like a Big Makaveli burger, Biggie Fries and a Lg Mystikal, and a Puffy Shake w Eminem's on top.
LOL @ makaveli burger...thats a good one....

and to go with that...you can have a choice of adding on a special thug life sauce
 

Shadows

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#23
Gotta have the ghetto hood-ness, that thug-ness, that gangsta-ness, that baller-ness, that pimp-ness, that drug dealer-ness, that rap slang-ness all in a Hip-Hop theme fast food chain.

I'm thinkin' among what else is to be served should be:

PB&J sandwiches
Grilled Cheese sandwiches
Balony sandwiches with you choice of mustard or mayo.


^^That'll be the cheapest stuff on the menu. This should beat out the cheapness of Taco Bell in competition.

There needs to be a sub sandwich to compete with Sub Way and Qizno. It should be one sub offered... call it the "6 inch long No Homo Sub" LOL!

As for the music the joints should have a 'two fer tuesday'. That's the day where two tracks by an artist gets played back to back.
lol, a 99Cents meal, Take Dat McDonaldz!

yah, or Westcoast wednesday... ;)
 

Preach

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#24
Some good ideas, some are not. Would this be a fast food chain for black people only? Because I surely would never order a McNigga. And if some silly waiter started rapping their menu to me I would most likely laugh. I do like the idea of having everything be hip-hop related, I guess the trick is to steer clear of the bubblegum factory. Also, to be able to play different types of hiphop in different types of section, you would need quite a large place. For it to be succesful and not annoying you would have to build soundproof sections. Soundproofing a room is expensive. However, soundproofing sections and closing them so all the music doesn't blend together most likely breaks security regulations.

The problem is I dont have the kind of doe or collateral just yet. So if I can pitch the idea to the right person(s) maybe I can get a lump sum or royalties. I'd shoot for royalties over a lump sum.
You realize if I were that person I could take your idea right now and never even think about you, ever again? If that's what you're going for, you have to make sure people don't take advantage of your idea. Legally, posting all of your ideas up wasn't that smart if you're really, REALLY serious about this.
 
#25
Well first off, start doing a Business Plan of your idea and then only you could start mildely thinking about this idea...

Btw, that violence stuff (fake guns, curse words) would do no good.
Do they have ppl on a listing that can write up a professional business plan for me with me just telling em how it should be/go since I wouldnt know how to word it into a reviewable prespective like a pro?

It's entertainment like WWE, not real violence. It's meant to be flashy. It wont be any name calling put to the customers. Maybe between the employees for show. For instance: An employee may say to another employee: "Mothafucka, hurry up with that order any day now!" Customers with a sense of humor should find it funny. Hell, flat out entertaining while they wait on their order.

Besides, it's time for society to respect our culture and everything that come with it like the curse words too. It's going to take this Hip-Hop culture to push freedom of speech into a business setting/world. I doubt anyone who likes hip-hop would have a problem with the curse words. And ppl that dont like hip-hop would be hypocrites to have a problem with words since we all know they be the same ppl going to the Rated R movies where there is lots of curse words being said and violence and sex scene all in the name of entertainment. And face it, curse words wont go away and everyone learns them. It's something ppl should accept in society. ;) Besides, entertainment is what is wanted. Ppl would pay good bucks to eat at a hip hop theme fast food joint if not for the food alone then for the entertainment.

These joints should have scripts to be performed between employees sometimes when they feel like putting on a show... Like they talking pass costumers to, say, the employed janitor, and talking about something like: Yo son, you got the dope? And the other would say something like, Yeah, I got the dope. What you need? What you want?

Oh yeah, the male employees should wear either hats like the kango with the brim all the way around or the burray (sp?) style or those long tieable duo rags with the joint logo or colors of course. :cool:
 
#26
Do they have ppl on a listing that can write up a professional business plan for me with me just telling em how it should be/go since I wouldnt know how to word it into a reviewable prespective like a pro?

It's entertainment like WWE, not real violence. It's meant to be flashy. It wont be any name calling put to the customers. Maybe between the employees for show. For instance: An employee may say to another employee: "Mothafucka, hurry up with that order any day now!" Customers with a sense of humor should find it funny. Hell, flat out entertaining while they wait on their order.

Besides, it's time for society to respect our culture and everything that come with it like the curse words too. It's going to take this Hip-Hop culture to push freedom of speech into a business setting/world. I doubt anyone who likes hip-hop would have a problem with the curse words. And ppl that dont like hip-hop would be hypocrites to have a problem with words since we all know they be the same ppl going to the Rated R movies where there is lots of curse words being said and violence and sex scene all in the name of entertainment. And face it, curse words wont go away and everyone learns them. It's something ppl should accept in society. ;) Besides, entertainment is what is wanted. Ppl would pay good bucks to eat at a hip hop theme fast food joint if not for the food alone then for the entertainment.

These joints should have scripts to be performed between employees sometimes when they feel like putting on a show... Like they talking pass costumers to, say, the employed janitor, and talking about something like: Yo son, you got the dope? And the other would say something like, Yeah, I got the dope. What you need? What you want?

Oh yeah, the male employees should wear either hats like the kango with the brim all the way around or the burray (sp?) style or those long tieable duo rags with the joint logo or colors of course. :cool:

so i'll be eating a Ghetto Burger while a fake drug sale is going on in the corner under the ceiling fan?
 
#27
Some good ideas, some are not. Would this be a fast food chain for black people only? Because I surely would never order a McNigga. And if some silly waiter started rapping their menu to me I would most likely laugh. I do like the idea of having everything be hip-hop related, I guess the trick is to steer clear of the bubblegum factory. Also, to be able to play different types of hiphop in different types of section, you would need quite a large place. For it to be succesful and not annoying you would have to build soundproof sections. Soundproofing a room is expensive. However, soundproofing sections and closing them so all the music doesn't blend together most likely breaks security regulations.

You realize if I were that person I could take your idea right now and never even think about you, ever again? If that's what you're going for, you have to make sure people don't take advantage of your idea. Legally, posting all of your ideas up wasn't that smart if you're really, REALLY serious about this.

Maybe it should just be one section uncensored for adults and kids with adults. Then again, kids can come in by themselves without parents cause I dont think there is any law against kids coming into a privately own place that has curse words being said. Like books to read you get at a store... They dont come with Parental Advisory on em if they have curse words or say no one under 18. That's only porno books that are for adults. Curse words isnt porno.

Well sites date posts and log IPs so it should be easy to prove it was my idea if I come forward after someone stolen my EXACT idea to the specifics. Take em to court and they'd have to pay royalties. So things can be done the respectable way where they give me my due props as in put me down for royalties or things can be done the legal way where I have props taken for them to pay me my royalties.

Proof in a court of law should trump there word.

And no it wouldnt be for black ppl only. It'll be for whoever enjoys entertainment and the hip hop culture. I dont think it'll actually have a McNigga, but if it did even a white guy could come in a ask for it without a problem. If they pronounce it with an -er they'd be riskin having a problem like someone might spit in their food. But you take a risk when you come off wrong toward anyone these days. That will never go away.
 
#28
so i'll be eating a Ghetto Burger while a fake drug sale is going on in the corner under the ceiling fan?
Well entertainment sells. :laugh: The joint should even have fake cops come out and make fake arrests of the fake drug dealers.

I remember when I was younger the family went on a train resturant that had ppl acting out parts. It was something entertaining. I think they offered murder mysteries and stuff like that. So my original idea different would be fake drug deals and fake arrests. It should even be fake preists and fake ministers coming in renouncing/condemning the place and the employees for entertainment.
 

hizzle?

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#29
Do they have ppl on a listing that can write up a professional business plan for me with me just telling em how it should be/go since I wouldnt know how to word it into a reviewable prespective like a pro?

It's entertainment like WWE, not real violence. It's meant to be flashy. It wont be any name calling put to the customers. Maybe between the employees for show. For instance: An employee may say to another employee: "Mothafucka, hurry up with that order any day now!" Customers with a sense of humor should find it funny. Hell, flat out entertaining while they wait on their order.

Besides, it's time for society to respect our culture and everything that come with it like the curse words too. It's going to take this Hip-Hop culture to push freedom of speech into a business setting/world. I doubt anyone who likes hip-hop would have a problem with the curse words. And ppl that dont like hip-hop would be hypocrites to have a problem with words since we all know they be the same ppl going to the Rated R movies where there is lots of curse words being said and violence and sex scene all in the name of entertainment. And face it, curse words wont go away and everyone learns them. It's something ppl should accept in society. ;) Besides, entertainment is what is wanted. Ppl would pay good bucks to eat at a hip hop theme fast food joint if not for the food alone then for the entertainment.

These joints should have scripts to be performed between employees sometimes when they feel like putting on a show... Like they talking pass costumers to, say, the employed janitor, and talking about something like: Yo son, you got the dope? And the other would say something like, Yeah, I got the dope. What you need? What you want?

Oh yeah, the male employees should wear either hats like the kango with the brim all the way around or the burray (sp?) style or those long tieable duo rags with the joint logo or colors of course. :cool:

Obviously, you're not that organised business wise... There is people who do that, but they often play behind your back.

You can register your idea though. Write a small Business Plan(it's not that hard really, you can find an exemple on your bank's site), print it, send it to yourself by mail, make sure the date is written and everything, and never open it.

Then present your idea to some company that helps your idea being put in place, or at least sold.


And I'm just saying that you legaly can't serve your custommers by saying "What do you want motherfucker"
 
#30
Obviously, you're not that organised business wise... There is people who do that, but they often play behind your back.

You can register your idea though. Write a small Business Plan(it's not that hard really, you can find an exemple on your bank's site), print it, send it to yourself by mail, make sure the date is written and everything, and never open it.

Then present your idea to some company that helps your idea being put in place, or at least sold.


And I'm just saying that you legaly can't serve your custommers by saying "What do you want motherfucker"
Yeah, mail it to myself dated. That'll fly. I'm finna do that.

The problem is the names of the meals. Maybe I'd have to list all the possibilities of names in the idea even though I wouldnt know what exactly food wise will work in reality yet. I'd need to contact businesses that would do business with me and send the precooked food and all that. That's too much to do I'd be better off selling the idea alright for reasonable royalties.

And no, the employees wouldnt name call the customers.
 
#31
i like the music idea, but the talking in ebonics sounds liek shit to me, it should jus be a chill place, nice food, with reeal hiphop music. its a kool idea man\
 

Preach

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#33
I want to make a few points.

Why the profanity? Why do you feel that profanity is a part of "our" culture? And besides, even though I listen to hip-hop, I don't use rap slang, if you want to call it that. So it's not my culture, it's your culture. Profanity is used in most cultures though, so attatching it to a specific culture is wrong to me. It's like saying all english words to do with botany are part of the weed culture, just because people who grow weed will have to use some of them.

Profanity has nothing to do with hip-hop. If you read up on, and watch documentaries about the history of hiphop, you'll see that rappers back in the days didn't swear. The profanity in rap is a sub-consequence of the merging with a certain culture in america, the african-american culture. Over the course of the past 20 years, as no surprise to you I'm sure, the african-american culture has been a victim to a lot of poverty-related troubles. It's a known fact that people are generally more ruthless in poor regions. Now if I stop being so politically correct for a minute, the whole world knows about black gangs in america. That's where the profanity came from, not hip-hop. Low-confident alpha-males who aspire to be the craziest, most violent on the block. Bigger gun = more cool points. Hip-hop evolved out of blues, jazz, reggea and house (depending on who is telling the story of hip-hop). All four genres spawned the artists that would later become rappers anyway.

Furtherer, this crusade for free speech is ignorant. If you fail to see how a word can be more than just a word, I simply can't help you. There's this argument that if you're angry, you might say "fuck". But if you say "refridgerator" in the same tone of voice, in the same manner, while thinking exactly the same thing as you would have thought had you said "fuck", the emotion you are conveying is still the same, and that the words become "just words". That's a nice way to create your own logic, but it's not right. Certain words trigger emotional associations in people. For example, most people have probably been called an ugly motherfucker at some point in their lives. This more or less "traumatic" experience (face it, you remember all your real fights as a kid. Traumatic by definition, not by the standard use of the word) gives a negative association with the word. As such, people who are against profanity aren't always mindless drones out to kill the fun for everyone else. Profanity is a pointless feat of human communication. It is a root of evil and negativity. Why would you want to endorse that with a business that, if your ambitions were to ever blossom, one day will have to set an example? How will you present new business ideas to other corporations, or a board of directors, if new business ideas means a product called "McNigga" for example?

Or to flip it around, what's the purpose of being pro profanity? What do you hope to gain from it? What's your personal motivation? Because you made a point out of having no bans or regulations on profanity. Why is it so important to you to be able to use profanity? Because it makes you feel tough, cool? Because you simply can't be fucked going into a transition? How are you enriched as a person by the use of profanity?

I swear from time to time when the situation calls for it, but I don't do it purposely. It's my natural reaction to certain things. I do try to tone it down though. I find it difficult to talk to people who swear a lot because I stand there next to them with a high desire to impale them. However, the key point here is that I try to contain myself at all times because even though I'm not anti-profanity, I am able to grasp the negativity surrounding it. I'm still one of the cool kids.
 

masta247

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#34
lol Preach is always right because nobody wants to make long ass posts to argue with him :p

As you could notice most of those ideas were steorotypes about hip-hop, sure the culture is not about smoking weed and shooting guns but it was made into it with time. Also it's about how some groups of people perceive hip-hop culture.
They see a bunch of antichrists with gold chains using bad language and talking about killing people.

After reading your post (Preach) again (yes I actually read you long ass post.. twice:p) I agree on most parts lol
 

masta247

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#35
But if you say "refridgerator" in the same tone of voice, in the same manner, while thinking exactly the same thing as you would have thought had you said "fuck", the emotion you are conveying is still the same, and that the words become "just words"
No, I would be even more pissed because it's harder to spell it.
If I was pissed I would have to use something shorter like "ham" or "mop".
 

Chronic

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#36
Profanity has nothing to do with hip-hop. If you read up on, and watch documentaries about the history of hiphop, you'll see that rappers back in the days didn't swear. The profanity in rap is a sub-consequence of the merging with a certain culture in america, the african-american culture.
African American culture and rap are inseperable. Back in the days when rappers didn't swear it was still an extension of African American culture, there was never a merger. I agree with your message but saying the swearing aspect came from "African American culture" is pretty much stereotyping as well.

Hip-hop evolved out of blues, jazz, reggea and house
Reggae, yes. Blues and Jazz, no. And House came out of Hip-Hop, not the other way around.

Besides that I agree. I think I summed it up nicely with my post though :horny:
 
#37
The employees will have to speak in ebonics
I have a idea of what the male employees must wear... Big fake (of course) gold chains and fake tatts even with white Tees and baggy pants.
The female employees gotta be wearing what video hos usually wear.
Also to spice up the culture wear the male employees should be strapped with fake handguns in their belts/pants, exposing 'em.
As for the walls inside... They gotta have posters/pictures in frames of actual rappers and models and tricked out cars. Maybe even drugs and guns.
Welcome to etc. What the fuck do you want from a nigga (or: ho)? Do you that mothafucka for here or do you want the mothafucka to go?
The small drink would be refered to as a Ho. The large drink would be referred to as a Pimp.
That's exactly what I was thinking callin' it a "Drive by" instead of a Drive thru.
Gotta have the ghetto hood-ness, that thug-ness, that gangsta-ness, that baller-ness, that pimp-ness, that drug dealer-ness, that rap slang-ness all in a Hip-Hop theme fast food chain.
The joint should even have fake cops come out and make fake arrests of the fake drug dealers.
Besides, it's time for society to respect our culture
Wow. Just...wow.

No offense, but this is a terrible idea. I'm not sure there's a big market for a fast food joint that bombards you with racial stereotypes while you eat.
 

Preach

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#38
lol Preach is always right because nobody wants to make long ass posts to argue with him :p
Lol, I like that sentiment.

As you could notice most of those ideas were steorotypes about hip-hop, sure the culture is not about smoking weed and shooting guns but it was made into it with time. Also it's about how some groups of people perceive hip-hop culture.
They see a bunch of antichrists with gold chains using bad language and talking about killing people.

After reading your post (Preach) again (yes I actually read you long ass post.. twice:p) I agree lol
Since you agree I guess you just wanted to angle it, and I see that angle.

The problem is that the business idea I've seen so far would do nothing but add fuel to the stereotype fire.

If most people in the world who aren't familiar with hip-hop culture already think everyone belonging to the culture are thugs/gangsters, or wannabe-thugs/-gangsters, you aren't doing anything good for the hip-hop culture. The way I got it, Sign wanted this to be a place "for the hiphop heads". But continuing to fuel this stereotype is comparable to using drugs. At a certain point in life, a drug user will realize what he is, and that it's easier to keep going the same route than to turn, go back, and start another one.

Some people who use drugs have a moral dilemma every time they take a dosage. "I know I shouldn't be doing this, but I feel so shitty. Fuck it, I'll do it. If I get suicidal in ten years or I get busted by the cops I'll deal with it when it happens, I'll manage, I'll live". Then throughout life you keep knocking down walls, hitting new lows all the time. When you die you are worthless and no one cares for you. This is what people who endorse the negativity in hiphop are causing for the culture as a whole. There will be no glorious last words from hiphop. No one will show up at the funeral. Because hiphop never did anything but spawn negativity. The world is better off without hiphop and terrorists.

Now all jokes aside, I really believe this. Everybody has always hated on hiphop, and we keep giving them reasons to. How about trying a different strategy. What if hiphoppers stop being fucking hippies who above all don't want to lift a finger (but use a bunch of moral arguments to justify it of course) for the betterment of the culture? It's not gonna happen overnight, but if certain hiphoppers and artists quit the antics, we could slowly turn this ship around.

Btw I don't expect anything to ever come of this, but I'm discussing as if you were about to launch a major chain. My post doesn't make so much sense when we are talking about one fastfood joint. However, thinking ahead and being ambitions is always smart. I would assume your goal with opening a business would be to keep expanding.
 

Preach

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#39
African American culture and rap are inseperable. Back in the days when rappers didn't swear it was still an extension of African American culture, there was never a merger. I agree with your message but saying the swearing aspect came from "African American culture" is pretty much stereotyping as well.
Either way, it has little to do with the four elements.

And besides, even though I see why profanity is a part of hiphop, that doesn't explain why it should continue to be. But you already said you agreed with my point, so that's that lol.

Reggae, yes. Blues and Jazz, no. And House came out of Hip-Hop, not the other way around.
African slaves played blues. African slaves became African Americans, and also started playing jazz. It didn't evolve directly into rap, but it is part of the black culture that were the pioneers of rap. You're right about House, I don't know where my head was, I meant to say Dance, referring to the Cali scene when Dr Dre came up. Either way, profanity was never a part of black music was what I meant.
 

hizzle?

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#40
I want to make a few points.

Why the profanity? Why do you feel that profanity is a part of "our" culture? And besides, even though I listen to hip-hop, I don't use rap slang, if you want to call it that. So it's not my culture, it's your culture. Profanity is used in most cultures though, so attatching it to a specific culture is wrong to me. It's like saying all english words to do with botany are part of the weed culture, just because people who grow weed will have to use some of them.

Profanity has nothing to do with hip-hop. If you read up on, and watch documentaries about the history of hiphop, you'll see that rappers back in the days didn't swear. The profanity in rap is a sub-consequence of the merging with a certain culture in america, the african-american culture. Over the course of the past 20 years, as no surprise to you I'm sure, the african-american culture has been a victim to a lot of poverty-related troubles. It's a known fact that people are generally more ruthless in poor regions. Now if I stop being so politically correct for a minute, the whole world knows about black gangs in america. That's where the profanity came from, not hip-hop. Low-confident alpha-males who aspire to be the craziest, most violent on the block. Bigger gun = more cool points. Hip-hop evolved out of blues, jazz, reggea and house (depending on who is telling the story of hip-hop). All four genres spawned the artists that would later become rappers anyway.

Furtherer, this crusade for free speech is ignorant. If you fail to see how a word can be more than just a word, I simply can't help you. There's this argument that if you're angry, you might say "fuck". But if you say "refridgerator" in the same tone of voice, in the same manner, while thinking exactly the same thing as you would have thought had you said "fuck", the emotion you are conveying is still the same, and that the words become "just words". That's a nice way to create your own logic, but it's not right. Certain words trigger emotional associations in people. For example, most people have probably been called an ugly motherfucker at some point in their lives. This more or less "traumatic" experience (face it, you remember all your real fights as a kid. Traumatic by definition, not by the standard use of the word) gives a negative association with the word. As such, people who are against profanity aren't always mindless drones out to kill the fun for everyone else. Profanity is a pointless feat of human communication. It is a root of evil and negativity. Why would you want to endorse that with a business that, if your ambitions were to ever blossom, one day will have to set an example? How will you present new business ideas to other corporations, or a board of directors, if new business ideas means a product called "McNigga" for example?

Or to flip it around, what's the purpose of being pro profanity? What do you hope to gain from it? What's your personal motivation? Because you made a point out of having no bans or regulations on profanity. Why is it so important to you to be able to use profanity? Because it makes you feel tough, cool? Because you simply can't be fucked going into a transition? How are you enriched as a person by the use of profanity?

I swear from time to time when the situation calls for it, but I don't do it purposely. It's my natural reaction to certain things. I do try to tone it down though. I find it difficult to talk to people who swear a lot because I stand there next to them with a high desire to impale them. However, the key point here is that I try to contain myself at all times because even though I'm not anti-profanity, I am able to grasp the negativity surrounding it. I'm still one of the cool kids.
Basicaly...

The idea itself is good... the way you use it would definitly not work, and Bill O'Reilly will have a new fact to his anti-rap arguments.
 

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