To you English speaking people.

[Duke]

Alright, now I'm a Euro. English is my second language, okay?


Will you people PLEASE stop saying "would of". It's a contraction of "would HAVE". HAVE, people, HAVE. HAVE gets shortened to "ve". Not of. Would of does not exist, capiche?


You've just been corrected by a foreigner. Now go sit in a corner and be ashamed. You know who you are.

 

[Bobby Sands]

i never would of.

 

[Illuminattile]

Somebody must of really annoyed you to get you to make this thread. Still, you could of (and maybe should of) put your point across a bit more respectfully.

You have to except that a lot of people make mistakes, because English is a complicated language. Doesn't mean they're all alliterate.

 

[Chronic]

Only complicated for non-Germanic language speaking people. Because we speak Dutch we have the edge on French people for example but it's pretty bad when our English is better than some people who speak English as their first language. My pronounciation is considerably worse than my peers with the exact same English education (my school was different from others so I again have the edge on friends who didn't go to my school) and I imagine some of my sentences will appear to be, although not incorrect, grammatically awkward. But besides that it seems I know the language better than people who's native tongue is English. I never care for people's handle on a language, as long as they're trying (nut lyk diz) but when I see people confusing you're/your were/where/we're it does piss me off. That's pre-school grammar.

EDIT: My Dutch fucking sucks so maybe it's just a second language thing. I'm pretty sure my interest in English exceeds that of the average English speaker and I'm not as caught up in colloquialisms.

 

[Duke]

Exactly what Chronny says. If someone misspells "colloquialism", who cares? It's a stupid word, but pre-school grammar mistakes like "would of" "youre bike" and "your going to the party?" are just....I mean, is this genuine ignorance or do you just don't care?

 

[Chronic]

I'll expand on the question of not caring in relation to message boards (such a Preach thing to say). I hate spelling Nazis (although I'm the type of person to correct something if it's right in front of me) but not taking the time to properly write something down is annoying. Ultimately whenever we post it's purely because we want to make ourselves be heard but the other people posting aren't puppets for your entertainment. Make a goddamn attempt to make your post readable. I take it a little far (roaches gave me some nice things with listing albums and songs) but at least be willing to use backspace and re-read your post once. If you want your post to be read make it so that we don't have to use our bullshit decipher first. The only excuses are if you're in a hurry, pissed off or high (laziness is a legitimate problem!!!).

 

[hizzle?]

Somebody must of really annoyed you to get you to make this thread. Still, you could of (and maybe should of) put your point across a bit more respectfully.

You have to except that a lot of people make mistakes, because English is a complicated language. Doesn't mean they're all alliterate.

Shut up. Your country is not even at the Euros. You have no right 've opinion.

 

[AmerikazMost]

I support what you're saying, as I'm annoyed by those kinds of mistakes as well, but let me say something about your surprise that you speak better English than native speakers.

I took Spanish for four years in high school as my foreign language requirement. There was a native speaker named Juan in the class. Other than the idiots and the absolute lazy students, he was possibly the worst student in the class, even though he was a native speaker.

Why? Well, for one, he wasn't exactly the brightest light bulb in the box either. But he also learned it through experience, through word of mouth. His parents didn't sit down and teach him grammar rules, they talked to him, and he picked it up naturally. Now, for us in the rest of the class, we had to learn it by the book, so we were conscious of and knew nothing but the correct grammar. We didn't know the colloquialisms and such.

In this respect, people who study languages that are foreign to them are more aware of the rules of the language than many native speakers. It's no surprise then that you may be better grammatically in English than many people on this board.




Also, there's no "A" in definitely. Thank you.

 

[masta247]

I often find people mistaking "you're" and "your" or "than" and "then", it's mega stupid when I see a native english speaker who can't properly form a sentence using words I learned on my first english lessons.

I think I also often make mistakes at grammar, sometimes I can't find a word I'm looking for but that's mostly because nobody here where I live speaks english. We have less than 1% foreigners, immigrants and such, there were maybe 5 or 6 situations when I've ever heard someone speak english here so I consider myself really superior to basically anyone else in Poland if it comes to language skills but on the other hand I can't compare my language skills to those of an average native english speaker. I studied at the private school so I learned a bit more than others and besides I always liked studying english, also few of my friends from school speak English quite well.

I can't understand English or American people who don't use their language properly and I mean making major mistakes.
Come on! English is really easy and simple compared to most other languages.
Also how is it possible that those people are hired somewhere, have internet and time to spread their faulty English?
It's beyond my imagination because someone who can't properly speak even in his own language wouldn't have a life here (and what I'm ashamed of, would most probably emigrate to Britain)

 

[Duke]

I support what you're saying, as I'm annoyed by those kinds of mistakes as well, but let me say something about your surprise that you speak better English than native speakers.

I took Spanish for four years in high school as my foreign language requirement. There was a native speaker named Juan in the class. Other than the idiots and the absolute lazy students, he was possibly the worst student in the class, even though he was a native speaker.

Why? Well, for one, he wasn't exactly the brightest light bulb in the box either. But he also learned it through experience, through word of mouth. His parents didn't sit down and teach him grammar rules, they talked to him, and he picked it up naturally. Now, for us in the rest of the class, we had to learn it by the book, so we were conscious of and knew nothing but the correct grammar. We didn't know the colloquialisms and such.

In this respect, people who study languages that are foreign to them are more aware of the rules of the language than many native speakers. It's no surprise then that you may be better grammatically in English than many people on this board.




Also, there's no "A" in definitely. Thank you.

I agree with you and understand your point. But c'mon, mistakes like "their/there" and such are just under a certain borderline of laziness/stupidity/whatever.

And it's different for everyone. One person has more "feel" for a language than (than/then is also a good one) the next, ok, no problem. It's just that I see native speakers make mistakes of a level that would get an elementary school kid expelled.

Dutch of course also has tricky parts. But I hardly see people make (I won't give examples since they won't mean anything to you) simple spelling mistakes (then/than, their/there, would've/would of) of such a magnitude.

So I wonder, what causes this? Obviously, the reasons will be different for every person. Maybe they're tired and cant't be arsed to be an immaculate linguist on an internet forum, yet they'll write a perfect application letter since that *does* matter.

But you also have people that spell as if they never finished kindergarten.

 

[Duke]

Also, there's no "A" in definitely. Thank you.

Where did I write this?

 

[AmerikazMost]

Where did I write this?

You didn't. I was just expressing some of my own grammar frustration.


And if you're argument is that people are stupid, I might have to concede that you make a valid point.

 

[Chronic]

I support what you're saying, as I'm annoyed by those kinds of mistakes as well, but let me say something about your surprise that you speak better English than native speakers.

I took Spanish for four years in high school as my foreign language requirement. There was a native speaker named Juan in the class. Other than the idiots and the absolute lazy students, he was possibly the worst student in the class, even though he was a native speaker.

Why? Well, for one, he wasn't exactly the brightest light bulb in the box either. But he also learned it through experience, through word of mouth. His parents didn't sit down and teach him grammar rules, they talked to him, and he picked it up naturally. Now, for us in the rest of the class, we had to learn it by the book, so we were conscious of and knew nothing but the correct grammar. We didn't know the colloquialisms and such.

In this respect, people who study languages that are foreign to them are more aware of the rules of the language than many native speakers. It's no surprise then that you may be better grammatically in English than many people on this board.

My Dutch fucking sucks so maybe it's just a second language thing. I'm pretty sure my interest in English exceeds that of the average English speaker and I'm not as caught up in colloquialisms.

I had already put it in 2 sentences motherfucker! My English > yours... which also has me agreeing with you so I have gained nothing

And just for your enjoyment: cemetary!

 

[Duke]

You didn't. I was just expressing some of my own grammar frustration.


And if you're argument is that people are stupid, I might have to concede that you make a valid point.

Oh yeah. Although definately vs. definitely can be excused. It's one where you have to think about it for a second. It's an acceptable mistake, whereas writing "you should of come to the party cos youre sister was their and got real drunk and funny", it makes me think that somewhere along the line someone lost a few brain cells.

It's not like it's "time saving" either. As is writing "ur" instead of "you're". You're still a lazy shit, but the excuse is applicable. You type two less letters, you add another millisecond to your time. But there's not even an excuse for mixing up their and there.

 

[keco52]

It's not like it's "time saving" either. As is writing "ur" instead of "you're". You're still a lazy shit, but the excuse is applicable. You type two less letters, you add another millisecond to your time. But there's not even an excuse for mixing up their and there.

I do this bc I'm used to texting which only gives you 200 or so characters so you have to shorten everything. It becomes a habit. I'll go through phases where I don't even use correct punctuation. The only thing that bothers me is when ppl type how they talk.

 

[Duke]

I do this bc I'm used to texting which only gives you 200 or so characters so you have to shorten everything. It becomes a habit. I'll go through phases where I don't even use correct punctuation. The only thing that bothers me is when ppl type how they talk.

You're excused because you're cute.

And yeah, the shortening of words is acceptable, for various reasons.

 

[Stred]

You know your schooling has gone down the drain when someone tells you a joke in person, and you responsd not only by laughing, but saying lol without meaning to

 

[SicC]

Im going to keep speaking improper just to bother you Duke.

pz

 

[roaches]

I've nevar scene dis poast beefore.

 

[Tha_Wood]

im bad at this kind of stuff