ok evry1 sayin pac was gona leave death row , i dont believe that becuz, if you look on you tube theres an interview on sept. 4 about death row east, he got shot 3 days later, u think he gona change his mind in 3 days, i mean its possible, and suge woodnt kill sum1 sittin next 2 him and take a bullet swipe in the head, or kill sum1 then get his name tatted on his arm, but who knos i wish i knew
i gota good point 4 u guys
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from what i always understood, what has been said is true. he was going to have Makaveli Records as an offshoot of DR, like Dre and Em with Shady/Aftermath. that's why i never gave much credence to people who said Suge had him killed cuz he was planning to leave DR. plus, that doesn't explain why everyone else who actually did leave are still breathing today and Pac is not.
Makaveli records was just a pipe dream, DeathRow East was Pacs plan. Pac or No Pac, Suge would have set up Deathrow East if he wanted it, which he didn't.
I read Suge owed Pac roughly $10m. Pac told Suge that he wanted that $10m to start DeathRow East, and if he wasn't prepared to just hand it over, he would go through the courts to get it.
My Theory;
Suge doesn't have the $10m or wants to keep it for himself > Suge has Pac popped > No DeathRow East nor $10m for Pac > Suge doesnt have to hand over the $10m.
I read Suge owed Pac roughly $10m. Pac told Suge that he wanted that $10m to start DeathRow East, and if he wasn't prepared to just hand it over, he would go through the courts to get it.
My Theory;
Suge doesn't have the $10m or wants to keep it for himself > Suge has Pac popped > No DeathRow East nor $10m for Pac > Suge doesnt have to hand over the $10m.
bullshit. Death Row East was Suge's baby, Pac was along for the ride. and Makaveli Records/Euphanasia wasn't just a pipe dream, it was becoming a reality. you don't have business cards made up for a company if it's still only in the dream stage. hell, in interviews Pac talks about having artists already signed with him on Makaveli, that's hardly what i'd call a pipe dream. in the August '96 issue of The Source Magazine (i think it's August, either way, the one with Suge on the cover posing with one of his Rolls) Suge talked about Death Row East, it was his company, it was his plan, Pac had very little to do with it other than helping to promote it. and besides, Suge did set up Death Row East (although nothing came out of it) just a year or 2 ago, and he signed Lake (i believe) as the first artist. if he hadn't want to do DR East in the first place, why would he have set it up after Pac had died?
as for the money owed, well Suge did owe Pac a lot of money, but he also owed everyone else on his roster money that he had no intention of paying. Snoop was rather vocal about that and that is the reason why he left. so again i ask, why is he not dead? sure Suge has made many vague threats towards him, but there has never even been an attempt on his life that i know of. and the number one fact is that Suge Knight is not an idiot. he is a smart (although shiesty) man, and i think he had a bit more sense than to put himself in harm's way by having the car he was in sprayed with an automatic weapon. one single stray bullet and Suge would be as dead as Pac is. does that sound like something a smart man would do?
Suge could have been killed in the shooting just as easily as Pac. so why go to the trouble of having someone killed to keep the money you owe them, but put yourself at great risk to do it? it just doesn't make any sense.
as for the money owed, well Suge did owe Pac a lot of money, but he also owed everyone else on his roster money that he had no intention of paying. Snoop was rather vocal about that and that is the reason why he left. so again i ask, why is he not dead? sure Suge has made many vague threats towards him, but there has never even been an attempt on his life that i know of. and the number one fact is that Suge Knight is not an idiot. he is a smart (although shiesty) man, and i think he had a bit more sense than to put himself in harm's way by having the car he was in sprayed with an automatic weapon. one single stray bullet and Suge would be as dead as Pac is. does that sound like something a smart man would do?
Suge could have been killed in the shooting just as easily as Pac. so why go to the trouble of having someone killed to keep the money you owe them, but put yourself at great risk to do it? it just doesn't make any sense.
Suge filed for bankruptcy last year, so obviously it wasn't then, but it did happen.i may have the dates wrong, because i could care less what Suge Knight does with his company and i haven't followed any moves from DR in a long time. but i read numerous press releases from Suge and Lake when it happened. but don't take my word for it, look it up yourself if you don't believe it. and then tell me why Suge went and started DR East when he supposedly didn't want to do it in the first place.
but my point still stands. Suge could have had Pac killed any way, at any time he wanted. we all know he had the connections. so why would he do it in a way that would put himself at so much risk?
but my point still stands. Suge could have had Pac killed any way, at any time he wanted. we all know he had the connections. so why would he do it in a way that would put himself at so much risk?
here, i'll save you the trouble of looking it up yourself:
Daily Hip-Hop News:
Suge Knight Brings Death Row East
Monday - February 27, 2006 by Jolene "foxxylady" Petipas
Suge Knight
After weeks of speculation, Queens, NY bred rapper Lake recently revealed to New York's Hot 97 that he has signed to Suge Knight's Death Row East, a subsidiary of Death Row Records and he will be the flagship artist for the label.
During Death Row's dominant run in early nineties, Knight expressed plans of launching Death Row East, but they were stalled after he was sentenced to nine years in prison when he violated his probation during a brawl that also involved Tupac Shakur in a Las Vegas hotel in September of 1996.
"Everybody knows Lake is hot," said Knight who was with Lake when he made the announcement. "It speaks for itself. It's really important for me to sign somebody that can go back to their own neighborhood. My whole thing is that, far as the music business, it used to be fun. Its time for me to deal with people that don't tell on me and I don't tell on them."
In the past five years, Lake has made a name for himself on the mixtape circuit and released a compilation titled Lake Entertainment Presents The 41st Side which boated features from Nas, Cormega, Nature, Havoc and other well-known Queensbridge rappers.
"We doing this for the streets" said Lake about the signing. "Death Row is back. The streets is ready, the penitentiary is ready. The foundation of what we doing [starts with] the music."Knight also divulged that he plans to add incarcerated rapper Shyne to the Death Row East roster.
In related news, Knight recently filed a $106 million lawsuit against imprisoned drug dealer Michael Harris and several attorneys, claiming that he and his label were victims of a fraudulent lawsuit.
http://sohh.com/articles/article.php/8421
Daily Hip-Hop News:
Suge Knight Brings Death Row East
Monday - February 27, 2006 by Jolene "foxxylady" Petipas
Suge Knight
After weeks of speculation, Queens, NY bred rapper Lake recently revealed to New York's Hot 97 that he has signed to Suge Knight's Death Row East, a subsidiary of Death Row Records and he will be the flagship artist for the label.
During Death Row's dominant run in early nineties, Knight expressed plans of launching Death Row East, but they were stalled after he was sentenced to nine years in prison when he violated his probation during a brawl that also involved Tupac Shakur in a Las Vegas hotel in September of 1996.
"Everybody knows Lake is hot," said Knight who was with Lake when he made the announcement. "It speaks for itself. It's really important for me to sign somebody that can go back to their own neighborhood. My whole thing is that, far as the music business, it used to be fun. Its time for me to deal with people that don't tell on me and I don't tell on them."
In the past five years, Lake has made a name for himself on the mixtape circuit and released a compilation titled Lake Entertainment Presents The 41st Side which boated features from Nas, Cormega, Nature, Havoc and other well-known Queensbridge rappers.
"We doing this for the streets" said Lake about the signing. "Death Row is back. The streets is ready, the penitentiary is ready. The foundation of what we doing [starts with] the music."Knight also divulged that he plans to add incarcerated rapper Shyne to the Death Row East roster.
In related news, Knight recently filed a $106 million lawsuit against imprisoned drug dealer Michael Harris and several attorneys, claiming that he and his label were victims of a fraudulent lawsuit.
http://sohh.com/articles/article.php/8421
yo but guys listen if suge did it y the fuk wood he say suge shot me on death row cd that was all a set up he wants peeple 2 believe that cuz biggie and puff paid 2 kill him its a fact suge killed big we kno that , so y the fuk wood he kill both pac and big obviously retaliation puff took his artist suge took his i cood see suge killin big 4 retaliation but him killin big after pac wuts the point
well, could it be that for a lot of those 8 years he was in prison? it's kinda hard to conduct day-to-day business when you are in jail and the company is losing money, artists and record label support. never mind trying to set up a new faction of your company, just trying to keep the business up and running at that point would be a challenge.
first of all, it's already proven that it does not say "Suge shot me" on the Makaveli album. and i won't even respond to the rest of what you wrote because i'm not sure i understand it. maybe if you tried to type a sentence that made sense that would help lol. Pac was killed in retaliation for attacking Orlando Anderson. that's the way i see it, and that theory makes a lot more sense than any of the ones accusing Suge.
You don't read the news do you? Only a few weeks ago they confirmed that Bad Boy, Puff or Biggie had nothing to do with Pacs murder.
If you read up on your history, A very famous actress was kidnapped by the same gang that killed Pac, she knows the identity of his killers but fears for herself and her family so she is keeping her mouth shut.
It is highly unlikely that Bigs murder was planned, as Biggie wasn't supposed to be at that location at that time. He decided to extend his vacation on the day he was due to fly home. Biggies killers were most likely oppurtunists.
If you read up on your history, A very famous actress was kidnapped by the same gang that killed Pac, she knows the identity of his killers but fears for herself and her family so she is keeping her mouth shut.
It is highly unlikely that Bigs murder was planned, as Biggie wasn't supposed to be at that location at that time. He decided to extend his vacation on the day he was due to fly home. Biggies killers were most likely oppurtunists.
well i do believe that Suge was involved in BIG's death, considering all the evidence that points that way (which of course the LAPD swept under the rug since it involves at least one of their officers). i believe David Mack killed BIG, possibly under orders from Suge, maybe on his own, but it was done for Suge, i truly believe that. it's a known fact that Mack had worked security for Suge, and the car seen leaving the scene of the shooting was identified as Mack's car (or at least the same make, model and color of Mack's car). so it seems very possible that Suge was connected to BIG's death.
that is possible, but it is also possible that he was being watched or followed, since it was known he would be in LA during that peiod of time.
that is possible, but it is also possible that he was being watched or followed, since it was known he would be in LA during that peiod of time.
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