Psychology Degree

dilla

Trumpfan17 aka Coonie aka Dilla aka Tennis Dog
#21
A friend and I are both pre-med and were thinking how cool it would be to have minors in psychology as physicians. While we didn't go full blast an do all the requirements, we still manage to take two or more psychology classes a year. A psychology degree would be a great fall back plan if med school doesn't work out for me. Still, I think I have found a lot of answers to questions I've had about life in two classes, both psychology classes. Abnormal psychology and developmental psychology. It's almost like a philosophy class, where it teaches you how we are programmed to act as humans but how we should act as a society. Reactions, emotions, etc. Far more useful to me than the developmental cycle of a chicken embryo in vertebrate development.

Nevertheless, it seems like you want to do it "for fun" and it really is fun. If you have the time and money to go through school, do it. You will enjoy it. I can't think of one person I know that has been "oh man, fucking psychology class. Fucking thing sucks." No complaints on the teachers either. They all seem to have a similar persona. Which is why I believe psychology is definitely more than just a class or an area of study.
 

Da_Funk

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#22
I don't know how you can do medicine. I can't imagine anything in the world that would piss me off more than knowing I'm a doctor. Now being a radiologist would be cool, but fuck sixteen years of school.

oh and i guess you know me well enough (better than over computer mediated communication) to judge me on that one.
I do. And make one god damn post you fuck stick.
 

masta247

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#23
I don't think that a full Psychology degree is what you're after as in my opinion many things there are useless, unneeded and full of boring theory, like Carmi said. If it's not important for your career at all maybe picking only a few interesting courses would do if there's an option.
That's what I did with biology I wanted to study but thank God (or a shitty high school biology teacher) went a different way. There were some things that I found interesting and applied for a few single courses though.
Since then I applied to a bunch of others. That's what I'd do in your case but don't know if there's an option there.
Here our biggest university offers single courses that you can apply for and complete without taking whole university studies with all unwanted classes you'd have to attend.
 

dilla

Trumpfan17 aka Coonie aka Dilla aka Tennis Dog
#24
I don't know how you can do medicine. I can't imagine anything in the world that would piss me off more than knowing I'm a doctor. Now being a radiologist would be cool, but fuck sixteen years of school.



I do. And make one god damn post you fuck stick.
The amount of school is what pisses you off? Or dealing with death?

For me, there are tons of factors to go into medicine. I'm not gonna type out an essay but technology and personality have a lot to do with it.

I dunno where you're getting sixteen years of school from. Some programs have you in a residency six years after high school. Two years of that and you start working without someone looking over your should. It's eight, at least, but certainly not sixteen. You're dealing with something so intricate, I'd probably want all the time in the world spent teaching me how to not fuck someone up.
 

Da_Funk

Well-Known Member
#26
The amount of school is what pisses you off? Or dealing with death?

For me, there are tons of factors to go into medicine. I'm not gonna type out an essay but technology and personality have a lot to do with it.

I dunno where you're getting sixteen years of school from. Some programs have you in a residency six years after high school. Two years of that and you start working without someone looking over your should. It's eight, at least, but certainly not sixteen. You're dealing with something so intricate, I'd probably want all the time in the world spent teaching me how to not fuck someone up.
To become a radiologist or any kind of specialized doctor your looking at ~16 years of education. At least in Canada, you are. Which is cool, but I'm not nearly passionate enough about medicine, especially the western conception of it, to spend that amount of time learning it. I would like to get on with my life before I turn 30.

Have you ever spent time in the waiting room at a doctors office? Waking up and having to deal with those types of people everyday is what would make me hate life. The schooling itself has nothing to do with it,
 

Jokerman

Well-Known Member
#27
To become a radiologist or any kind of specialized doctor your looking at ~16 years of education. At least in Canada, you are.
No, it's 4 years of college and 4 years of medical school. Then 1 year of internship and 4 years of residency to be a radiologist in Canada. Sometimes they waive the internship. That's 8 years of education and 5 more years of work/education. So that's 13 years if you're including the internship & residency as education. But since you're always learning as a doctor, or should be, you might as well include your whole career as education too.

In the US, it's 4 yrs college, 4 yrs medical school, 1 yr internship, 2 yrs residency. Some specialties require an extra 2-4 yrs schooling after residency.
 

dilla

Trumpfan17 aka Coonie aka Dilla aka Tennis Dog
#29
Surgery is even tougher. I think there is more schooling for that. I don't think I want to work in surgery, although a good friend of mine is looking to robotic surgery. My dad specializes in lungs and sleep medicine. So sleep disorders like snoring, apnea, etc. Then he has his clinic where he's an internist. I really like psychology in this aspect because it has a good bit to do with sleep. Psychology also, I think, will help my approach with patients. Funk mentioned dealing with disgruntled patients that have to wait. That's not the doctor's fault, assuming that he is a competent physician. If there's a shortage of doctors, there's no reason to still rush through a patient just to get to the next one.

My mentality is all theoretical. This is me from the outside looking in and who knows if I'll make it that far. And if I do, technology, the government, and other external factors are definitely going to change healthcare so this mentality of mine may be an antiquated, obsolete one. But for now, it's my motivation.
 

Da_Funk

Well-Known Member
#30
^I suppose my view is biased. We have free health care here, so anyone who has anything wrong with them goes to the doctor and cries for pills. Imo, that is the worst way to treat the majority of ailments.

No, it's 4 years of college and 4 years of medical school. Then 1 year of internship and 4 years of residency to be a radiologist in Canada. Sometimes they waive the internship. That's 8 years of education and 5 more years of work/education. So that's 13 years if you're including the internship & residency as education. But since you're always learning as a doctor, or should be, you might as well include your whole career as education too.

In the US, it's 4 yrs college, 4 yrs medical school, 1 yr internship, 2 yrs residency. Some specialties require an extra 2-4 yrs schooling after residency.
Hmm, I've never looked into it personally. I took organic chem with a girl who wanted to do it and thats what she was telling me. Regardless, 13 years to do something I'm not passionate about. No thanks.
 

Pittsey

Knock, Knock...
Staff member
#31
I went to work at 18 as I didn't want to be a poor student. When I look back, I have a little regret I didn't stay in education longer.
 

hizzle?

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#32
I went to work at 18 as I didn't want to be a poor student. When I look back, I have a little regret I didn't stay in education longer.
Most of people are like that. I have a friend who dropped out of college the first week of school and never went back. It's been 6 years now and he's always saying that he regrets it...

On the other hand, I'm doing an MBA in Marketing now and I feel like I haven't done anything since I don't have my own place, I don't have a cool car, I don't have a 42'' plasma TV and so on.

All of your decisions have pros and cons...
 

THEV1LL4N

Well-Known Member
#33
so you must have heard about the rising tuition fees up to £9000 a year. if you want to go this route, find out the duration of your course because higher fees will be imposed in the next few years. it'll be worth it if you can get in while the fees are still at a lower rate.

i would consider my options though, but if the experience is what matters most (over financial commitments) i'd say go for it - you'll meet a lot of nice people along the way too.
 

masta247

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Staff member
#34
Well, it sucks to hear that university studies cost so much there.
Here university studies are free. Well, most of them because I have to pay for my studies but I'm an unusual case. Still there are a lot of people who decide to end their education after high school or even faster.
 

THEV1LL4N

Well-Known Member
#35
fees are currently and approximately £3500 - that'll see nearly a 300% increase. i would do anything for a free education. i dont think i'd take it for granted either because time is money and there's no point in wasting time IMO.
 

dilla

Trumpfan17 aka Coonie aka Dilla aka Tennis Dog
#37
People do a shit ton just to stay in college. I didn't realize this until I actually got to college. Some people work abnormal hours in a week and still take challenging classes and do well. Makes me feel like shit when I get frustrated after a few tries on a problem in class.

I don't know if England has the concept of community colleges. In the States, there is a social stigma attached to them, but if you're doing it to simply boost your credentials, a community college degree in psychology is not a bad idea.

Have you thought about simply buying a text book and just reading it whenever you get the free time? Whatever you want to know more about, something a teacher would be able to expand upon if you were in a class, you just search on the internet and probably will end up learning more about.

That's another route to go.
 

dilla

Trumpfan17 aka Coonie aka Dilla aka Tennis Dog
#39
Would you read some books? Then just borrow them from the library and there's your free ejumacation. But you meant a free attending college, which is not to be confused with "an education."
LMAO... so true.

I recently realized how much info the internet had. I used to search such frivolous things on the internet, usually pertaining to sports and games. Since I've been in college, I've made it a habit to search one new thing on the internet and learn as much as I can on it. Last week was a genetic disorder I had a question about from genetics class a year ago that turned from a two second search to a three hour reading session. This week was Jiddu Krishnamurthi, who was quoted in the beginning of one of Kno's (from Cunninglynguists) new songs.

The first line is great. I recommend listening to it:

But information is so readily available on the internet and/or books in the library it's a shame with all the time I spend on both that I haven't done this earlier.
 

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