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Casey

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#22
This was posted on another forum I visit.

It's a general music forum, and unlike hip-hop forums (which are almost always dominated by young, straight men, because hip-hop as a culture is largely both misogynistic and homophobic) has an equal amount of members from all parts of society.

By that I mean there are straight guys, gay guys, straight women, gay women, of all races, ages and backgrounds that post there. There's no discrimination of any kind there and compared to here (aside from maybe 15-20 people who I have a lot of respect for), the intelligence and maturity level is very high.

The person who posted this is a very truthful, no-hold-barred openly gay person who tells it like it is. And you'd probably all be VERY surprised at the things he says, especially when it comes to the music world and hip-hop.

Basically, the overly masculine guys, the muscular guys, the thugs, the guys that go out of the way to act "hard" - these are the ones engaging in the most gay activities. Which makes sense when you think about the fact that they obsess so much over their perceived "masculinity". If you weren't necessarily 100% comfortable with your sexuality, and furthermore were part of a culture that looks down on it, you'd try and act as tough as possible.

Anyway, this is just one thing on the subject out of many things this particular person has said in the past.

All that is true when it comes to closet queens. All of us, regardless of race, go through a closet period (usually during our teen years and 20s). Society hates gay people so much that we try to play it safe, get with women, and hope not to be hated...all while secretly wanting a dick. We usually don't go through a lot of women either because they aren't what we truly want but we get with them in order to gain acceptance from society.

But the guys I'm talking about (trade) are not turned on or attracted to a dick whatsoever. Pussy turns them on. However, a blowjob feels the same whether it comes from a woman or a man so they will let another man suck their dick. These are the type men that sleep with the drag queens also (while they are dressed in drag) because drag queens look like women. A gay guy would never sleep with a drag queen because they are attracted to dicks and masculinity.

You know how men are raping men in prison? Well, it's not the gay guys doing the raping, it's the trade. Trade are thugs, a queen wouldn't be able to force another man down and rape him (not the average ones anyway). Trade are the thugs that rape these men because no women are around to satisfy their urges so they just have to settle for a man. And when they get out of prison, they continue their behavior. A lot of them don't even have to go to prison to begin with. They may have been introduced to it by being seduced by some gay guy that said...."Let me suck your dick. It feels the same as if a woman did it and no one will ever find out". Have you ever heard a drag queen or gay guy say...."I only like straight men"? Well, those are the type guys I'm talking about but what these guys really are is trade because no real straight man fools around with a man. There just happens to be weak minded queens with no pride who will let those idiots believe they are straight but I ain't afraid to call the fuckers what they really are and it sure as hell ain't "straight".

But anyway, it's trade that are giving these women AIDS, not closet queens. Or for the weak minded stupid queens call them.... "a straight man that will fool around". Trade is attracted to pussy. In fact, they are probably attracted to it moreso than a straight man. The overly masculine man with the most women is usually trade. Trade has an extremely high sex drive so naturally they are going to have lots of women. And their sex drive is so high that if a woman isn't available, a man will do to suck their dick. I know it's confusing to the average straight person who has never been exposed to these men but it's a whole underground world that the straight world knows nothing about. The straight world in recent years, thinks they know and has started using the new term "downlow", but when a straight person thinks someone is downlow, it is usually a closet queen in reality and not trade. If a person looks feminine that's not downlow, that's a closet queen. Trade is more masculine than a straight man.

If you let another man suck your dick, you are just as gay as the one doing the sucking because a straight man does not do homosexual acts, period....whether it's giving or receiving.

I dropped those hypocritical bastards years ago and when I hear one of them say to me..."I'm straight but can you help me out"....and tell them "Hell no" because it's impossible for me to be gay all by myself. It takes two to tango.

Those same "straight men" getting their dicks sucked and fucking queens up the ass, are THE biggest gay bashers in the world. They think a gay man should be grateful that he let them suck his dick (which usually ain't all that to begin with). Many of them think that gay men owe them something. No honey, that's the other way around. We're the ones giving pleasure, not them.

It's that double standard that a straight person is above a gay person which is why those men don't even want to consider themselves as even a bisexual. But they do know in the back of their mind that they aren't straight. They brag about all their women with the other guys in public. Well, when they used to tell me they were straight, I used to ask them why they don't brag about all the men that have sucked their dick and see how many of those straight guys would think they are straight after hearing that. I saw one bastard I had been with in the mall one day from a distance. He was with some other thugs and when he saw me, you should have seen his ass trying to walk faster and turn the corner. He knew good and damn well I was going to bust his ass out. That don't seem like a "straight" man to me.
For the record, all of those comments were made in a thread about how Ray J (Brandy's brother) was supposedly one of these type of guys. Redman was another name mentioned, which I've heard about on a number of occasions.
 

S O F I

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#23
Ray J and Redman don't fit the "hard gangsta thug" description.

Also, WTF at this:

All of us, regardless of race, go through a closet period (usually during our teen years and 20s).
No I don't.
 

Flipmo

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#24
They don't fit the hard gangsta thug description, but they do fit the machismo/misogynistic essence HipHop tends to lend itself to. No?
 

Shadows

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#26
I like his theory on "Trade" in fact, i believe it to be true.


But I'm not sure about the whole gay shit causing aids.

Guys have anal sex w/ women a lot w/out a condom b/c they know they don't get pregnant that way. So, to blame it on trades only is kind of whack.
 

ill-matic

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#28
prince just comes across as a fag, with his ridiculous outfits, strange album covers, and high pitched voice.

this aint comin from a hater.

dont get so defensive. sheesh
 

S O F I

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#29
They don't fit the hard gangsta thug description, but they do fit the machismo/misogynistic essence HipHop tends to lend itself to. No?
Yeah but I'm just saying, Redman and Busta Rhymes never struck me as some homophobic, archetype heterosexuals. They seem eccentric and not really on the typical macho tip. Redman and Busta Rhymes don't fall into the "gangsta" rap category. Anyway, I'm just not too keen on the statement thrown around in these homosexuality debates which too often says that those who are the most homophobic are homosexual themselves. The theme has been explored in literature and film but I don't particularly believe in its validity. And when these closet homosexuals like Redman and Busta Rhymes get named, that doesn't really support the argument because they're not at the forefront of misogynistic, homophobic gangsta rap. Not that it matters, really, just saying. Now if Eminem were gay, a rapper with an abundance of homophobic lyrics, then that would be on some WTF SHIT.

Ray J does act like that. Haven't you seen him posturing and posing and flexing his muscles all the time?
I haven't particularly noticed but that just sounds gay to me, not hardcore thug.
 

Bobby Sands

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#30
^^Well Busta Rhymes did flip out because some gay dude tapped his shoulder and asked him for an autograph. He said he didnt like fags touching him or something like that.

and Casey you shouldnt just assume that Redman and Ray J are gay just because you have heard rumours or what someone told you. People who hate and have beef with those guys could have put that out there to damage their reputation or get at them. Just look at how Benzino tried to damage Eminem by making bullshit about him being gay.
 

Farzin

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#34
So 1 video of animal cruelty is supposed to justify being a vegetarian?

If you guys are swayed that easily I feel sorry for you.

You better not become friends with GITVIHC. It would turn out unpleasant unless you are into that sort of thing. Looking at you Sigh.
 

Stred

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#36
Watched the video, still doesn't put me off eating steaks or drinking a liter of milk a day. I'm more concerned about the psychopaths that work their.
 

Chronic

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#38
So 1 video of animal cruelty is supposed to justify being a vegetarian?
What does not eating meat have to do with abuse at a dairy farm? That's a rhetorical question.

Stred said:
I'm more concerned about the psychopaths that work their.
That's part of why I posted the video. There's more going on than just animal abuse.
 

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