11 year old girl dies of treatable diabetes....why?

[Casey]

'Put children's lives above dogma' by Trina Hoaks - Atheism Examiner - RichardDawkins.net

Because her parents decided, that instead of getting medical assistance, they would instead just "pray for her".

YEAH! Let's clasp our hands together and talk to a invisible being and maybe the perfectly treatable illness that our child has will MAGICALLY DISAPPEAR! Oh wait, now she's dead.

The parents have been locked up, but jail is too good for these people. Personally I would flip the script on them, by tying them to chairs so that they could not move, then placing those chairs 10 metres away from a big pile of food in a locked cabinet, with the key hanging on a piece of string 15 metres above their heads.

I would leave them there for 4 days, then return and say "I guess that if god wants you to survive, he'll undo those ropes and that key will untie itself and fall to the floor".

Then, when they passed out or fell asleep, I would cut down the key and undo their ropes. When they became conscious again, they would unlock the locked food cabinet, but there would be nothing inside except for a note that said:

"I was going to save you, but then I got hungry so I ate all the food. Yours sincerely, god"

Stupid fucking cunts.

The Freedom From Religion Foundation has issued an Action Alert to prompt people to help put children's lives above dogma. They bring up the case of the parents of an 11-year-old girl who was allowed to die of treatable diabetes because they opted to pray for her rather than seek medical help. FFRF's Action Alert follows:
The Wisconsin State Journal reported this week that the University of Wisconsin-Madison Law School has offered to represent Dale or Leilani Neumann of Weston, Wis., who allowed their 11-year-old daughter, Madeline "Kara" Neumann, to die of untreated diabetes in March 2008.The Neumanns failed to provide their obviously dying daughter with medical care, relying on faith and prayers. Kara's death was slow, painful, cruel and completely unnecessary. Had the Neumanns relied on insulin instead of God, Kara would be alive today.

The Neumanns were found guilty of second-degree reckless homicide by separate juries in 2009, and a judge doled out meager sentences. The unrepentent couple insisted publicly at their sentencing that it would have been "disobedience to God" to seek medical attention for their daughter. Before his sentencing, Dale Neumann read from the bible and said, “I am guilty of trusting my Lord’s wisdom completely. . . . Guilty of asking for heavenly intervention. Guilty of following Jesus Christ when the whole world does not understand. Guilty of obeying my God.”

Because of Wisconsin's "faith-healing exemption" law, it is believed the Neumanns have a good chance of overturning their convictions, thus sending a green light to faith-healing parents to deny health care to gravely ill children in the name of religion. The Neumanns, of course, have a right to try their appeal, but they are neither friendless nor without other avenues. There are plenty of Christian legal societies to represent them.

Why then would a public legal training institution consider lending its name and legal expertise to defend the right of parents to sacrifice children through medical neglect in the name in religion? The UW Law School's offer sends an unfortunate and cavalier political message at a time when attempt at true repeal of Wisconsin's faith-exemption law is stalled. Rather than offering legal representation to parents who place their belief in dogma over the lives of their own children, the UW Law School ought to be deploying law students to the State Capitol to lobby for overturn of Wisconsin's faith-healing exemption!

Please take a moment to demand justice for Madeline Kara Neumann. Any reasonable person knows that prayer is no substitute for medical care and faith is no excuse for medical negligence and reckless endangerment.

For maximum effectiveness, keep messages brief, civil and write as an individual and not as someone responding to this Action Alert. A short e-mail objecting to any action by the UW Law School which signals support for exemptions for negligent faith-healing parents (and signed with your name and address) is effective and sufficient.

Contact
Kenneth Davis
Dean of the Law School
Phone: 608-262-0962
kbdavis@wisc.edu

UW-Madison Chancellor Carolyn"Biddy" Martin
Phone: 608-262-9946
chancellor@news.wisc.edu

Media Contacts
(Remember to keep letters to the editor under 150 words and include your name, address and phone number).

Wisconsin State Journal
wsjopine@madison.com

Milwaukee Journal Sentinel
Letter to the Editor
P.O. Box 371
Milwaukee WI 53201
jsedit@journalsentinel.com

Read more about legal faith-health exemption debate.

 

[Flipmo]

"I was going to save you, but then I got hungry so I ate all the food. Yours sincerely, god"

lmfao.

 

[Casey]

The unrepentent couple insisted publicly at their sentencing that it would have been "disobedience to God" to seek medical attention for their daughter.

This is what angers me the most. This is what gives every single religious person a bad name because essentially you're accountable for whackjobs like these people.

OK, maybe not accountable - but MORE accountable than I am because you share something in common with them whereas I do not.

I say the same to my Muslim friends. I have some very close Muslim friends which may surprise some of you. Luckily they are intelligent enough to understand when I say they are more accountable for the extremists because they have something in common. They have a way to reach those people and try and educate them.

I had a religious whacko on another forum try and ask me if I held myself accountable for the bad things atheists do. It was hilarious and ridiculous. I explained to her that not believing in something isn't substantial enough to tie people together in a group, and it would be like trying to form a group out of people who don't watch football. There's no common interest there.

 

[Duke]

Murderers, that's what they are.

 

[Casey]

Murderers, that's what they are.

Exactly.

 

[Bobby Sands]

exactly

 

[vg4030]

I pray for the butt-fucking of thy parents

 

[Shadows]

ouch.

 

[Prize Gotti]

Religion aka Science for retards.

 

[The.Menace]

wow you really take that kind of serious.

 

[ARon]

This is sort of like that negro boy who died of a tooth infection that could have been taken care of for something like $100 dollars. No people willing to do good in that story. This one is just weird.

 

[ArtsyGirl]

Idiots. I disagree on your point about holding other religious people accountable for this, sure anyone who agreed or agrees with what they did.. But just because someone has common belief in God etc doesn't equal accountability.

 

[Bobby Sands]

^^i dont think many would tbf.

 

[Cooper]

People are fucking stupid.

I hate people.

 

[Jokerman]

negro boy

Wtf. Ok, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid.

 

[Little Skittle]

I go to Madison right now for school and this was a big story months ago. Surprised you guys are just hearing of this now. I don't want to read the article because I already know the story, but the couple got sentenced to like...1 month in jail every year for the next 6 years or some weird shit like that.

 

[Synful*Luv]

It's just like the Jehovas Witness.. there are a ton of medical procedures that they won't have done b/c it's against their god and their religion... it's fine if you as an adult want to believe nonsense at and put YOUR life in danger... but as a parent and being responsible for the life of someone else.. that's just wrong. How can they not understand that its wrong? SMH...

 

[S O F I]

I love lamp.

 

[Stred]

lmao @ your rant