Charlie sheen vs barrack obama !!!

tupac4li4e

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#3
ITS FAKE:

Nice read either way :D
Ok I will paste what came up as your response in my email alert......could you explain to me why you edited you rpost and deleted all that, and then replaced it with, "its fake" ?

in my email your reply..........

"I think this would have been with a better response rate if it was on 'words of wisdom'. This section is all about aimless talk :D (not to offend the regulars on here)

Wow, I can't believe he pulled that off. If they are indeed facts, I'd say he has a strong case. People need to know the truth, who else to deliver the truth than the man who preaches the message of hope?

I've no idea if Obama will do anything about it. Its about time that the truth of 9/11 came out. Ever since I started reading about the oddities behind it, I've been spooked that the nation could be manipulated about going into war. I remember watching Bush on TV saying, "You're either with us, or against us." I was shocked to see that he actually won a second term as President. What the f!@k were Americans thinking? (disclaimer: this is a totally uninformed comment)

The only thing that makes me doubt these conspiracy theories is that I doubt the American Government could have planned 9/11 just to go to war. If they wanted to bomb Iraq, Afghanistan or whatever country Americans have never heard about...........they could have just done so. There is no need to come up with such an intricate plan".


So whats up Kobe ?
 

tupac4li4e

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#4
But I will reply anyway.........

When you said you don't see how the Government could have planned 911 just for a war I started wonder if what you were saying was a joke or not, but it seems you were serious.

Apparently the plan was to go into iraq, take hold of the oil, move into afghasistan then take over the heroin production.

There was a 60 mintues episode I saw somewhere online, it was an Australian special on the troops in Afghan and how they were walking around, sorry, rather protecting the taliban while they worked their crops, and the soldier's response to a pretty obvious question was "its not our mission to worry about these people we are here only to secure the area" ......secure the area huh, what so the nobody disturbs the heroin production?

What a complete joke our government is, and the Australian, and English, we are all in bed with the queen and her elites. It's obvious when you realize that Geroge Bush is Queen Elizabeth's 13th cousin, bit of a conflict of interest, for our "free nation" wouldn't you think?
 

Sebastian

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#5
I dont really wanna go into all this but im bored so let me just respond to this particular part:

If they wanted to bomb Iraq, Afghanistan or whatever country Americans have never heard about...........they could have just done so. There is no need to come up with such an intricate plan
No, clearly not. Not even the USA could have just bombed Iraq without any "legitimate reason" (as in making it seem to be like there is one).
 

Kobe

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#6
At the bottom of the article, right at the end:

Author’s Note: What you have just read didn’t actually happen… yet.

This is an open letter to the President requesting a new investigation.

Charlie Sheen.
 

Kobe

Well-Known Member
#7
I dont really wanna go into all this but im bored so let me just respond to this particular part:



No, clearly not. Not even the USA could have just bombed Iraq without any "legitimate reason" (as in making it seem to be like there is one).
OK, you seem to have a better idea on what wages and international war. Please remember I'm not arguing.

The way I see it: the USA run this planet as we all know. If they went to war for no reason, which other country would stand up to them? Risk getting a nuclear bomb dropped on your country? Is it worth the risk or the lives?

I think the world would just watch and let them do what they wanted.
 

tupac4li4e

Active Member
#8
hahaha

At the bottom of the article, right at the end:

Author’s Note: What you have just read didn’t actually happen… yet.

This is an open letter to the President requesting a new investigation.

Charlie Sheen.
Hey Kobe, thanks for the quick reply, so yo actually thought Obama would have put himself in the line of fire like that ?

Hehehe, anyway, what I was asking about were the points raised by charlie, and what everyone thinks about them ?

I know alot of people just want to shut their eyes to the whole 911 incident, but it's not going to go away. The fact that the Twin towers were insured for billions shortly prior to the event is no coincidence, although they were only awarded 800 odd million, and just about 3,000 people dead. The poor guys lost out on heaps of money !

A pretty good read with references......

9-11 Research: Controlling Interests
 

Sebastian

Well-Known Member
#9
Well, lets take Iraq for example. The US wanted Germany (like every other country) to support them and send troops. Schröder, the chancellor at the time, said "no, we are not with you on this one" (actually this was one of the very few good things he did in his time being the chancellor). So did other countries as well, like France.

See, there are countries that raise their voices against the US if necessary. However, it doesnt mean that Germany and Co. try and defend Iraq with military help. Obviously not.

Furthermore, the chance of the US dropping a nuclear bomb on any country is practically zero (with Obama being in charge now).
 

Kobe

Well-Known Member
#10
When you said you don't see how the Government could have planned 911 just for a war I started wonder if what you were saying was a joke or not, but it seems you were serious.

Apparently the plan was to go into iraq, take hold of the oil, move into afghasistan then take over the heroin production.

There was a 60 mintues episode I saw somewhere online, it was an Australian special on the troops in Afghan and how they were walking around, sorry, rather protecting the taliban while they worked their crops, and the soldier's response to a pretty obvious question was "its not our mission to worry about these people we are here only to secure the area" ......secure the area huh, what so the nobody disturbs the heroin production?

What a complete joke our government is, and the Australian, and English, we are all in bed with the queen and her elites. It's obvious when you realize that Geroge Bush is Queen Elizabeth's 13th cousin, bit of a conflict of interest, for our "free nation" wouldn't you think?
I've watched these developments on TV too and it does fit in really well as a theory. Its there to see and as you put it, its definately a likely scenario.

For me, its just a personal belief (what keeps my sanity) that it was a major terrorist attack. I've seen people jump out of WTC, I've watched the plane slam into that building from 47 different angles at an incredible speed. I've heard the stories of how people watched their loved ones die on live TV.......I mean its a tragedy that makes me wonder how a Government could do this to its own people.


I've seen the footage of firemen saying there is a bomb in the WTC after the plane had hit. To me, that bomb explains how the WTC came down.

However, I know that at some point Cigarette Companies paid a team of doctors to publish a report that stated Cigarettes have no link to lung cancer. As much as we know the truth, someone will always dispel it somehow.

In the end we have to make our own decisions. With 9/11, I'm choosing to bury my head in the sand and imagine it wasn't a Government set up.
 

masta247

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Staff member
#11
The way I see it: the USA run this planet as we all know. If they went to war for no reason, which other country would stand up to them? Risk getting a nuclear bomb dropped on your country? Is it worth the risk or the lives?
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USA is not the ultimate earth's military power.

1. I bet even China itself could be a huuuge threat to the US. America knows that and they do everything to keep good relations with China. The Chinese are raised in a national pride which doesn't go along well with America.
Also European countries, Russia + their friends - I'd say they all have superior military.
There are also countries that are just waiting for a good opportunity to bomb the shit out of the USA just for the sake of it (e.g. North Korea).
After all America is in a bad situation. In addition if a few European countries (ex. Germany, France and England) decided to bomb another country (ex. Iran) it would be much easier for them and the risk of a counterstrike would be much smaller than if the bombing was performed by Americans.

2. If America did something stupid they would have half of the world against them, not a single country.
Taking Nato apart the US have no real friends (as opposed to most other countries). Most partnerships with the US have been established for economic and/or other gains.

3. You make it seem like America is the world's most important country which is not true.
 
#12
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OK, you seem to have a better idea on what wages and international war. Please remember I'm not arguing.

The way I see it: the USA run this planet as we all know. If they went to war for no reason, which other country would stand up to them? Risk getting a nuclear bomb dropped on your country? Is it worth the risk or the lives?

I think the world would just watch and let them do what they wanted.
I don't think the USA necessarily runs the this planet, but the people that are behind the US government are definately part of the world elite group that runs it.

See how those G-20 protestors were tear gassed ? Good on em for standing up and having thier say, all you poor police, and military fools, think you are all being noble men for your country, imagine when you find out you're are worthless pawns. Of course I don't think that anyone is worthless, but to the elite as it is pretty obvious, they hold no value to human life to gain what they want, how many people have already died in this fake ass war on terrorism, how much liberty have people given up for this crap, The feds can come into your house, without your knowledge and consent, bug the shit of of your place and be gone again before you get home......legally!

Yes, they can do this legally, with only a tip off from a neighbor or somthing as little as that. People gave up thier rights when they decided to back the Bush's and thier war, it's really very very sad. Now they want to bring in chips for complete control.

If somthing comes out about how good chips are in the future and the media starts talking up implants, run like the wind baby, run like the wind !
 

masta247

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Staff member
#15
Huh? If you compare the US military to any other country, of course they are the most advanced.
True if you mean their weapons. They utilize better air units, their infantry is slightly better armed etc. but that still doesn't give them the edge.
 

Sebastian

Well-Known Member
#16
Wow wow guys, stop.

Ultimate military power <- By this you mean the strongest, right? Technically most advanced, big troops bla bla...if thats the case, the answer remains the US, no?

And of course it doesnt mean they are not vulnerable. No need to point this out. Every idiot knows this. Well, not really, but close to everyone.
 
#17
American Military power

Jew Watch - Jewish Hate Hoaxes - 911 - World Trade Center - Hoax - Mossad - CIA - Text Documents

Off topic a bit but that is an interesting read on 911 and the new owner etc.

I would say america is definately at the top 3 of the food chain when it comes to technology and thier military.

I have read of laser and nuke sattelites they have orbiting earth and it's a bit frightening. With a sattelite weapon that is controlled from anywhere on earth, I am trying to figure out who could beat that ?

I have also read about "sattelites" creating weather patterns and so fourth, man the US must have some meeeeean secret weapons today if they already had anti gravity down in the 50's . Of course they are only tiny leaks we here about, but imagine the ones we don't hear about ! :*( *hides*
 

Kobe

Well-Known Member
#18
USA is not the ultimate earth's military power.

1. I bet even China itself could be a huuuge threat to the US. America knows that and they do everything to keep good relations with China. The Chinese are raised in a national pride which doesn't go along well with America.
Also European countries, Russia + their friends - I'd say they all have superior military.
There are also countries that are just waiting for a good opportunity to bomb the shit out of the USA just for the sake of it (e.g. North Korea).
After all America is in a bad situation. In addition if a few European countries (ex. Germany, France and England) decided to bomb another country (ex. Iran) it would be much easier for them and the risk of a counterstrike would be much smaller than if the bombing was performed by Americans.

2. If America did something stupid they would have half of the world against them, not a single country.
Taking Nato apart the US have no real friends (as opposed to most other countries). Most partnerships with the US have been established for economic and/or other gains.

3. You make it seem like America is the world's most important country which is not true.
Yes, China are a huge threat and we all know they are rising to the top. They aren't there yet but they will get there eventually. They are doing good things in my country and are at the same time flooding the market with counterfeit goods :D However in terms of Military, USA have it all and no other country matches up to them in this department.

USA runs this town. If you wanna knock them off for military might, think of how many things you do in one day that scream back USA to you. Until one country rivals Hollywood, Pop Music or Coca-cola, or we stop making keyboards with the $ key on them, I'll say USA got it all under control.

I don't like the fact that we have a most important country in the world but sadly, the USA is the most important country in the world. Whether we like it or not. That's why travelling by plane isn't a joy anymore. We can't even carry drinks on to a plane anymore because the USA said we can't do it :D
 

masta247

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Staff member
#19
Wow wow guys, stop.

Ultimate military power <- By this you mean the strongest, right? Technically most advanced, big troops bla bla...if thats the case, the answer remains the US, no?

And of course it doesnt mean they are not vulnerable. No need to point this out. Every idiot knows this. Well, not really, but close to everyone.
Well, for example in China each year 10,760,380 men reach the military age (there are military trainings and they are ready to serve their country)
At every moment the People's Liberation Army itself has 2,5 million active soldiers.

Size of the whole United States Army is slightly above 1 million people.

I think as far as the nuclear arsenal goes it's safe to say that both could destroy every country in the world at least a few times.

So I wouldn't say that the American army is the best one.
 
#20
oh yeah....

almost forgot, has anyone heard the DNA specific bombs they may be working on?

They want to deploy bombs to target specific races, meaning in a crowd of 1000 people if they had a "asian bomb" and fired it into the crowd, all the people that had asian genes would die, but everyone else would be fine, how crazy ass is that !?

Wouldnt put it pass them either, with all this new nano technology they have, which by the way they probably would of had like 20yrs ago, but we would be only first hearing it mainstream many years later.
 

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