Would 2pacs material have been better off if left with Deathrow?

[CoolWaterz]

I mean from the time they released the greatest hits album to a few years ago before they went bankrupt...I mean the greatest hits album had CLASSICS like troublesome, unconditional love...Deathrow KEPT all these in their OG format and Im sure would have continued to chalk up the money to get the samples cleared like they did before. And to be honest, you could say "yea but suge would have never released anything like he doesnt with any other artists" but SO WHAT...at this point honestly, a CD every 3 years or so would have been better off. People would have taken the albums seriously still...it wouldnt have been generic, trendy bullshit like AMaru spits out every year and chances are, most songs would be in their original.

I just get sad seeing 2pac albums turning into jokes. I mean, this cd is AWFUL man...why dont some of you get it...this isnt the 90s anymore. People arent going to buy albums for 1 good track like they used to before you could just download an entire album. The quality is garbage. Im shocked to say that Justin Timberlake's album sold like 250,000 units in its first week...and not just to teeny boppers but a lot of hiphop heads got that album.. Compare Timbalands production on an album like that to this awful generic garbage. And dont think for one second all these lame rappers and rnb singers were put on this album for fans like US. they were put on there for the same fans who would buy timberlakes album.

dead artists still sell...look at kurt cobain and elvis. Its all about quality. Amaru thinks its about quanitity...getting these songs out asap with as many "hot rappers of today" as possible..they wanna make as much money as fast at they can which is why the brilliant assfuck behind the desk says "lets get TI on this track because hes hot right now" just like last year it was 50 cent. They wana make money yet they wont pay up the cash necessary to clear the samples needed to keep the songs in OG form.. I really think 2pacs material would have been better if kept with Deathrow. Even if it didnt see the light of day, and i only had the downloads...at least 2pac's credibility as an artist post-death would have never been challenged.

 

[PELLA]

if Suge Knight wasnt in charge, then yes. Meaning that 213 and DPG and them would still be coo' with Death Row, then most definately.

 

[CoolWaterz]

Could you imagine if Amaru remixed Unconditional Love, How long will you mourn me, Troublesome or FUCKING CHANGES??!!! ANd you are damn right Amaru would have never cleared the sample to Changes. Just imagine..Changes was arguably one of 2pacs biggest hits DUE to the fact it was untouched. The greatest hits album was released off deathrow correct? They left the OG's and that is why it was SUCH a huge success when released.

Even the Chronic 2000 album kept the gem "Who do you believe in" in its OG form. And then you have AMaru who had the audacity to remix songs that could have been beautiful classics such as things are changing, when thugs cry, playa cards right, lil homies, friends...I mean just imagine how amazing these songs could have been and how much more credibility it would have gotten a posthumous 2pac album. Noone, die hard fan or not, respects the fact that 2pac albums are littered with artists like 50 cent, TI, and whoever the fuck else i cant think of right now..People see through this crap. Its turned into a gimmick more than an album. ITs lame. Its made a mockery of 2pacs unreleased work. I hate the fact that i havent bought a 2pac in years with the exception of better days because i just dont like them, i dont have any desire to bump them in my car....and if i feel that way, imagine what ur average run of the mill fan must feel.

 

[2PacThug4Life]

Could you imagine if Amaru remixed Unconditional Love, How long will you mourn me, Troublesome or FUCKING CHANGES??!!! ANd you are damn right Amaru would have never cleared the sample to Changes. Just imagine..Changes was arguably one of 2pacs biggest hits DUE to the fact it was untouched. The greatest hits album was released off deathrow correct? They left the OG's and that is why it was SUCH a huge success when released.

Even the Chronic 2000 album kept the gem "Who do you believe in" in its OG form. And then you have AMaru who had the audacity to remix songs that could have been beautiful classics such as things are changing, when thugs cry, playa cards right, lil homies, friends...I mean just imagine how amazing these songs could have been and how much more credibility it would have gotten a posthumous 2pac album. Noone, die hard fan or not, respects the fact that 2pac albums are littered with artists like 50 cent, TI, and whoever the fuck else i cant think of right now..People see through this crap. Its turned into a gimmick more than an album. ITs lame. Its made a mockery of 2pacs unreleased work. I hate the fact that i havent bought a 2pac in years with the exception of better days because i just dont like them, i dont have any desire to bump them in my car....and if i feel that way, imagine what ur average run of the mill fan must feel.

Changes isn't in OG form.

I don't see how DR could've done worse than LTTG, so, sure, I'd say yeah.

 

[CAPO'01]

i'm pretty sure the released version of changes is not the original version. the OG isn't leaked as far as i know but i've heard that the OG doesn't use the same sample and that it has a very different tone to it. i've heard that it doesn't carry the same uplifting tone to it but that's all based on hearsay. but yes you do have some points to your argument. but had deathrow remained in control then nothing probably would've been released. imo the albums should've been joint ventures between both amaru and deathrow like greatest hits, still i rise, uteot, and better dayz all were. those albums were at least decent but that's worlds more than i can say about loyal to the game and now pac's life. i know that amaru's people didn't mesh well with deathrow's people and that's why they aren't doing anymore joint ventures but i wish they'd reconsider...

 

[WordzAfter]

i think Pacs work should still be with deathrow period..

 

[KAMIKAZI]

Could you imagine if Amaru remixed Unconditional Love, How long will you mourn me, Troublesome or FUCKING CHANGES??!!! ANd you are damn right Amaru would have never cleared the sample to Changes. Just imagine..Changes was arguably one of 2pacs biggest hits DUE to the fact it was untouched. The greatest hits album was released off deathrow correct? They left the OG's and that is why it was SUCH a huge success when released.

Even the Chronic 2000 album kept the gem "Who do you believe in" in its OG form. And then you have AMaru who had the audacity to remix songs that could have been beautiful classics such as things are changing, when thugs cry, playa cards right, lil homies, friends...I mean just imagine how amazing these songs could have been and how much more credibility it would have gotten a posthumous 2pac album. Noone, die hard fan or not, respects the fact that 2pac albums are littered with artists like 50 cent, TI, and whoever the fuck else i cant think of right now..People see through this crap. Its turned into a gimmick more than an album. ITs lame. Its made a mockery of 2pacs unreleased work. I hate the fact that i havent bought a 2pac in years with the exception of better days because i just dont like them, i dont have any desire to bump them in my car....and if i feel that way, imagine what ur average run of the mill fan must feel.

Changes wasn't released in it's original form. The original uses the same sample but has a less poppish vibe.

 

[CoolWaterz]

Changes isn't in OG form.

I don't see how DR could've done worse than LTTG, so, sure, I'd say yeah.

are u sure about that? I read that E40 who used that sample as well,said he was inspired to make his single, which came out a long time before Changes came out, after he heard 2pac's song.

 

[DeeezNuuuts83]

Death Row definitely would've either left the songs in OG form or in some sort of OG vibe (kind of like what they did with Friends on the Too Gangsta 4 Radio compilation). Just look at most of the Death Row releases of older music... Snoop's Dead Man Walkin, the unreleased songs from Snoop's Greatest Hits and Dogg Pound's 2002 were OG or near OG for the most part. Or if they were remixed, it wasn't remixed to the point where it bothered me. While Death Row wouldn't immediately release Pac's softer stuff (as they like to release more hard shit), it's better than Amaru trying to bury a lot of Pac's angry shit or water his songs down with gay ass beats for the sake of sounding modern. And it's not like Death Row would never release the soft stuff anyway; Suge wants to make money, and if he had control he would release them all eventually and keep his cashflow steady.

If Suge and Death Row had retained control, we wouldn't have some bullshit like Loyal to the Game or Pac's Life; we would probably have some sort of Makaveli II album and we all probably would've heard Watch Ya Mouth by now. At the same time, we probably would've heard a few more remixed tracks by Tha Row Hitters than we'd like, plus you'd probably see some no-name Death Row rappers replacing certain rappers on some songs dissing Dre and Snoop or something. But hey, it's better than hearing Young Noble and Kastro all the time.

 

[2PacThug4Life]

are u sure about that? I read that E40 who used that sample as well,said he was inspired to make his single, which came out a long time before Changes came out, after he heard 2pac's song.

Read KAMIKAZI's post.

 

[Frantic]

Nu-mixx was great

 

[THA_DAN]

^are u serious?

 

[KO]

I think Nu Mixx Klassikz or however they spelled it, proves that it WOULD NOT of been better left off with deathrow

 

[Rukas]

Nu Mixxes was MEANT to be a remix CD. I think had Death Row retained some sort of control we'd have gotten better music, less but better, more how Pac recorded.

Like everyone said, look at their track record.

Even when they fought with Amaru over control of albums we still got better CDs such as SIR, UTEOT and BD. As soon as Amaru got total control we got trash like LTTG and PL.

 

[THA_DAN]

Even when they fought with Amaru over control of albums we still got better CDs such as SIR, UTEOT and BD. As soon as Amaru got total control we got trash like LTTG and PL.

gotta agree with this. hence why i'm worried about the future of pac's music, but at least as i said there are some tracks on this new album way better than anything released since better dayz, which is a thin ray of hope.

 

[WayCide-Ridah]

LTTG was trash, this new album looks to be the same shit, different year...I mean come on, how long are they gonna destroy Pac's Image wit bubblegum bullshit...I've bought 7 day theory atleast 15 times...either cuz my last one would be too scratched or someone would steal it or would borrow it n' never bring it back...compared to LTTG which I will not buy N' will never bump to....now Pac's Life, I'll wait till I hear a quality tracc b4 I even think of buying this sad attempt of a Pac album....damn, why??

 

[Local Star]

Free Tupac.

 

[rshiplett21]

gotta agree with this. hence why i'm worried about the future of pac's music, but at least as i said there are some tracks on this new album way better than anything released since better dayz, which is a thin ray of hope.

agreed but i still givem a E lol... for effort

 

[Makaveli2k4]

Deathrow would make 2pac better because Suge was in the studio with pac so he kinda felt how pac wanted his music to be release.

 

[absinthe`]

There are alot of OG"s that sucked and some that had samples that wouldn't have cleared and would of had to been remixed. And Nu Mixx Calssics was Death Row at it's finest remixing.... that scares me. Yes, alot of songs would probably been released OG. But the songs they would of had to remixed would have completey sucked and you know half the OG's and remixes they did would have no name loser newcomer Death Row rappers in them.