UK Riots

vg4030

Well-Known Member
#1
I figures there should be a thread about this.



I was going to call it London riots but it seems to have spread around a bit :(

How is everyone doing in the UK? A lot of my friends are caught up in the middle of this and live near the areas that are hit
 

Flipmo

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#2
To be honest, I feel like our news hasn't been covering the riots as much as they've been covering the AA+ and subsequent small market crash... According to Casey it had spread to Birmingham as well.
 

dilla

Trumpfan17 aka Coonie aka Dilla aka Tennis Dog
#7
There's one person in Birmingham I wouldn't mind seeing dead. Otherwise, I hope that shit ends this second because it's absolutely unnecessary.

If I'm not wrong, this is stemming from a racially charged incident of a black father being shot, right?
 

Pittsey

Knock, Knock...
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#8
It's seriously fucking me off.

Town centres are shut. Old Bill everywhere. My mum works up the city and is commuting, hopefully won't get caught up in it. But knowing British Rail all the trains will stop and she'll be stranded.

Started in the predominantly black areas, which if I am honest, I couldn't really give a fuck about. If they want to smash up Tottenham, go ahead, you have to live there. Same applies to Hackney or any other shit hole. But now they seem to have realised they can loot nicer shops in nicer areas. SO are moving closer to me... Now I am really pissed off. I was annoyed before, because it isn't politically motivated and is all about stealing. But the closer it gets to me the more annoyed I am.

Did anyone else see them robbing people in the street, even for their clothes?

Sums up the mentality and morality of those involved.

If I'm not wrong, this is stemming from a racially charged incident of a black father being shot, right?
Basically, an alleged gangstar, apparently shot at police when they were trying to arrest him. Police returned fire and killed him. But this is all press reports, the family says different. The Police haven't actually commented.
300 of the people on his estate (read Ghetto slum, shit hole) went to a police station to protest. Started getting out of hand, things set on fire and smashed up. Allegedly, Again, started when the police went heavy handed on a young girl.
People started looting. Opportunists saw the free stuff. More robbing and arson everywhere. All the scum are joining in now, and we need to shoot some of the cunts to regain order. But Britain doesn't like to involve the army, water canons or rubber bullets. I personally would like to see them smashed the fuck up.
 

Flipmo

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#9
You know, smashing stores and looting them is one thing, but once you start burning down peoples houses, or robbing innocent people (to the point where you're taking the clothes on their bodies?!) it becomes a whole different thing. I'd understand if this was against some great social injustice and people rioting for political change (which might have some initial influence on the rioting), but at this point, it has just become Vancouver times 20.

British authorities might use plastic bullets to quell rioting that has swept the city for a third night and spread to other cities, a senior London police officer says.
Such bullets are "one of tactics" being considered, Deputy Assistant Commissioner Stephen Kavanagh said Tuesday. Plastic bullets have never been used before during British disturbances.

Kavanagh's comments come as British Prime Minister David Cameron vowed Tuesday to do everything necessary to restore order and punish those responsible for the violent riots.
Cameron cut short his holidays to return to London to address the worst rioting in the country in decades, saying he will boost police presence to 16,000 officers from 6,000 by Tuesday night, and warning that the culprits "will feel the full force of the law.
"This is criminality, pure and simple," Cameron said outside 10 Downing Street, "and a strong warning to those involved in rioting that they will face full the force of the law, no matter how young they are.

"If you are old enough to commit these crimes, you are old enough to face the punishment," he added. "You are not only wrecking the lives of others and ... your communities, you are potentially wrecking your own life too."
Got your wish Pittsey. lol
 

Pittsey

Knock, Knock...
Staff member
#10
My local high street is boarded up. If it kicks off I'm tempted to grab my dad's gun and go down there firing shots in the air. But I'm pretty sure, no in fact, it's definite, I'd be the one nicked.
 

Prize Gotti

Boots N Cats
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#13
Theres been rumors that they plan to riot in my city tonight. Dunno if it will actually happen.

But what Pitts said is "why we think the police shot him", but the police refuse to comment because they know they fucked up. Alot of people believe they tried to assasinate a gangster and got the wrong person, killing an innocent father.

What the police don't realise is that if they admitted they fucked up big time, the violence wouldn't have escalated to this level. People wanted answers, the Police refused to give them answers, so the people retaliated.

While some of the rioters, especially those outside London are oppertunists thinking this is all fun, alot of them, as Casey said in his blog, have nothing because they got fucked over by the system, and these people have had enough.

We're reaching a point in society where we no longer want to stand by and watch our governments fuck us over, so people are fighting back.
 

vg4030

Well-Known Member
#14
^ These people are a bunch of fucking hypocrites.

I dont understand how they think they got fucked over by the 'system' The fact they are rioting in the middle of the day suggests they dont have jobs. Where are their parents, maybe they are the ones who fucked them up?

I didnt see these same people protesting when that kid shot a man dead in the off license? I dont see them 'rising' up against knife crime, which is perpetuated mostly by blacks in London?

I understand the point of the peaceful march to get answers from the police, but those people are LONG gone. All thats left are these fucking cunts

Also, Why dont they 'attack' government buildings? Just a bunch of pussies going for soft targets
 

dilla

Trumpfan17 aka Coonie aka Dilla aka Tennis Dog
#16
I hope my beautiful town of Barnsley is safe. Wouldn't want that extravagant town to be burned down.
 

Flipmo

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#17
Maybe it's just my family history that makes me look at these so called protests against the government and think these people can't riot for shit. If you want change you don't fucking trash your own neighborhoods and attack innocent bystanders. You head for government buildings, you focus on putting pressure onto the Government. That's how you make change happen, you make sure the media sees people rallying and protesting at the parliament or whatever. You coordinate people to have massive demonstrations at government buildings with BBM, not coordinate attacks on t-Mobile shops and flipping luxury cars. or terrorizing women and children.

Not saying there aren't people who are there for legit reasons and using their right to protest seriously and nothing but respect to them, but what the world sees now is not people who are fed up with their government, they just see kids wanting to pick up an S2 and flat screen TVs at 5-finger discount.
Either way, people riot for any shit nowadays anyways, everyone is a self entitled jack-off. Seen it over and over again, mofos are jobless, yet they don't want to take jobs because it's "below them". Try being a University professor, not being paid for 4 months, and having to resort to picking trash to sell as a way to feed your kids. That's the situation in Croatia for at least 15-20% of the population, yet they don't burn their cities to the ground.

/mindless rant
 

Prize Gotti

Boots N Cats
Staff member
#18
Most of it is being aimed at the Police, not the public. They're commiting these crimes to show that they won't bow down to our corrupt Police force. The Police here harass innocent people daily, and frame innocent people for crimes they haven't commited. Police here don't return stolen property if they can avoid it, they sell it for profit. The biggest drug dealers are the Police themselves, so they can put it back on the streets so they can arrest more people.

The general public has no money, we're raped by taxes and have to scrape the ground to survive, while the government, police and corperate business owners sit back and laugh it up. Thats why they are attacking businesses.

What Flipmo said about people not having jobs because its "below them" is bullshit. People don't have jobs for 2 reasons. There are either no jobs, which I had to deal with myself last year, took me 11 months before I could finally get a new job, and I have experience and qualifications, most people can't afford to have a university education. Or the jobs that are available will actually make people poorer than they are without a job. And trust me, if you haven't got a job here, you're fucking poor, you get £45-60 a week to pay for bills, food and transport, if you rent, you can get help, but if you own your own home, you're fucked.

Pay is low here, but costs are stupidly high. Americans complain about the cost of living there. The average wage there is double what it is here, yet everything in America is half the price it is here. $4 for a gallon of gas for your car? That sounds like fucking heaven compared to the $10 (£6, but oil is sold in USD) we have to pay. Try living in a country with a 20% after sales tax when you have fuck all money to your name, with or without a job.

I'm not supporting these people or their actions, but not everything is as black and white as it seems.
 

Pittsey

Knock, Knock...
Staff member
#19
Theres been rumors that they plan to riot in my city tonight. Dunno if it will actually happen.

But what Pitts said is "why we think the police shot him", but the police refuse to comment because they know they fucked up. Alot of people believe they tried to assasinate a gangster and got the wrong person, killing an innocent father.

What the police don't realise is that if they admitted they fucked up big time, the violence wouldn't have escalated to this level. People wanted answers, the Police refused to give them answers, so the people retaliated.

While some of the rioters, especially those outside London are oppertunists thinking this is all fun, alot of them, as Casey said in his blog, have nothing because they got fucked over by the system, and these people have had enough.

We're reaching a point in society where we no longer want to stand by and watch our governments fuck us over, so people are fighting back.
I'm glad I didn't read Casey's blog then. I am pissed off enough already.

One word. Bullshit.

Even if this guy was innocent. Which I very, very much doubt. These people are all about looting and fucking shit up for their own enjoyment. This isn't a protest, and won't change the system. It's retards on the social, who don't give a fuck about the country. Most of them are an embarrassment to their communities. The people who will have to pay for this, are the hard working Londoners like myself. My taxes will go up. These scum fucks don't care because they are on the dole. They get money for free. From people like me. Maybe I should kick their doors in and get "my taxes back".

These people haven't been fucked over by the system. Melodramatic bullshit. It's called society. If you dick around all day and take drugs, you won't get a job. It's not the systems fault. It's because you are a fucking loser. It's not because of your ethnicity, it's because you are a cock. I got pulled over in my teens when driving several times a month, I'm not black so didn't claim racism. But at the time I felt victimised. Looking back I realise it was because I was doing something I shouldn't have done. I'm not saying racial profiling doesn't exists... It does... Has this rioting helped with it? No. People are out fitting the profile, so this is actually working against the cause of the ethnic minorities who came here with the intention of adding to the greatness (it used to be) if this country and who are proud to call it home.

There are tons of jobs in London. People come from all other the world to work here. It's a bullshit excuse used by the lazy.

Fuck them. I hope they all get shot.


Most of it is being aimed at the Police, not the public. They're commiting these crimes to show that they won't bow down to our corrupt Police force. The Police here harass innocent people daily, and frame innocent people for crimes they haven't commited. Police here don't return stolen property if they can avoid it, they sell it for profit. The biggest drug dealers are the Police themselves, so they can put it back on the streets so they can arrest more people.

The general public has no money, we're raped by taxes and have to scrape the ground to survive, while the government, police and corperate business owners sit back and laugh it up. Thats why they are attacking businesses.

What Flipmo said about people not having jobs because its "below them" is bullshit. People don't have jobs for 2 reasons. There are either no jobs, which I had to deal with myself last year, took me 11 months before I could finally get a new job, and I have experience and qualifications, most people can't afford to have a university education. Or the jobs that are available will actually make people poorer than they are without a job. And trust me, if you haven't got a job here, you're fucking poor, you get £45-60 a week to pay for bills, food and transport, if you rent, you can get help, but if you own your own home, you're fucked.

Pay is low here, but costs are stupidly high. Americans complain about the cost of living there. The average wage there is double what it is here, yet everything in America is half the price it is here. $4 for a gallon of gas for your car? That sounds like fucking heaven compared to the $10 (£6, but oil is sold in USD) we have to pay. Try living in a country with a 20% after sales tax when you have fuck all money to your name, with or without a job.

I'm not supporting these people or their actions, but not everything is as black and white as it seems.
When I was 17 I hung around with people like the dicks out rioting. All on the dole. You get your rent paid for. Which can be 1000's a month. You got at the time, £35 a week. And they also all used to go and get jobs on the side. It was good times. We spent the 2 week dole down the pub the same day.
The protest is fucked. It won't have any support, and any justifiable cause for the riot is lost. All people see is lazy scum fucks smashing up MY London. I am pissed off.
Almost as ridiculous is the rumours on facebook and twitter. Every landmark in a 100 mile radius has been burnt down at least twice.
 

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