"they Wonder If I'm Dead Or Alive"

[StillWESTAFRICA]

I wonder why nobody never brings this up. I've always talked about how "Strictly 4 my niggaz" album is one of Pac's albums with some of my favorite alive clues and this album was released in 1993. I know I haven't discussed the album in a while, but this quote is taken from track number 13 "The Streetz R Deathrow". In Pac's first verse, he gave what I've thought to be one of the best and most straight forward alive clues when he said :

"WAS I someone they despised? CURIOUS LOOK IN THEY EYES AS IF THEY WONDER IF I'M DEAD OR ALIVE"

^^^ One of the best alive clues given waay baack since 93, ahead of time before the plan was exhibited. What've y'all been doing? Sleeping? Wake up!!! Pac is talking about Y'ALL!!! He is talking about ALL THESE DEBATES, ALL THESE 2PAC DEAD OR ALIVE FORUMS, ALL THESE RUMORS!!!!

Notice that Pac says "WAS I" in reference to the PAST(before death), then he says that "THEY WONDER IF I AM". Now, I want to point out something here. Pac did not say "They wondered if I WAS dead or alive". He saying NOW "they wonder if I AM dead or alive". But he had refered to himself in the Past at first when he said, "WAS I someone they despised?"

The funny thing is that someone is always posting a thread everyday to find out everone's opinion about PAC BEING DEAD OR ALIVE, so why is it that when Pac tells you that there's a CURIOUS LOOK IN YOUR EYES AS IF YOU WONDER IF HE IS DEAD OR ALIVE you still try to refute it?

 

[Ma-k'av-"eli]

Pac not was plannning his departed back in 1993.

 

[raJic_d]

Yeah that is strange but i dont think it is something , its way to back , 93.
He did had it ruff then but he was about to become famous between 93-94 ( Earnin Cash $$ ) No big Enemies , he was getting a better life...
Why would he have a plan of death back then ?

 

[LIL_TIKE]

Maybe faking his death was always a dream of his.

"I'm seeing nothin but my dreams coming true, while I'm starin at the world through my rearview."

 

[Critikal]

West f'en Africa - they let you back on this virtuoso son of a bitch
lol the place was a lil' livelier with your 1993 alive theories and such...

 

[OxyContin]

WestAfrica is the only reason I view this part of the forum. Preach Nigga! Preach! we've got a lot of newbies on this board, and we need a motherfuckers like you to school these kids on the alive theories!

 

[yak pac fatal]

tell me why the hell 2pac wanted to fake his death in 93 come on now

 

[Kevsta2004]

How many times a day do they let westafrica out that mental asylum?

 

[yak pac fatal]

lol

 

[StillWESTAFRICA]

Maybe faking his death was always a dream of his.

"I'm seeing nothin but my dreams coming true, while I'm starin at the world through my rearview."

:thumb: :thumb: ^^^THAT'S THE ANSWER!!!

Some of these other cats think that Pac giving alive clues in 93 meant that Pac was tryin to fake his death in 93.

At the start of "Resurrection" movie, they play a clip of an interview in 93 with Pac saying, "THROUGHOUT MY LIFE I'VE ALWAYS WANTED TO BE LIKE AN ANGEL FOR GOD, TO BE OF SOME HELP....AND I CAN DO THIS, I'M AN ARTIST"

^^^I'm glad Pac did not say "since 1995 I've always wanted to be like an angel"!

 

[tupacmansion]

At the start of "Resurrection" movie, they play a clip of an interview in 93 with Pac saying, "THROUGHOUT MY LIFE I'VE ALWAYS WANTED TO BE LIKE AN ANGEL FOR GOD, TO BE OF SOME HELP....AND I CAN DO THIS, I'M AN ARTIST"
!

what has that got to do with Pac wanting to fake his death. Please explain

 

[StillWESTAFRICA]

what has that got to do with Pac wanting to fake his death. Please explain

It's pretty simple. He said that he's always wanted to be like an angel for God and to be of some help right? So you know that angels are sent by God on assignment right?

So that explains that Pac did what he did in order to reach his community like a thug angel. He's trying to help people change and help them grow.

In the same interview he said, "I'll spark the brain that will change the world" as one of the things he felt he had an assignment to do.

Did you notice at the start of the movie when Pac is telling you "I got shot" in reference to Vegas, then later he says, "I was suprised, but I'm happy, AND I'M REALLY GREATFUL TO GOD FOR ALL THAT I'VE GOTTEN TO DO"

^^^That goes right in line with what pac had said about BEING AN ANGEL FOR GOD at the very beginning of the movie right before the above statement.

It's no big deal. Why do you think that until the end of time chorus says, "CHANGE THESE BROKEN WINGS....come and heal me once again SO I CAN FLLLLY...TILL THE END OF TIME"?

But notice that Pac said, "I CAN DO THAT, I MEAN I'M AN ARTIST", and that is a statement I love so much because Pac is telling you about his poetic ability. It takes being an artist to be felt through records. It takes being an artist to be able to craft these alive clues through his lyrics. THAT IS ONE OF HIS VEHICLES FOR OPERATING AS AN ANGEL IN HIS PLAN. I've learnt a lot about Pac through the lyrics and controversies!

 

[tupacmansion]

Your theories are interestin, but to be honest they seem a bit far-fetched.
In relation to your last post, you say that Pac faked his death in order to reach his community. Would't he still be able to reach his community more effectively if he was alive. I mean people don't fake their deaths in order to spread their word and reach their communities.

 

[2PAC4LIFE2006]

k, i read some theroies about tupac planning To fake his death all the way back in 1993, as tupac talks about people thinking he is alive or dead.
now i came up with the following thoery

1. Tupac hires people to shoot him back in 1994 in order to get higher sales and be a real gangsta

now think about this: if tupac was set up by someone, why wasn't he killed on the spot?????
i mean, this guys already had him down, they could have head shot him easy!

2. Tupac takes the blame at biggie beacuse biggie copied tupac style and blames him 4 his own shooting

3. tupac makes a lot of songs in advance
4. tupac fakes his death, and tupac escapes on the 7th day, and afeni sahkur comes up with some lie
and says he is dead, while she and him make more moeny and Tupac gets out of the limelight!

People think: tupac had a lof enemies, he was probably was shot by 1 of his enemies, but tupac was smart and faked it

5. tupac faked his death dan killed biggie and acheived his goal in killing bigge, making money, and getting out of the limelight!

Tupac is alive! 2006! mark your calenders for tupac return

 

[Kevsta2004]

k, i read some theroies about tupac planning To fake his death all the way back in 1993, as tupac talks about people thinking he is alive or dead.
now i came up with the following thoery

1. Tupac hires people to shoot him back in 1994 in order to get higher sales and be a real gangsta

now think about this: if tupac was set up by someone, why wasn't he killed on the spot?????
i mean, this guys already had him down, they could have head shot him easy!

2. Tupac takes the blame at biggie beacuse biggie copied tupac style and blames him 4 his own shooting

3. tupac makes a lot of songs in advance
4. tupac fakes his death, and tupac escapes on the 7th day, and afeni sahkur comes up with some lie
and says he is dead, while she and him make more moeny and Tupac gets out of the limelight!

People think: tupac had a lof enemies, he was probably was shot by 1 of his enemies, but tupac was smart and faked it

5. tupac faked his death dan killed biggie and acheived his goal in killing bigge, making money, and getting out of the limelight!

Tupac is alive! 2006! mark your calenders for tupac return

To answer no 1. they didn't kill him because all they wanted was his masters :thumb:

 

[killahill187um]

blaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh

 

[lil_angelo]

man u disrepectin him dawg, pac is dead case closed non of your stupid theories are true and for the reocord pac was no gangsta

this shit reminds me of that theory of him returning in 2003, do you see him?

LOL, dumb motherfuckers can't you just take tha fact that he's gone

 

[Zero Cool]

I wonder why nobody never brings this up. I've always talked about how "Strictly 4 my niggaz" album is one of Pac's albums with some of my favorite alive clues and this album was released in 1993. I know I haven't discussed the album in a while, but this quote is taken from track number 13 "The Streetz R Deathrow". In Pac's first verse, he gave what I've thought to be one of the best and most straight forward alive clues when he said :

"WAS I someone they despised? CURIOUS LOOK IN THEY EYES AS IF THEY WONDER IF I'M DEAD OR ALIVE"

^^^ One of the best alive clues given waay baack since 93, ahead of time before the plan was exhibited. What've y'all been doing? Sleeping? Wake up!!! Pac is talking about Y'ALL!!! He is talking about ALL THESE DEBATES, ALL THESE 2PAC DEAD OR ALIVE FORUMS, ALL THESE RUMORS!!!!

Notice that Pac says "WAS I" in reference to the PAST(before death), then he says that "THEY WONDER IF I AM". Now, I want to point out something here. Pac did not say "They wondered if I WAS dead or alive". He saying NOW "they wonder if I AM dead or alive". But he had refered to himself in the Past at first when he said, "WAS I someone they despised?"

The funny thing is that someone is always posting a thread everyday to find out everone's opinion about PAC BEING DEAD OR ALIVE, so why is it that when Pac tells you that there's a CURIOUS LOOK IN YOUR EYES AS IF YOU WONDER IF HE IS DEAD OR ALIVE you still try to refute it?

 

[StillWESTAFRICA]

Your theories are interestin, but to be honest they seem a bit far-fetched.
In relation to your last post, you say that Pac faked his death in order to reach his community. Would't he still be able to reach his community more effectively if he was alive. I mean people don't fake their deaths in order to spread their word and reach their communities.

Good question, in fact I've got a topic called "2PAC DID NOT HAVE TO FAKE HIS DEATH TO LEAVE"

tupacmansion, the fact that you've asked this question shows that you do a lot of thinking which is good. Now you've asked a very good question in which the answer to that question is going to show you a new light in what 2pac did.

Now 2pac did not have to fake his death in order to leave the country. He could have just left the country without anyone knowing when, and just stayed away for so long, but see, all he'd get out of doing that would be news reports saying "2pac is missing". And that is not the main issue here. 2pac was not just trying to RUN, ESCAPE or LEAVE; The plan was waay deeper than that. And that is why some of those other alive theorists out there just get on my nerves. They think 2pac is playing a game of "hide and kill everybody". They don't get it.

Now, one thing that we must understand is that DEATH PLAYS AN IMPORTANT ROLE FOR 2PAC. And a lot of people don't understand this. It has a lot to do with FICTION. Now, you must realise that 2pac IS PAINTING A PICTURE OF A DEATH. It's deeper than just hiding in a cage. DEATH DRAWS ATTENTION TO A WHOLE LOT OF THINGS

Let me give you a good illustration. If you heard on the news that Wesley Snipes was missing, you'ld be like "damn, what happened to him?" and that would be it; you'ld keep waiting for the next news update on Wesley Snipes to find out if he's been found. But lets say the news had reported that Wesley Snipes died, the next thing that happens is that he starts to be all over the news. People start to talk about him, and then you start to hear more about his past. In other words, he starts getting talked about like a legend and there starts to be a whole lot of attention on his life like a LEGEND.

2pac painted a death for many reasons. RESURRECTION COMED AFTER DEATH. So Pac had to leave in form of a death. He died to his old self to be reborn as a new person. This is a BLACK JESUS theory. Jesus's death in the Bible was deeper than Jesus dying alone. jesus also died for all who would follow him. In fact, the Bible says that when you accept Jesus into your life you become born again by going through a spiritual death and resurrection with Christ. 2pac Borrowed from this.

Another reason 2pac died was to show what thugs were going through. You used his death as an example to show the violence that surrounds young niggaz in the streets. Hopefully people would learn from that picture.

Another reason was to be a legend. And draw attention on his life.

 

[Pac68]

for the last time WestAfrica next time you get high dont use your comp and get all these stupid ass fuckin ideas. He is dead live with it. He was the one always saying how only pussys fake their death, why would he? Would he even be Pac if he faked his death I meen common that would make everything he said a big fuckin lie!!! Just say goodbye even if it is sad.....

R.I.P. My nigga Pac