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almost 9 years, I pwn all of you except Rukas lol.
This is why you occasionally enjoy taking shots at me, right? I wouldn't say I'm a narcissist IRL but I can definately come across that way on the Internet sometimes.
What I think it is, is that the Internet magnifies your personality. I'm no more narcissistic just than most professional musicians because this industry shapes you that way. What else do you expect to happen when you're constantly posing for pictures, signing autographs and constantly trying to build a fanbase? That ultra-confidence and ultra-swagger is all part and parcel of this game - look at Lil Wayne for example. He ain't the biggest rapper in the game because he's any more talented than anyone else, it's all about how people see you.
I've seen people call Rukas arrogant before as well but I know from speaking to him on a personal level that we are very similar.
If you're slightly depressed individual, you can easily get portrayed as some suicidal emo cutter online. I'm sure Jokerman doesn't go around telling people the stories he writes on here IRL and I'm sure SOFI is not a complete cynical asshole all the time IRL either. it's just teh interwebz people, no big deal.
As for this thread and the original point of it, it's very possible to still do that. Disconnect your internet, sell your computer, sell your phone, do what you gotta do to make you happy. Yes maybe it would be cool for us to live in a time like the one you described, but it'd also be hella cool to live 1000 years from now when we're all super-intelligent and have bionic implants and shit. Just live your life to the FULL with what you have and how the world is and stop dreaming about "if things were this way" or "if things were that way", cos it won't get you anywhere.
One thing I'll tell you, there'll be no god or religion once humankind wisens up a little (or we find life on other planets, whatever happens first......watch them re-write that motherfucking bible and be all like "god created the world in six days, rested the seventh day.....then created some more worlds and some more life for the next few weeks"
This is why you occasionally enjoy taking shots at me, right? I wouldn't say I'm a narcissist IRL but I can definately come across that way on the Internet sometimes.
What I think it is, is that the Internet magnifies your personality. I'm no more narcissistic just than most professional musicians because this industry shapes you that way. What else do you expect to happen when you're constantly posing for pictures, signing autographs and constantly trying to build a fanbase? That ultra-confidence and ultra-swagger is all part and parcel of this game - look at Lil Wayne for example. He ain't the biggest rapper in the game because he's any more talented than anyone else, it's all about how people see you.
I've seen people call Rukas arrogant before as well but I know from speaking to him on a personal level that we are very similar.
If you're slightly depressed individual, you can easily get portrayed as some suicidal emo cutter online. I'm sure Jokerman doesn't go around telling people the stories he writes on here IRL and I'm sure SOFI is not a complete cynical asshole all the time IRL either. it's just teh interwebz people, no big deal.
As for this thread and the original point of it, it's very possible to still do that. Disconnect your internet, sell your computer, sell your phone, do what you gotta do to make you happy. Yes maybe it would be cool for us to live in a time like the one you described, but it'd also be hella cool to live 1000 years from now when we're all super-intelligent and have bionic implants and shit. Just live your life to the FULL with what you have and how the world is and stop dreaming about "if things were this way" or "if things were that way", cos it won't get you anywhere.
One thing I'll tell you, there'll be no god or religion once humankind wisens up a little (or we find life on other planets, whatever happens first......watch them re-write that motherfucking bible and be all like "god created the world in six days, rested the seventh day.....then created some more worlds and some more life for the next few weeks"
It's different for you and Rukas. You guys are artists and it comes with the territory. I'm sure if you guys were in any other profession say, a chartered accountant lol. You wouldn't be all up on Facebook or with bottles looking fly and shit wit debit/credit reports lol.
I was talking about everyday people so to say. Those that work at Subway then see them posing around like they own the world, that's narcissism. Aritsts, it's their everyday life. Cmon Casey, I'm sure there are times you're like: "Fuck, not another interview or crap...another fucking photoshoot" ... You're human like all the rest of us. So I agree with you for the most part on your post. I personally don't try and stay in the past, I try and work with what I have and am content with that, like most level minded individuals.
As for God, Aliens and religion... not sure what it has to do with Twitter LOL
I was talking about everyday people so to say. Those that work at Subway then see them posing around like they own the world, that's narcissism. Aritsts, it's their everyday life. Cmon Casey, I'm sure there are times you're like: "Fuck, not another interview or crap...another fucking photoshoot" ... You're human like all the rest of us. So I agree with you for the most part on your post. I personally don't try and stay in the past, I try and work with what I have and am content with that, like most level minded individuals.
As for God, Aliens and religion... not sure what it has to do with Twitter LOL
pretty much lol. I'm kinda glad you connected that, and i'm not patronizing.
very good point, completely agree. I think if there was any other professional musician that I would encounter on the internet as frequently as you, I'd probably start to hate them too lol.
and I especially like the fact that you understand Weezy's demeanor. People don't understand/not willing that the persona you put out there comes down to business, really.
very good point, completely agree. I think if there was any other professional musician that I would encounter on the internet as frequently as you, I'd probably start to hate them too lol.
and I especially like the fact that you understand Weezy's demeanor. People don't understand/not willing that the persona you put out there comes down to business, really.
Yeah I get what you mean. I guess I don't really know many people like that but if I did it would probably rub me the wrong way too. Since you guys go to university you probably see a lot of shit like that. Most of my interactions are with industry people, fans, and people I've known since high school, cos music is all I've done since I was 15.
Photoshoots aren't so bad. There's a lot of creativity to getting great photos, from both sides of the camera. Location, angles, positioning, look. Interviews though can be very frustrating when people ask you the same question you've answered a million times, or they haven't done any homework or background research. I don't understand those journalists that do that, it's like they're dead inside. I certainly wouldn't act like that if I was a journalist.
I like your use of the term "level minded". That's exactly what it is. No offense to the OP (was it masta?) but I can't help but think that people that fantasize to that level about living in different times or the whole infrastructure of the world being different must have very dull and unsatisfying lives.
There's no reason to live a dull life. Instead of wondering about things being different and vegetating, just make the move yourself and change your life. People might say "well it's easy for you to say, you get to travel to all these different countries and perform and be a rockstar and blah blah blah blah blah", but I made that choice and worked hard and continue to work hard in order to live the lifestyle that I want to live! Ain't shit for free in this life, you want something bad enough, then you do whatever you can to make it happen.
It really irks me when people complain about their uninteresting lives, when they have the capacity to do something about it.
I don't know either, I was on a roll. lol.
Photoshoots aren't so bad. There's a lot of creativity to getting great photos, from both sides of the camera. Location, angles, positioning, look. Interviews though can be very frustrating when people ask you the same question you've answered a million times, or they haven't done any homework or background research. I don't understand those journalists that do that, it's like they're dead inside. I certainly wouldn't act like that if I was a journalist.
I like your use of the term "level minded". That's exactly what it is. No offense to the OP (was it masta?) but I can't help but think that people that fantasize to that level about living in different times or the whole infrastructure of the world being different must have very dull and unsatisfying lives.
There's no reason to live a dull life. Instead of wondering about things being different and vegetating, just make the move yourself and change your life. People might say "well it's easy for you to say, you get to travel to all these different countries and perform and be a rockstar and blah blah blah blah blah", but I made that choice and worked hard and continue to work hard in order to live the lifestyle that I want to live! Ain't shit for free in this life, you want something bad enough, then you do whatever you can to make it happen.
It really irks me when people complain about their uninteresting lives, when they have the capacity to do something about it.
I don't know either, I was on a roll. lol.
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Jon LaJoie. lol.
As for living in other times. I can see the appeal of it. I dunno about you, but the 60s seemed to be pretty awesome. Also, if the Disco years were still around, I'd get my platform shoes and rock out with my cock out.
I don't see nothing wrong with imagining where your life would be like in a different era, as long as you're able to come back down from your cloud and live your life, happily.
As for University kids acting like their shit don't stink. Believe me, they're everywhere, it really makes me wonder about a lot of them. Especially the ones that write 8 page essays and don't use any punctuation and points...... :weird:
Edit: Old people burning, old people burning! Put your hands up!!
As for living in other times. I can see the appeal of it. I dunno about you, but the 60s seemed to be pretty awesome. Also, if the Disco years were still around, I'd get my platform shoes and rock out with my cock out.
I don't see nothing wrong with imagining where your life would be like in a different era, as long as you're able to come back down from your cloud and live your life, happily.
As for University kids acting like their shit don't stink. Believe me, they're everywhere, it really makes me wonder about a lot of them. Especially the ones that write 8 page essays and don't use any punctuation and points...... :weird:
Edit: Old people burning, old people burning! Put your hands up!!
Yeah. I'm secure enough with the person I am and where I'm at with my career to have a sense of objectivity and see things for what they are.
There is no point attempting to cultivate any sort of persona if you can't step outside of it and understand the different ways that other people will see you and react to the things you say and do. Otherwise you're just making random stabs in the dark when you could be calculating every step to achieve the desired outcome. The most successful people, not just in music, but in many fields, are often the people that can understand every decision they make and the potential outcomes like a game of chess, but yet appear to be doing the exact opposite.
This is why Weezy is a genius. He completely understands this. The public see a reckless, drawling thug superstar who apparently seems to give less than a fuck about anything and is the quintessential "rebel without a cause". That is a marketing person's dream, and it's been that way since James Dean. But what I see, is an intelligent businessman who is acutely aware of the image he portrays and projects it to god-like proportions so that no matter how hard the scorn or criticism, it just bounces off him.
The most stunning example of this for me is the fact that there's a circulating picture of him in what appears to be a homosexual embrace, and even as a participant in one of the most homophobic music genres to ever exist..........nobody gives a fuck. (except people who were already looking for a reason to hate on him).
I totally get Wayne. And I totally get the people who don't get him, too. They're usually the slightly insecure ones who cling to past era's of hip-hop because it helped them shape an identity and find it hard to accept that life and art moves on and won't go back to how it was. It's kind of like the people in the 1990's who still wore Mohawks and leather jackets with safety pins, and only listened to the Sex Pistols and The Ramones, despite the fact weren't old enough to even really remember the punk era. These people don't consider bands like Green Day to be "real punk" just as these hip-hop heads would say that Wayne isn't "real hip-hop". I'm not bashing those type of people or calling them out. I have friends who are very much like that. It just interests me when people cling to the past and complain that things aren't what they used to be. It's like they've gotten old before their time when most of them are only in the 20's. I sometimes wonder whether they are afraid to live in the present. If any of you guys are reading this and feel that this applies to you, I'd love to hear your take on it.
Anyway this is turning into another epic post so I'll quit while I'm ahead.
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There is no point attempting to cultivate any sort of persona if you can't step outside of it and understand the different ways that other people will see you and react to the things you say and do. Otherwise you're just making random stabs in the dark when you could be calculating every step to achieve the desired outcome. The most successful people, not just in music, but in many fields, are often the people that can understand every decision they make and the potential outcomes like a game of chess, but yet appear to be doing the exact opposite.
This is why Weezy is a genius. He completely understands this. The public see a reckless, drawling thug superstar who apparently seems to give less than a fuck about anything and is the quintessential "rebel without a cause". That is a marketing person's dream, and it's been that way since James Dean. But what I see, is an intelligent businessman who is acutely aware of the image he portrays and projects it to god-like proportions so that no matter how hard the scorn or criticism, it just bounces off him.
The most stunning example of this for me is the fact that there's a circulating picture of him in what appears to be a homosexual embrace, and even as a participant in one of the most homophobic music genres to ever exist..........nobody gives a fuck. (except people who were already looking for a reason to hate on him).
I totally get Wayne. And I totally get the people who don't get him, too. They're usually the slightly insecure ones who cling to past era's of hip-hop because it helped them shape an identity and find it hard to accept that life and art moves on and won't go back to how it was. It's kind of like the people in the 1990's who still wore Mohawks and leather jackets with safety pins, and only listened to the Sex Pistols and The Ramones, despite the fact weren't old enough to even really remember the punk era. These people don't consider bands like Green Day to be "real punk" just as these hip-hop heads would say that Wayne isn't "real hip-hop". I'm not bashing those type of people or calling them out. I have friends who are very much like that. It just interests me when people cling to the past and complain that things aren't what they used to be. It's like they've gotten old before their time when most of them are only in the 20's. I sometimes wonder whether they are afraid to live in the present. If any of you guys are reading this and feel that this applies to you, I'd love to hear your take on it.
Anyway this is turning into another epic post so I'll quit while I'm ahead.
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I totally get Wayne. And I totally get the people who don't get him, too. They're usually the slightly insecure ones who cling to past era's of hip-hop because it helped them shape an identity and find it hard to accept that life and art moves on and won't go back to how it was. It's kind of like the people in the 1990's who still wore Mohawks and leather jackets with safety pins, and only listened to the Sex Pistols and The Ramones, despite the fact weren't old enough to even really remember the punk era. These people don't consider bands like Green Day to be "real punk" just as these hip-hop heads would say that Wayne isn't "real hip-hop". I'm not bashing those type of people or calling them out. I have friends who are very much like that. It just interests me when people cling to the past and complain that things aren't what they used to be. It's like they've gotten old before their time when most of them are only in the 20's. I sometimes wonder whether they are afraid to live in the present. If any of you guys are reading this and feel that this applies to you, I'd love to hear your take on it.
Anyway this is turning into another epic post so I'll quit while I'm ahead.2
Anyway this is turning into another epic post so I'll quit while I'm ahead.
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I see your point and you're correct about it. But I think there's a little nuance in it.
I don't like Weezy. I don't like his music. I think it's crap.
Doesn't mean I don't respect the man for what he has achieved. Same with 50. 50's current day music? Utter shite. But damn is it working for him.
I'm also not gonna judge whether or not that shit is or isn't hiphop, I don't care. I know I don't like it. I got into hiphop way earlier than this shit existed. The "older" hiphop has my preference, definitely, but it's not like I won't accept modern reality. I don't "live in the past". I just don't like most modern (mainstream) hip-hop. There's plenty of modern hip-hop I *do* like, but Jeezy and Wayne and those cats aren't amongst it.
Living in the past isn't good. But being forced into the future isn't either.
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