masta247 said:
exactly
in my opinion he did a good beat, Pac's flow is good but they just don't fit to each other. Plus it looks like Swizz spent all his time on making beat. He haven't thought about doing some serious chorus, Bone too. Maybe they thought it's too much for them and under pressure they left the song as it was because it seems incompleted to me. On the other hand beat sound too forced with all those horns etc. That's just my opinion
i'll give him the fact that the instrumental is pretty good, and i think that it's a perfect match for the bone vocals. the problem i have with it is that it's much too "too glocks" sounding from that disaster that dj vlad and company put out (yet was hailed as the best mixtape of the year lol). you can take any 2pac vocal and throw it on a beat and have a new guest verse - but can you make them seem seamless and integrated? therein lies the challenge.
you're 100% on the money with respect to the hooks. i could probably actually enjoy this song if not for these horrible hooks. digital chopping is so amateurish that not even n00bs in the mixemup forum pull that shit. look at still ballin - an arguably questionable pairing of trick daddy and pac (likely on the sole basis of trick's random hits and the fact that pac said "trick" in homeboyz) but somehow it worked. why? because while pac's hooks were altered, they did a trade lines style with trick daddy so it all made sense. it was a successful duet and not two random verses sewn together because both artists are cool. if swizz can't even swing that, i'm sure any random turbtablist would have been happy to lay some free scratching hooks instead of that my-first-casio-with-a-mic-to-make-vocal-samples crap job.
can you tell i hate the shit out of the hooks?
masta247 said:
We're Pac fans so we're his best critics also. Knowing it comes out from Pac this song is on way too low level
i'll be the first to admit a bias toward og or og vibe, but sometimes we cannot our discontent. in a way, we the dedicated and knowledgeable fans have a duty to let the casual listener know how much more is out there. imagine yourself being a best buy / sam goody pac fan. you see a new album on the new releases shelf and you buy it. you have no idea about the endless og scene online. imagine the incredible amount that you're missing. i understand why amaru frowns on the og's, but really, they are what kept the constant interest in pac in 97-99 ("is he alive? where are these coming from?!?! how much is left?") and they offer a unique chance to see the music in the original spirit as it was made. sure, everything they owe og might be a bit dull, but the significance of a johnny j recycled beat and the simple, unpolished delivery and structure help pac fans learn more about the song more than a remix could ever teach.
SAD4PAC said:
Think about this:
"Maybe Afeni is releasing this crap not only to sell, but because she IS GONNA RELEASE THE O.G. set later, so the tracks in this releases(UTEOT, BD, LTTG and now PL ) have to be very different from the O.G.s" !!!
It´s like if she releases the songs in OG format, there wont be any material left for the OG set release?
Maybe...
the og set release is a rumor that comes and goes, and has never been explicitly proven to be a real plan. the simple fact is that with every release that the original collaborators are dissed on, the more reluctant they will be to sign off when it comes time to release an og. likewise, i think that a lot of people on this board think that amaru knows everyone who has done the music with pac and it's all one big happy family, but i can tell you this much... i have actually served in an indirect consultant to locate the contact information for a lot of people one might think amaru had long standing relationships with. imagine that. ...so then if amaru doesn't have all these people onboard now, won't it be a little rough say 2 years from now? food for thought.
EDouble said:
I think that we realy dont know for sure yet whether or not this is the official single or if its the Lead single. it might just be a test. ever since the leak there hasnt been any news or confirmation or anything
very true. for bd, still ballin was shipped as the lead song, but it was never sold as a single of course. what is sent to radio and dj markets for promotion and not offered as a single to the retail sector. such may be the case here, and then the single will be a more amaru-typical song that is softer and more thug angel-esque.
