SMG Tranny question...

Duke

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#21
Since it's a gay ass "semi-sporty-box" for knobs who are lazy and can't drive a motor with a proper gearbox.
 
#25
Why do you care how fast you swap cogs when all you do is pootle around in traffic jams, anyway?
I'm not in the city, I'm in the suburbs. It isn't traffic jams at all, but alot of city driving and I hated changing gears constantly. Maybe I need to drive a manual car. Yes, I have never driven manual.

But I got my Bimmer, in case you didn't read, and I was experimenting with the manual thingy. I know it's nowhere near the real thing, but if it's there, it should atleast be decent to drive. I keep getting the jerk when I switch. Someone teach me how to drive this thing.
 

Duke

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#26
I'm not in the city, I'm in the suburbs. It isn't traffic jams at all, but alot of city driving and I hated changing gears constantly. Maybe I need to drive a manual car. Yes, I have never driven manual.

But I got my Bimmer, in case you didn't read, and I was experimenting with the manual thingy. I know it's nowhere near the real thing, but if it's there, it should atleast be decent to drive. I keep getting the jerk when I switch. Someone teach me how to drive this thing.

A lot of SMG transmissions are jerky in manual modes or at low speeds.

How the hell can you afford such a high end 5-series, anyway, man? I know the States are much cheaper to buy a car, but still. What the hell do you do for a living?
 
#27
A lot of SMG transmissions are jerky in manual modes or at low speeds.

How the hell can you afford such a high end 5-series, anyway, man? I know the States are much cheaper to buy a car, but still. What the hell do you do for a living?
Well, everyone on the E60 forums dry humps their SMGs, it seems. I'm no longer talking about SMGs anymore, I'm just talking about the manual mode on my automatic. What's the point of it if it's not like a manual car?
 

Duke

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#28
What's the point of having a manual mode on an automatic in the first place? Just stick it in auto-mode and leave it there, man. Why else would you get an automatic?

But really, what do you do?
 

C.R.Y.

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#30
What's the point of having a manual mode on an automatic in the first place? Just stick it in auto-mode and leave it there, man. Why else would you get an automatic?

But really, what do you do?
because when youre in your spirited times, you drive fast. and a transmission which shifts up everytime you let go of the gas is annoying. manual honestly can get very annoying in traffic. and i tend to get alot of it going to work in jersey city. its especially a pain with a stage 2 clutch. i love my manuals but i can see why someone would prefer automatic too
 
#31
What's the point of having a manual mode on an automatic in the first place? Just stick it in auto-mode and leave it there, man. Why else would you get an automatic?

But really, what do you do?
Oh and I forgot to mention that I do in fact leave it in auto, but I was just wondering about the couple of times I was in residential area and just wanted to try it out and why it sucked so bad and why anyone would even want this manual option. I know it's easier to roll yourself out of snow in a manual, but that's somewhat irrelevant.

If someone asks about my car if it's stick, I proudly say no, it's an auto. I don't "wish" I had a manual, I just have the option right there in front of me.
 

Duke

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#32
How can you afford such a car when you're a student? Even in the States, such a car must be what? 30, 40 thousand dollars?
 

Duke

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#33
because when youre in your spirited times, you drive fast. and a transmission which shifts up everytime you let go of the gas is annoying. manual honestly can get very annoying in traffic. and i tend to get alot of it going to work in jersey city. its especially a pain with a stage 2 clutch. i love my manuals but i can see why someone would prefer automatic too

Those hybrid gearboxes are stupid. The only exceptions are the purely performance orientated gearboxes with the paddles that shift ridiculously fast and jerk hard enough to snap your neck in two. They just do their job. But many car makers now offer an automatic that has been slightly fiddled with so you can select your own gear, but since it's a marketing response the manual gear shift, like dilla's BMW, tends to be jerky and snappy and sometimes not even all that quick because it's still an automatic mechanically (most are, anyway.)

My point is that it's, in essence, a very unnecessary upgrade (those paddle-gearboxes) for a problem that doesn't really exist. Drivers like you and me don't need to shave two-tenths off our shifting times, because we're not racecar drivers. Sure, that Fezza's have the system, but if you put stuff like this in an ordinary 5-series, you get annoyed. And rightly so.

If you want an auto because you're lazy yet you want to be able to shift manually when you feel like driving fast, you deserve to get stuck with the niggles of one of those hybrid gearboxes. If one is that upset with having to push some pedals everytime you're stuck in traffic, you have either pathetic leg muscles or, if you're stuck in traffic that often, are in need of a different means of transportation.
 
#35
Those hybrid gearboxes are stupid. The only exceptions are the purely performance orientated gearboxes with the paddles that shift ridiculously fast and jerk hard enough to snap your neck in two. They just do their job. But many car makers now offer an automatic that has been slightly fiddled with so you can select your own gear, but since it's a marketing response the manual gear shift, like dilla's BMW, tends to be jerky and snappy and sometimes not even all that quick because it's still an automatic mechanically (most are, anyway.)

My point is that it's, in essence, a very unnecessary upgrade (those paddle-gearboxes) for a problem that doesn't really exist. Drivers like you and me don't need to shave two-tenths off our shifting times, because we're not racecar drivers. Sure, that Fezza's have the system, but if you put stuff like this in an ordinary 5-series, you get annoyed. And rightly so.

If you want an auto because you're lazy yet you want to be able to shift manually when you feel like driving fast, you deserve to get stuck with the niggles of one of those hybrid gearboxes. If one is that upset with having to push some pedals everytime you're stuck in traffic, you have either pathetic leg muscles or, if you're stuck in traffic that often, are in need of a different means of transportation.

To your last part, I want to drive fast, but never use the pseudo-manual mode to do so. I usually switch to manual because I want to just see what it feels like to drive manual while understanding I'm missing a key component..actually, a few. So I never floor it when I'm in the manual mode, I just try it out a bit. I can go plenty fast in auto.
 

C.R.Y.

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#36
If one is that upset with having to push some pedals everytime you're stuck in traffic, you have either pathetic leg muscles or, if you're stuck in traffic that often, are in need of a different means of transportation.
thats not true. if you do enough of any motion youre bound to get tired. my right side knee hurts when i get stuck in traffic for the reason that i have to keep tapping the gas constantly (not holding it) while releasing the clutch. i only get stuck in traffic every two weeks but it does tire my leg out. im not driving no soft stock clutch neither.

im not saying manuals suck or anything. just that i understand why people like best of both worlds. and i see nothing wrong in that. the GTRs transmission is an example. its an automatic that is easy to drive in traffic, but it still launches like a manual. another comparison for manual vs auto would be a car without powersteering and a car with. one without feels more connected to the road, is tighter, and is generally more fun. a car with power steering is easier to park with and makes driving around easier. this coming from someone who prefers manual and loves it and wont go back to automatic unless its in a car like the gtr
 

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