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You mad?
No crusade, I just thought your post was stupid and told you so. Pseudo-intellectualism? That's true. I always try to impress people with my unflabble wisdom and intelligence
Yet another reason to see this movie.
I'm developing a hovercraft so I can stop killing grass.
No crusade, I just thought your post was stupid and told you so. Pseudo-intellectualism? That's true. I always try to impress people with my unflabble wisdom and intelligence
Yet another reason to see this movie.
I'm developing a hovercraft so I can stop killing grass.
Hell, that's the best place to start!
Prove your ignorance once again. Bhangra fans HATE, HATE, HATE Bollywood music. Mainly because Bhangra comes from Punjab (There's a lot of sikh militants in Punjab who want to see it become it's own independent state called Khalistan) , and Bollywood movies have a nasty habit of badly portraying Punjabi people as the stereotypical evil characters etc etc.
I actually couldn't care less as I'm not Sikh, I'm Hindu-Punjabi, so I have no particular aversion to Bollywood music other than it's not really my thing.
Anyway, I digress. But it's good to know you're so easily wound up
Watch your blood pressure matey.
oh and LMAO at the Daler Mehndi video.
Would you ever think that that same guy would link up with members of one of the most famous rock groups of the 80's and do this???
http://www.myspace.com/thewolfmen
Check the track '2 Eyes', Daler Mehndi & The Wolfmen. Insane punk bhangra.
Prove your ignorance once again. Bhangra fans HATE, HATE, HATE Bollywood music. Mainly because Bhangra comes from Punjab (There's a lot of sikh militants in Punjab who want to see it become it's own independent state called Khalistan) , and Bollywood movies have a nasty habit of badly portraying Punjabi people as the stereotypical evil characters etc etc.
I actually couldn't care less as I'm not Sikh, I'm Hindu-Punjabi, so I have no particular aversion to Bollywood music other than it's not really my thing.
Anyway, I digress. But it's good to know you're so easily wound up
Watch your blood pressure matey.oh and LMAO at the Daler Mehndi video.
Would you ever think that that same guy would link up with members of one of the most famous rock groups of the 80's and do this???
http://www.myspace.com/thewolfmen
Check the track '2 Eyes', Daler Mehndi & The Wolfmen. Insane punk bhangra.
Hell, that's the best place to start!
Prove your ignorance once again. Bhangra fans HATE, HATE, HATE Bollywood music. Mainly because Bhangra comes from Punjab (There's a lot of sikh militants in Punjab who want to see it become it's own independent state called Khalistan) , and Bollywood movies have a nasty habit of badly portraying Punjabi people as the stereotypical evil characters etc etc.
I actually couldn't care less as I'm not Sikh, I'm Hindu-Punjabi, so I have no particular aversion to Bollywood music other than it's not really my thing.
Anyway, I digress. But it's good to know you're so easily wound up Watch your blood pressure matey.
oh and LMAO at the Daler Mehndi video.
Would you ever think that that same guy would link up with members of one of the most famous rock groups of the 80's and do this???
http://www.myspace.com/thewolfmen
Check the track '2 Eyes', Daler Mehndi & The Wolfmen. Insane punk bhangra.
Prove your ignorance once again. Bhangra fans HATE, HATE, HATE Bollywood music. Mainly because Bhangra comes from Punjab (There's a lot of sikh militants in Punjab who want to see it become it's own independent state called Khalistan) , and Bollywood movies have a nasty habit of badly portraying Punjabi people as the stereotypical evil characters etc etc.
I actually couldn't care less as I'm not Sikh, I'm Hindu-Punjabi, so I have no particular aversion to Bollywood music other than it's not really my thing.
Anyway, I digress. But it's good to know you're so easily wound up
Watch your blood pressure matey.oh and LMAO at the Daler Mehndi video.
Would you ever think that that same guy would link up with members of one of the most famous rock groups of the 80's and do this???
http://www.myspace.com/thewolfmen
Check the track '2 Eyes', Daler Mehndi & The Wolfmen. Insane punk bhangra.
lmao point to me where im showing signs of anger. no one likes a bragger, so just shut the fuck up already. really, no one cares about your shit, and it makes it hard for peple to be happy for you when you say shit like "im wiping my ass with 50s".
Did I say you were angry? I said you were wound up which you obviously are since you resort to your piss-weak disses.
Again....I find it funny that you are so easily wound up. Ever thought I might just be fucking with you (amongst others?)
Shit, this thread has more replies than anything in months.
I credit myself.
No kiddo. That's your opinion of what happened.
Most of the peeps who "liked me", still do. Well, the ones I chat to on a regular basis anyway, as for the rest, even if what you said was true, I aint too bothered about that anyway. I have more going on my life to care about random people online (obviously).
I don't think everyone is jealous of me. But I would be, if I wasn't me
(joke)
Most of the peeps who "liked me", still do. Well, the ones I chat to on a regular basis anyway, as for the rest, even if what you said was true, I aint too bothered about that anyway. I have more going on my life to care about random people online (obviously).
I don't think everyone is jealous of me. But I would be, if I wasn't me
(joke)
I eat meat because:
- I like it.
- Morally speaking I would be all for an initiative to end animal suffering in the bio industry, but it needs to have a realistic chance of success.
- I do not care enough about cows and pigs in the big scheme of things not to eat meat. There are other, also important issues I adress to myself in how I think I should live my life.
I almost never throw garbage on the street. I donate to the WWF. I would like to see more coordinated political efforts against world hunger.
In an ideal world, would I refuse to eat the meat of an animal that suffered for me? Probably. But right here, right now, there are other, imo more important things for me to worry about.
Furthermore, I never felt the need to justify my meat eating to myself or others. A post like this is to give others an insight in my why's and how's.
- I like it.
- Morally speaking I would be all for an initiative to end animal suffering in the bio industry, but it needs to have a realistic chance of success.
- I do not care enough about cows and pigs in the big scheme of things not to eat meat. There are other, also important issues I adress to myself in how I think I should live my life.
I almost never throw garbage on the street. I donate to the WWF. I would like to see more coordinated political efforts against world hunger.
In an ideal world, would I refuse to eat the meat of an animal that suffered for me? Probably. But right here, right now, there are other, imo more important things for me to worry about.
Furthermore, I never felt the need to justify my meat eating to myself or others. A post like this is to give others an insight in my why's and how's.
The World Wrestling Federation?
One problem is that, if no one has been an example of change, then you don’t even have a role model. If no one had stopped eating meat in order to bring about change because they thought it would be a fruitless (meatless) chore then there wouldn’t be 10 million or so vegetarians in the US. Then those 10 million people would say, “If everyone changes at the same time, then I’ll stop eating meat. Worse, they wouldn’t even know to think that. There wouldn’t even be an issue to have things change. All change begins with one person. How could it not? We can’t change the world unless we change ourselves. If we’re all individually selfish, we’re going to be collectively selfish.
I don’t believe in the big-change concept, at least not for most things. People are not going to hold the idea for some change in their minds and then make a global coordinated, multinational action. If no one has actually changed, no one will be committed enough for change. No one will be principled enough.
Also, ask yourself: are you living according to your beliefs? Then ask yourself if your beliefs honor life or depreciate life? When you change, you challenge the reality of people around you. Your example may ultimately prompt those around you to make positive changes as well. The paradigms set forth by society are powerful forces indeed. Trying to change them can be like trying to move a mountain. Even so, you can take small steps that will eventually change an unjust system. First and foremost, you must redirect your energies from unjust systems to those that support your beliefs. You can buy household products that do not use animals in their testing and invest in companies that do not violate human rights. You can encourage healthier farming practices by buying organic food. As more and more people take such actions, small change becomes a trend, which, in turn, becomes the norm. New paradigms are created through the process of enlightenment.
And there’s a gain in everything. Accept that and realize that you can feel good about what you are doing even when you are not seeing a big impact from it. You can still feel good for having done it and you become self-empowered. True self-empowerment is not mirrored in worldly power, success, wealth, or possessions. It’s mirrored in your manner of living, because true empowerment is accompanied by a sense of inner peace. It’s the actualization of your potential.
It would be a chore to mind your principles? Most people work towards making their lives comfortable. Comforts provide a sense of security. But they also prevent us from trying anything new. We become afraid to quit our jobs and find new work, change relationships, or even change the way we eat, dress, or comb our hair. New situations create discomfort. We have no way of predicting how we are going to feel and what is going to happen to us. Comfort also creates complacency. Complacency stops the growth process. It prevents us from asking questions that are critical to growth and improvement.
It's important to challenge yourself by pushing through discomfort, which helps you to expand and grow. Then what was once uncomfortable becomes completely comfortable. Now you can make decisions, make changes, let go of old notions that no longer serve you. As you get rid of the old you can allow in the new. You are able to do things you wouldn't have done before, and eat foods you wouldn't have eaten. That's what happens when you get out of your comfort zone. What was once seen as a chore becomes its opposite.
One problem is that, if no one has been an example of change, then you don’t even have a role model. If no one had stopped eating meat in order to bring about change because they thought it would be a fruitless (meatless) chore then there wouldn’t be 10 million or so vegetarians in the US. Then those 10 million people would say, “If everyone changes at the same time, then I’ll stop eating meat. Worse, they wouldn’t even know to think that. There wouldn’t even be an issue to have things change. All change begins with one person. How could it not? We can’t change the world unless we change ourselves. If we’re all individually selfish, we’re going to be collectively selfish.
I don’t believe in the big-change concept, at least not for most things. People are not going to hold the idea for some change in their minds and then make a global coordinated, multinational action. If no one has actually changed, no one will be committed enough for change. No one will be principled enough.
Also, ask yourself: are you living according to your beliefs? Then ask yourself if your beliefs honor life or depreciate life? When you change, you challenge the reality of people around you. Your example may ultimately prompt those around you to make positive changes as well. The paradigms set forth by society are powerful forces indeed. Trying to change them can be like trying to move a mountain. Even so, you can take small steps that will eventually change an unjust system. First and foremost, you must redirect your energies from unjust systems to those that support your beliefs. You can buy household products that do not use animals in their testing and invest in companies that do not violate human rights. You can encourage healthier farming practices by buying organic food. As more and more people take such actions, small change becomes a trend, which, in turn, becomes the norm. New paradigms are created through the process of enlightenment.
And there’s a gain in everything. Accept that and realize that you can feel good about what you are doing even when you are not seeing a big impact from it. You can still feel good for having done it and you become self-empowered. True self-empowerment is not mirrored in worldly power, success, wealth, or possessions. It’s mirrored in your manner of living, because true empowerment is accompanied by a sense of inner peace. It’s the actualization of your potential.
It would be a chore to mind your principles? Most people work towards making their lives comfortable. Comforts provide a sense of security. But they also prevent us from trying anything new. We become afraid to quit our jobs and find new work, change relationships, or even change the way we eat, dress, or comb our hair. New situations create discomfort. We have no way of predicting how we are going to feel and what is going to happen to us. Comfort also creates complacency. Complacency stops the growth process. It prevents us from asking questions that are critical to growth and improvement.
It's important to challenge yourself by pushing through discomfort, which helps you to expand and grow. Then what was once uncomfortable becomes completely comfortable. Now you can make decisions, make changes, let go of old notions that no longer serve you. As you get rid of the old you can allow in the new. You are able to do things you wouldn't have done before, and eat foods you wouldn't have eaten. That's what happens when you get out of your comfort zone. What was once seen as a chore becomes its opposite.
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I'm with you on everything you're saying in general, but as for meat, i just don't wanna quit eating it.
I had to revive this thread because I don't think it's been done so far in this thread and I just HAD to post this:
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=grill
Was this whole thing debated? I'm not digging 26 pages back and I didn't participate for the entire run.
I'm with you on everything you're saying in general, but as for meat, i just don't wanna quit eating it.
I had to revive this thread because I don't think it's been done so far in this thread and I just HAD to post this:
http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=grill
Was this whole thing debated? I'm not digging 26 pages back and I didn't participate for the entire run.
Only an idiot would use Maddox as a means to justify themselves. (That wasn't an attack on you Preachy)
The guy may be funny but he's hardly an intellectual or someone to look up to.
Anyway, he said:
Only a complete and utter moron would manage to ignore the fact that, yes, while animals are sometimes killed while harvesting - they haven't been raised for the sole purpose of being murdered later to provide food. These are accidental deaths. That's like saying that a human being who died by tripping and falling off a cliff is the same thing as someone being held as hostage by Al Qaeda and then getting their head cut off. Sure, the end result both has a person dead, but which would you prefer for a member of your family?
And yes, I read his next two paragraphs, which were similarly retarded. Of course people aren't going to eat accidentally killed animals - that's called roadkill. As for his ridiculous drunk-drivers comparison, that's like apples and oranges. Drinking impairs one's ability to correctly operate a vehicle. If somebody is reckless enough to jump right in front of your vehicle, is that your fault? It isn't like animals don't have legs to run away, or ears to hear a big fucking harvester heading in their direction.
I don't agree with the phrase "Guiltless Grill", though. I don't believe in making people feel guilty about their diets (at least not in real life, I sometimes do it online to fuck with people), although I am always fully prepared to defend myself, or as is usually the case, explain in a civil and educated manner to somebody that has asked me about it in the first place. I don't instigate the conversation, ever. I don't believe in doing that.
The guy may be funny but he's hardly an intellectual or someone to look up to.
Anyway, he said:
Only a complete and utter moron would manage to ignore the fact that, yes, while animals are sometimes killed while harvesting - they haven't been raised for the sole purpose of being murdered later to provide food. These are accidental deaths. That's like saying that a human being who died by tripping and falling off a cliff is the same thing as someone being held as hostage by Al Qaeda and then getting their head cut off. Sure, the end result both has a person dead, but which would you prefer for a member of your family?
And yes, I read his next two paragraphs, which were similarly retarded. Of course people aren't going to eat accidentally killed animals - that's called roadkill. As for his ridiculous drunk-drivers comparison, that's like apples and oranges. Drinking impairs one's ability to correctly operate a vehicle. If somebody is reckless enough to jump right in front of your vehicle, is that your fault? It isn't like animals don't have legs to run away, or ears to hear a big fucking harvester heading in their direction.
I don't agree with the phrase "Guiltless Grill", though. I don't believe in making people feel guilty about their diets (at least not in real life, I sometimes do it online to fuck with people), although I am always fully prepared to defend myself, or as is usually the case, explain in a civil and educated manner to somebody that has asked me about it in the first place. I don't instigate the conversation, ever. I don't believe in doing that.
Ya, didn't use it as an actual backup and I didn't feel the blade go in so i'm fine ;p
However, he got an e-mail from PETA (People for Ethical Treatment of Animals), and it was a very formal e-mail talking about how they are for prevention of animal suffering. In regards to that matter, he made a point that, albeit a Maddox article, made a whole lot of sense to me and basically shows that meat-eaters and vegetarians are the same and neither prevent or cause shit. We're snowflakes. The portion was:
So what exactly constitutes as "prevention" of animal suffering? The moral vegetarians (not the ones who do it for religious or health reasons) love to chant "we're trying to limit the suffering." What the hell does that mean? If you eat wheat or soy, you're not limiting anything. Unless you plant, grow and pick your own crops, you're not doing everything you can to "limit" the suffering. You know deep down that you could help limit a whole lot more suffering, but you've chosen not to. You've chosen not to because your lifestyle is too convenient, and you'd have to give up too much, but nevermind that--you have a conscience to feel good about, and you can't let a little thing like millions of violent deaths of field animals get in the way of your moral trip.
Limit the suffering? That's like me saying I'm going to eat meat only 364 out of 365 days of the year in an effort to "limit" the suffering, I'm doing my part to prevent suffering. "BUT MADDOX, YOU COULD LIMIT A LOT MORE SUFFERING BY NOT EATING MEAT AT ALL!!!1" Exactly, and vegetarians could limit a lot more suffering by planting their own crops, but where do you draw the line? You claim to have compassion for animals, but just as soon as it gets too inconvenient you decide to call it quits? Cowards. You're no better off; not in my book. A murderer who kills 10 people is no better off than a murderer who kills 20 if the murder is avoidable. Of course, from the perspective of a suggestible young vegetarian I'm sure being responsible for half as many murders as the next guy means you're off the hook, right?
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now i feel so much better eating meat.
However, he got an e-mail from PETA (People for Ethical Treatment of Animals), and it was a very formal e-mail talking about how they are for prevention of animal suffering. In regards to that matter, he made a point that, albeit a Maddox article, made a whole lot of sense to me and basically shows that meat-eaters and vegetarians are the same and neither prevent or cause shit. We're snowflakes. The portion was:
So what exactly constitutes as "prevention" of animal suffering? The moral vegetarians (not the ones who do it for religious or health reasons) love to chant "we're trying to limit the suffering." What the hell does that mean? If you eat wheat or soy, you're not limiting anything. Unless you plant, grow and pick your own crops, you're not doing everything you can to "limit" the suffering. You know deep down that you could help limit a whole lot more suffering, but you've chosen not to. You've chosen not to because your lifestyle is too convenient, and you'd have to give up too much, but nevermind that--you have a conscience to feel good about, and you can't let a little thing like millions of violent deaths of field animals get in the way of your moral trip.
Limit the suffering? That's like me saying I'm going to eat meat only 364 out of 365 days of the year in an effort to "limit" the suffering, I'm doing my part to prevent suffering. "BUT MADDOX, YOU COULD LIMIT A LOT MORE SUFFERING BY NOT EATING MEAT AT ALL!!!1" Exactly, and vegetarians could limit a lot more suffering by planting their own crops, but where do you draw the line? You claim to have compassion for animals, but just as soon as it gets too inconvenient you decide to call it quits? Cowards. You're no better off; not in my book. A murderer who kills 10 people is no better off than a murderer who kills 20 if the murder is avoidable. Of course, from the perspective of a suggestible young vegetarian I'm sure being responsible for half as many murders as the next guy means you're off the hook, right?
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now i feel so much better eating meat.
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