Proud New MAC owner

masta247

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#42
Technically you could get a pc like this for half it's price except I'm not sure how they connecter 4 video cards and made them work.

Last week I built 2 pc's for my friends. One based on newest AMD's Phenom and another on Intel Quad Core QX6700 -those beat any other cpu's Mac could use including those 8-16core xeons if it comes to media performance, intel's processor is also much faster if it comes to compressing and stull like that. They simply have much better performance.

second (more expensive) PC had 8gb (can upgrade to 16gig anytime) Geil 1333mhz ddr3 ram so that's nearly 2 times faster than rams used by Mac and a single geforce 8800gtx by EVGA - there's still no use to put 2 of those cards in SLI.
I also found cheap 24' full HD Dell monitors (700-800$).

Friends study in school which provides them with all Microsoft software licences for free so no software was needed.

Less expensive pc (with 8gig of 800mhz ddr2 ram and a single 8800gt) costs around 1500$ while the more expensive around 4200$ + 700-800$ for monitors.
So it's 2200$/5000$.

Both have newest, good Asus motherboards, WD or Samsung dual 500gb drives in Raid so they're 2 times faster and Chieftec/Tagan 620W power to prevent any possible resets and troubles.

Bare in mind that electronics here are much more expensive. For example a simple 19' monitor on a S-pva matrix is more than 2 times more expensive, processors, graphic cards are nearly 2 times more expensive than american ebay prices.
I managed to find cheapest suppliers.
 

Rukas

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#44
Technically you could get a pc like this for half it's price except I'm not sure how they connecter 4 video cards and made them work.

Last week I built 2 pc's for my friends. One based on newest AMD's Phenom and another on Intel Quad Core QX6700 -those beat any other cpu's Mac could use including those 8-16core xeons if it comes to media performance, intel's processor is also much faster if it comes to compressing and stull like that. They simply have much better performance.

second (more expensive) PC had 8gb (can upgrade to 16gig anytime) Geil 1333mhz ddr3 ram so that's nearly 2 times faster than rams used by Mac and a single geforce 8800gtx by EVGA - there's still no use to put 2 of those cards in SLI.
I also found cheap 24' full HD Dell monitors (700-800$).

Friends study in school which provides them with all Microsoft software licences for free so no software was needed.

Less expensive pc (with 8gig of 800mhz ddr2 ram and a single 8800gt) costs around 1500$ while the more expensive around 4200$ + 700-800$ for monitors.
So it's 2200$/5000$.

Both have best Asus motherboards, WD or Samsung dual 500gb drives in Raid so they're 2 times faster and Chieftec/Tagan 620W power to prevent any possible resets and troubles.

It's not the hardware that I care about so much as the software, the mac OS is designed to work with that hardware configuration perfectly and efficiently. The software, as well as the music software I use, is designed for the Mac I am getting so it will always run more smoothly than the PCs we can build.

It's like putting a family car onto a smooth highway and a Ferrari onto a dirt bumpy off terrain road. The slower family car will get there faster because it has a better foundation to work with, the more powerful Ferrari will hit pot holes and hills it will have trouble over coming even though hardware wise it is superior; it lacks the foundation provided by a smooth road.
 

masta247

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#45
yeah I have to agree that there are things that people just prefer to do on Macs. It's just Apple wants much too much for the hardware they give.

It's like buying the same verbatim cd-r's in the market and another ones with apple logo in apple store. You have to pay more than twice as much for the same thing with an apple logo on it.

So what I'm saying is that the hardware they give is not worth that much money, it's barely worth half of what they want for it.
 

Rukas

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#46
yeah I have to agree that there are things that people just prefer to do on Macs. It's just Apple wants much too much for the hardware they give.

It's like buying the same verbatim cd-r's in the market and another ones with apple logo in apple store. You have to pay more than twice as much for the same thing with an apple logo on it.

So what I'm saying is that the hardware they give is not worth that much money, it's barely worth half of what they want for it.

Its the performance I pay for, not the hardware.
 

Rukas

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#48
Biggest waste then?
Nope. I dont think so. It's like flying first class, you can call it a waste but I like the comfort.

Or like calling a pair of Nikes a waste, sure you can wear your walmart brand sneakers, but I like my Nikes.
 
#49
for someone that seemingly was tight on money with college loans, etc. you sure spent a grand or so more on something that could easily be had for around 250 and done the job.... but that's just me... :)
 

Eric

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#50
I honestly can't use Macs. They do look clean, neat and whatnot.
It appears your use of 'whatnot' is not in a comedic or rhetorical context because I urge people to not use this verbal crutch. Instead, I see that this word came in the natural flow of conversation for you.

I strongly urge you not to use that word again. I like you and do not wish to tempblock you, but it could be a neccessity.

Again, to everyone that uses whatnot... Its a major offense. Its the word of the idiot, the redneck, the white trash, and those who want to appear intelligent. Please rid this word from your vocabulary.
 
#51
eric calm down and whatnot... it could lead to some health issues and what not... ah, im gonna go have a smoke of my new salems and whatnot... what type of knot do i tie my shoe with? oh.. a whatnot...
 

hizzle?

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#52
Not really.

Two 3.2GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon (8-core)
16GB (8 x 2GB) RAM
300GB 15,000-rpm SAS HHD1
1TB 7200-rpm Serial ATA 3Gb/s HHD2
4 x ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT 256MB
2 x Apple Cinema HD Display (30" flat panel)
Are you planning on running a nuclear plant or something???
 

Rukas

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#53
Are you planning on running a nuclear plant or something???

Hehe. Something like that.

Nah, Im getting it for the studio (0% internet access on it to prevent fuck ups) and it will be used for audio and video editing.

In my spare time I may use it to launch a mission to Mars and/or coordinate a nuclear holocaust upon the world, we'll see how I go for time.
 

Preach

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#56
it honestly isn't that crazy. rukas will get a pc that will own all our pc's mothers to hell, but it's not a anywhere near being a supercomputer. double quad core computers have been available for some time. technically, quad core is not necessary in regular home pcs. in playing games you would notice little difference to a dual core. it's in doing things like processing music that you might experience increase in speed.

also, 16gb ram isn't insane. a lot of pc's come with 4 right now. again, it just means you can run more shit at once.

the video cards aren't even all that, they could be way better. so yeah i can tell this is a studio pc. sell your club and get me one too? :)
 

Synful*Luv

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#57
for someone that seemingly was tight on money with college loans, etc. you sure spent a grand or so more on something that could easily be had for around 250 and done the job.... but that's just me... :)
Who me? I only spent $850, didn't take out any student loans really, I owe less than 2,000 and i'm never tight on money, I make damn near 43K a year without my BA.
 

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