Again, it isn't that Prince is stupid, it's that he's obsolete in the way he claims the internet is. What we are talking about here is an artist who was hugely popular in the 80s and is admittedly still popular with critics and a certain segment of fans. I love Prince as much as anyone who was alive in the 80s, but he makes very little sense on this one.
Prince: The Internet is dead
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Sorry Ristol but you have no idea what you are talking about. This whole "Yeah Prince was an artist who was massive in the 80's" is a misnomer because it implies that he didn't have amazing commercial success in subsequent decades which he did - see "Diamonds and Pearls" [1991], "The Gold Experience" [1995], "Musicology" [2004], "3121" [2006].
He still holds the record for the most sold out concerts any venue in the world - 21 Nights at the O2 London in 2007, and his music is always of a consistently high quality no matter the method he uses to distribute it. One thing that's important to remember is that Prince is always ahead of his time. He was the FIRST artists to distribute his music via the Internet back in 1997 with "Crystal Ball", and make no mistake, if he's not happy with the current digital business model - he's far from being the only one.
He still holds the record for the most sold out concerts any venue in the world - 21 Nights at the O2 London in 2007, and his music is always of a consistently high quality no matter the method he uses to distribute it. One thing that's important to remember is that Prince is always ahead of his time. He was the FIRST artists to distribute his music via the Internet back in 1997 with "Crystal Ball", and make no mistake, if he's not happy with the current digital business model - he's far from being the only one.
I actually preferred 3121 to Musicology.
And I don't think he matters less than he used to. It's all relative. I don't see the difference between him selling out XYZ shows on the Purple Rain tour in 1985, and selling out the O2 (a 25k capacity arena) for 21 nights in 2007. He's had #1 albums on the Billboard recently too. Musically it's a question of taste, although I concede he's been less consistent over the last decade overall. I would actually argue he's the best example of an artist staying relevant over a long period of time - it's been 32 years since his debut album was released.
In what way does he matter less, in your opinion?
And I don't think he matters less than he used to. It's all relative. I don't see the difference between him selling out XYZ shows on the Purple Rain tour in 1985, and selling out the O2 (a 25k capacity arena) for 21 nights in 2007. He's had #1 albums on the Billboard recently too. Musically it's a question of taste, although I concede he's been less consistent over the last decade overall. I would actually argue he's the best example of an artist staying relevant over a long period of time - it's been 32 years since his debut album was released.
In what way does he matter less, in your opinion?
Mozart is still relevant, yes, I agree with that. I don't quite see what that has to do with Prince.
I'm not saying Prince isn't relevant. I just think with the splintering of pop music and the way everyone only sees what they want to see and listens to what they want to listen to, Prince tends to have less clout. I'm not saying this is just.
I don't think our opinions of Prince differ too much. I think he's a legitimate pop genius and a legend and that those terms get thrown around a bit too much about people who aren't.
I'm not saying Prince isn't relevant. I just think with the splintering of pop music and the way everyone only sees what they want to see and listens to what they want to listen to, Prince tends to have less clout. I'm not saying this is just.
I don't think our opinions of Prince differ too much. I think he's a legitimate pop genius and a legend and that those terms get thrown around a bit too much about people who aren't.
You lot are actually having a good music discussion in this.
I've never been a big Prince fan (forgive me, Casey), but if i have to make a call i'll agree with Ristol on this. Prince is a musical genius and he's definitely still relevant today and not in the way Mozart is, or Tupac, cos the difference is that Mozart and Pac are dead, they're not making music anymore. Prince still is, and he's still relevant.
But i do think he's not as relevant as he used to be.
I've never been a big Prince fan (forgive me, Casey), but if i have to make a call i'll agree with Ristol on this. Prince is a musical genius and he's definitely still relevant today and not in the way Mozart is, or Tupac, cos the difference is that Mozart and Pac are dead, they're not making music anymore. Prince still is, and he's still relevant.
But i do think he's not as relevant as he used to be.
Coming from the artist who shut down some of his fan sites.
Too bad it's technically only available in Europe. It will be available online eventually (if it's not already the case), but why bother for an artist who thought non-Europeans just weren't good enough for him.
I'm not a fan, but he is surely aware that he has fans outside of Europe. If he isn't down with the Internet, why doesn't he make sure these non-European fans get access to his new music too? I find Prince doesn't care about his fans. Shutting fan sites, not giving access to his new material to all his fans, what's next?
Why?
I like to think that if Mozart is still known to this day for his musical genius, it's because he has been able to be relevant throughout times. We'll see if in a couple of centuries, Prince will be as relevant, or any other artist for that matter. Sure, classical music is a genre that is ancient compared to some others, but it remains a genre that is still practised to this day. How is it a different genre than pop, rap, or dance music? Those are all genres with artists more relevant than others.
Too bad it's technically only available in Europe. It will be available online eventually (if it's not already the case), but why bother for an artist who thought non-Europeans just weren't good enough for him.
I'm not a fan, but he is surely aware that he has fans outside of Europe. If he isn't down with the Internet, why doesn't he make sure these non-European fans get access to his new music too? I find Prince doesn't care about his fans. Shutting fan sites, not giving access to his new material to all his fans, what's next?
Why?
I like to think that if Mozart is still known to this day for his musical genius, it's because he has been able to be relevant throughout times. We'll see if in a couple of centuries, Prince will be as relevant, or any other artist for that matter. Sure, classical music is a genre that is ancient compared to some others, but it remains a genre that is still practised to this day. How is it a different genre than pop, rap, or dance music? Those are all genres with artists more relevant than others.
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