Pot Parents

S O F I

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#1
Remember back in the day when we would post articles from the web and then talk about them? Yeah, let's do that.

THE youngest of my three daughters was born around the same time I became a card-carrying medical cannabis patient. Even though I was only 44, I’d been suffering from occasional back pain. I also suffered bouts of stress, compounded by anxiety. The causes were unknown, but there seemed to be a correlation with work deadlines and flying coach with three children under the age of 5. Sometimes it got so bad I had trouble falling asleep at night, leaving me groggy and irritable.


So, in 2010, I resolved to seek medical help. I received a thorough physical examination from my CannaMed doctor, who checked not only my pulse but my blood pressure as well. Examining the results, he concluded that I would benefit enormously from a cannabis-based treatment regimen and recommended that I use a brownie-based form of the drug to avoid the lung irritation associated with other modes of dose administration. I soon had in my possession a shiny, state-sanctioned medical marijuana ID card, gaining me free access to the city’s expanding array of quasi-legal cannabis dispensaries.

After two years of treatment, I can state unequivocally that I feel much better about pretty much everything. Sure, my back still hurts, but I’m cool with it.


But the best part is an amazing off-label benefit I call Parental Attention Surplus Syndrome.

Before beginning treatment, I was a dutiful if not particularly enthusiastic father. Workaday parental obligations were a necessary, unfortunate chore. I was so stressed out by the end of the day that bedtime, with its interminable pleas for more stories, songs, sips of water and potty breaks, felt like a labor to be endured and dispatched as quickly as possible.
Here is what a typical weekday evening exchange between me and my oldest daughter once looked like:




Child: Daddy, can you show me how to make a Q?
Father: (sipping bourbon and soda, not looking up from iPad) Just make a circle and put a little squiggle at the bottom.
Child: No, show me!
Father: Sweetie, not now, O.K.? Daddy’s tired.
It’s different now:
Child: Daddy, can you show me how to make a Q?
Father: (getting down on the floor) Here, I’ll hold your hand while you hold the pen and we’ll make one together. There! We made a Q! Isn’t it fantastic?
Child: Thanks, Daddy!
Father: Don’t you just love the shape of this pen?
It’s the same with my middle child:
Before:
Child: Can I watch a video?
Father: Of course!
After:
Child: Can I watch a video?
Father: Why don’t we read a story and then pretend we’re in our own video! Go pick out a book, and I’ll go get the finger puppets.
I swear I am a more loving, attentive and patient father when I take my medication as prescribed. Perhaps this isn’t surprising. As anyone who inhaled during college can attest, cannabis enhances the ability to perceive beauty, complexity and novelty in otherwise mundane things (grout patterns in your bathroom floor, the Grateful Dead, Doritos), while simultaneously locking you into a prolonged state of rapt attention. You not only notice the subtle color variations in your cat’s fur, you stare at them in loving awe for 20 solid minutes.


I submit that this can be enormously salutary to the parent-toddler relationship. Beyond food, shelter and clothing, what do small children need most from their parents? Sustained, loving, participatory attention. Thank you, Doctor.

No doubt some of you are tut-tutting that I should use meditation or yoga or Zen mindfulness to achieve this. Point taken, and if I had a full-time staff of cooks and nannies, I’m sure I’d give all that a whirl. But the reality is that my wife and I are raising multiple tots on modest incomes in a small space in a very expensive city. No time for Tantra.
And I’m not suggesting that all stressed-out fathers should just get baked. You might even get a ticket for it in some states. And let’s not forget the health risks, which are rumored to possibly exist. I’ve heard that even a small amount of marijuana can impair short-term memory function. It might also affect short-term memory function.

But for me, at least, the benefits clearly outweigh the risks. I find the time I spend with my children to be qualitatively different and simply more fun when I take my medicine (always in private, never in front of them, never too much). I am able to become a kid again, to see things through my daughters’ eyes and experience, if I’m lucky, the wonder of each new game, each new object and sound, as they do.

Deeply embedded voices of authority in my head do still caution that I may be hurting my kids in ways I can’t see. But I just can’t imagine how it could possibly be worse for them than the consequences of their father’s former stress-fueled frustration and withdrawal. When I’m rolling around the floor with my giggling daughters, clicking into an easy dynamic of goofy happiness and love, I feel it’s just what the doctor ordered.


Mark Wolfe is an art dealer.
source: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/08/opinion/how-pot-helps-parenting.html

Thoughts?

I reckon some people would have a problem with parents tending to children while high.
 

Da_Funk

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#2
Well, if you need marijuana (or any other drug) to be an affectionate parent.. fuck those people is all I can say.

Granted I'm not in his position but it's no different than taking any other pill. It's just a band aid treatment to cover up something else rather than dealing with it.

I'm interested in Pittsey's thoughts.
 

Ristol

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#3
Well, if you need marijuana (or any other drug) to be an affectionate parent.. fuck those people is all I can say.

Granted I'm not in his position but it's no different than taking any other pill. It's just a band aid treatment to cover up something else rather than dealing with it.

I'm interested in Pittsey's thoughts.
Well, I'm a parent, and I require no chemical substance to make me a better one. HOWEVER, the guy makes a strong case for his own personal use. It makes sense to me, but I have some fundamental problems with it. It's tough to say "fuck those people" when you've, uh, never tried to run a household with even one child, much less the three daughters this guy has. It's not easy. Raising a child is far and away the most difficult thing I've done in my life. Anyone who says different is lying or, perhaps, super baked.

And we all know pot is a harmless nondrug, right? I have reservations about that. I think it's potentially very harmful. Even just in retrospect, when the kid is 21 or whatever, the knowledge that your father was baked out of his skull when he raised you is potentially a deep, weird psychic wound. I don't like it at all.
 

Da_Funk

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#4
Well, I'm a parent, and I require no chemical substance to make me a better one. HOWEVER, the guy makes a strong case for his own personal use. It makes sense to me, but I have some fundamental problems with it. It's tough to say "fuck those people" when you've, uh, never tried to run a household with even one child, much less the three daughters this guy has. It's not easy. Raising a child is far and away the most difficult thing I've done in my life. Anyone who says different is lying or, perhaps, super baked.

And we all know pot is a harmless nondrug, right? I have reservations about that. I think it's potentially very harmful. Even just in retrospect, when the kid is 21 or whatever, the knowledge that your father was baked out of his skull when he raised you is potentially a deep, weird psychic wound. I don't like it at all.

Liberalism run wild, if you ask me. Shame on that guy.
I've ran a classroom made up of kids from low socio economic backgrounds and my dad is a pot head. Personal experience tells me substance dependence is never a good thing, regardless of the substance and no matter how much one might think they have it under control. Throwing kids into that mix just makes it even more wrong. Like I said, it's a band aid treatment to cover something up rather than dealing with it.

But hey, to each their own. I just hope for the kids sake that they turn out ok.
 

Pittsey

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#5
Well... Each to their own. But.... Every parent is going to be tired at times, it is the world we live in. We all work hard. I also have other health reasons why I am lethargic.... But... Even after I have worked a night I still can find the energy to spend quality time with my son. I am never too tired. And I never use the TV as a babysitter.

Also... Maybe we are taking different drugs in our lives. But.... Pot... To me... Increases my relaxation. It doesn't give me more energy. And... He is looking for a way to justify his drug use. If his kids ask him to play sport, what is his response going to be? "Not yet... I just have to finish these 5 bags of doritos."

I understand there are a lot of parents out there who don't spend quality time with their children. Who prefer to sit on FB than interact with their kids. Who stick on the TV and sit them there. And he sounds like he was one of those, and Pot helps him become a better parent. I don't need that. My son and my caring for his wellbeing make it easy for me to spend quality time with him.

Not to mention that Pot is still a gateway drug, and not something I want to condone. I wouldn't go too mad if my son smoked weed. We all did it. But I wouldn't skin up and smoke a joint with him either.
 

Chronic

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#6
I agree with some parts of what everyone has said so far. It's not something that sits entirely right with me.
I do disagree with some parts. I don't think weed is a gateway drug. If you're using any drug for recreational reasons it might leave you more open-minded for other, heavier drugs but I think a lot of that has to do with weed's illegality and public perception. The fact that you have alcohol in one category and weed in another category with all the other drugs. If it was "weed and alcohol" in one category it would be different in my opinion. Smoking weed by itself doesn't have a "well I'm going to do other drugs as well" effect.
Also don't agree with the sentiment that he won't play sports with his kid because he has "the munchies". During the time when I smoked on a regular basis I was never, ever a couch potato. The people that I smoked with usually weren't either. I haven't smoked in a long time and if I were to smoke now I would feel tired and "heavy-headed". But when your tolerance has been built up for a while, it doesn't have that effect as much. Going by what the guy said, he only smokes a little. I went through a long period of depression and when I was high it would make me more energetic, I'd actually be interested in doing things and I found some enjoyment throughout the day. I'd smoke quite a bit but I was rarely "high as a kite", I was buzzed. A raise in euphoria with some minor noticeable side-effects. Any treatment that doesn't use drugs is always better but in hindsight I still agree with what I did and the moment something changed and I had other opportunities to build myself up I quit smoking.
It's quite possible that it has a positive effect on his situation without any adverse effects. Some problems I do see is that it's possible that he'll just rely on drugs rather than trying to find other solutions and that after a while it becomes more about habit and chasing the state of mind he likes. It'll be very easy for him to abuse the drug.
 

Pittsey

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#7
I was joking about the munchies and I was generally asking about energy levels for sport, as I always wanted to crash out after smoking.

As for weed being a gateway drug. The way I see it is that once you try weed and enjoy it, the natural progression is to harder drugs. You want to see what else is our there and it's effects. I don't know anyone who thought "You know what, I'll try me some Heroin". But I know a lot of people that started with weed and went up the scale to Heroin.
 

Jon

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#8
Moral dilemma aside, smoking indica would make parenting real tough but smoking sativa would probably make him more able to play sports.
 

Da_Funk

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#9
I agree with some parts of what everyone has said so far. It's not something that sits entirely right with me.
I do disagree with some parts. I don't think weed is a gateway drug. If you're using any drug for recreational reasons it might leave you more open-minded for other, heavier drugs but I think a lot of that has to do with weed's illegality and public perception. The fact that you have alcohol in one category and weed in another category with all the other drugs. If it was "weed and alcohol" in one category it would be different in my opinion. Smoking weed by itself doesn't have a "well I'm going to do other drugs as well" effect.
Also don't agree with the sentiment that he won't play sports with his kid because he has "the munchies". During the time when I smoked on a regular basis I was never, ever a couch potato. The people that I smoked with usually weren't either. I haven't smoked in a long time and if I were to smoke now I would feel tired and "heavy-headed". But when your tolerance has been built up for a while, it doesn't have that effect as much. Going by what the guy said, he only smokes a little. I went through a long period of depression and when I was high it would make me more energetic, I'd actually be interested in doing things and I found some enjoyment throughout the day. I'd smoke quite a bit but I was rarely "high as a kite", I was buzzed. A raise in euphoria with some minor noticeable side-effects. Any treatment that doesn't use drugs is always better but in hindsight I still agree with what I did and the moment something changed and I had other opportunities to build myself up I quit smoking.
It's quite possible that it has a positive effect on his situation without any adverse effects. Some problems I do see is that it's possible that he'll just rely on drugs rather than trying to find other solutions and that after a while it becomes more about habit and chasing the state of mind he likes. It'll be very easy for him to abuse the drug.
Weed is a gateway drug insomuch as that it's the easiest for young people to get their hands on (at least where I'm from). Ironically that is because it's illegal. People can make the argument that a parents liquor cabinet is right there, but as a young person who is just getting into the scene, I think it's much harder, mentally, to steal liquor from your parents than it is to give the older kid on the street $10. Regardless, I think anyone who tries weed at a young age has deep seeded issues and would naturally progress to harder drugs no matter what they started on.

Well... Each to their own. But.... Every parent is going to be tired at times, it is the world we live in. We all work hard. I also have other health reasons why I am lethargic.... But... Even after I have worked a night I still can find the energy to spend quality time with my son. I am never too tired. And I never use the TV as a babysitter.

Also... Maybe we are taking different drugs in our lives. But.... Pot... To me... Increases my relaxation. It doesn't give me more energy. And... He is looking for a way to justify his drug use. If his kids ask him to play sport, what is his response going to be? "Not yet... I just have to finish these 5 bags of doritos."

I understand there are a lot of parents out there who don't spend quality time with their children. Who prefer to sit on FB than interact with their kids. Who stick on the TV and sit them there. And he sounds like he was one of those, and Pot helps him become a better parent. I don't need that. My son and my caring for his wellbeing make it easy for me to spend quality time with him.

Not to mention that Pot is still a gateway drug, and not something I want to condone. I wouldn't go too mad if my son smoked weed. We all did it. But I wouldn't skin up and smoke a joint with him either.
He is already using a way to justify it. The entire article, to me, reeks of someone trying to justify a habit.
 

Pittsey

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#10
Using Canabis to treat insomnia and anxiety is mad in the first place. And I don't mean by replacing it with diazepam either. Address the problem and talk it out. Too quick to turn to chemicals.
 

S O F I

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#12
That's actually not textbook SOFI. Check my 17,000 posts.

I don't know about you guys, but people are having discussions about weed everywhere I go. It's as exciting to me to discuss as discussing rocks, which means not at all. I said rocks on purpose because rocks knock your socks off.

My thoughts are, some problems can't be dealt with without the assistance of chemicals. It's too naive for people to think that way. Not everything can be "talked through". I'm in no position to pass judgment as the more I grow, the more I realize that there's just too many different viable options of living this life.
 

Da_Funk

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#13
That's actually not textbook SOFI. Check my 17,000 posts.

I don't know about you guys, but people are having discussions about weed everywhere I go. It's as exciting to me to discuss as discussing rocks, which means not at all. I said rocks on purpose because rocks knock your socks off.

My thoughts are, some problems can't be dealt with without the assistance of chemicals. It's too naive for people to think that way. Not everything can be "talked through". I'm in no position to pass judgment as the more I grow, the more I realize that there's just too many different viable options of living this life.
lol.

Where do you go that people talk about weed? I literally haven't had one conversation about it in years. I'd agree that some problems can't be dealt with without the assistance of chemicals. But we are talking about a guy who was a little bit over-stressed. Not someone with a rare form of cancer, not someone with a neurological disease, not someone with MS. Someone who is over stressed. Someone who deals with the same issues that every single human being on the planet has dealt with since humans have been beings.

Like I said, it's just another band aid that people use to mask a problem rather than dealing with the core issue. And that is the problem with what he is trying to get across. But hey, he's just another victim of society and common thinking.
 

Pittsey

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#14
I agree.

Chemicals are required for extreme cases only. Not if you're sad because your GF dumped you for having a small penis and BO. Have a bath and practice oral sex on your pillow. Xanax is not required.
 

S O F I

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#15
lol.

Where do you go that people talk about weed? I literally haven't had one conversation about it in years. I'd agree that some problems can't be dealt with without the assistance of chemicals. But we are talking about a guy who was a little bit over-stressed. Not someone with a rare form of cancer, not someone with a neurological disease, not someone with MS. Someone who is over stressed. Someone who deals with the same issues that every single human being on the planet has dealt with since humans have been beings.

Like I said, it's just another band aid that people use to mask a problem rather than dealing with the core issue. And that is the problem with what he is trying to get across. But hey, he's just another victim of society and common thinking.
I live in Seattle and weed legalization has been on the ballet for the last few years and there's a good chance it will pass come November. So yeah, lots of talk about that.
 

Pittsey

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#16
I don't mind weed being legal. It's not more damaging than alcohol.

But I don't get pissed up on a daily basis just because I am a more fun Dad on alcohol.
 

Da_Funk

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#17
I agree.

Chemicals are required for extreme cases only. Not if you're sad because your GF dumped you for having a small penis and BO. Have a bath and practice oral sex on your pillow. Xanax is not required.
Great minds think a like.

Side note: I now have sh on my toughbook at work. Booyah
 

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