ONCE AND FOR ALL: MATW vs. AEOM vs. 7 Day Theory...

[2Pac-arab]

All Eyez On Me

 

[Butt Rubber]

2pacalypse now is pacs best

 

[Mongol]

2pacalypse now is pacs best

i would disagree

i think 2pacalypse Now is when the Pac era started hence the title

 

[imported_MAKaveli_10]

Id say 7 day theory because it has my favourite songs Blasphemy and Bomb First. and the lyrics are so dark and mature.

 

[2pac4prez2006]

krazy, white man's world, hail mary etc....amazing 2pac tracks

 

[soulja4death]

Dk7

 

[Hellrazor1978]

2pacalypse now is pacs best

great album, and a personal classic for me.....but not Pac's best. Lyrically and musically it cant touch DK7.

 

[imported_Sun_Tzu]

i luv all three of these albums but i think i get more out of listenin to Dk7

 

[Dante]

i wasn't going to post, because comparing pac albums to each other isn't fair. let me explain why...

each album is a snapshot of pac's life at the time.

• 2pacalypse now now represents the digital underground 2pac who impressed shock g and the rest of us. street and political at the same time, 2pac became who he was because he took artistic risks on this lp. no one else to this day has revealed a part of their soul like pac did here. likewise, this cd was intended to be a double cd - the first ever for rap music, but was trimmed down into what we know and love. 2pac and du/stretch influenced beats, how can you ever complain? this was the only lp to be released exactly as pac had intended.
• strictly 4 my n.i.g.g.a.z. captures the rage of the day, thanks to the riots and a general theme of racial tension in america at the time. the entire album, minus a few laid back songs, has a message and most of that message is laced with anger. this album is arguably the one in which 2pac says the most in his lyrics. this album is easily my favorite, and desperately needs a remastered release.
• thug life was pac's first opportunity to put people he loved and respected on. unfortunately this album was chopped to hell and back, making it short, but still one of the best of the day. 2pac was incarcerated shortly after its release, making it somewhat of a hollow release in that it didn't ever have a chance to live up to the potential it could have. this album also marks some of warren g's first serious non g-funk crew production and began pac's relationship with persons who would later be an influential factor in his signing to death row.
• matw is an album that believe it or not (i know this firsthand) is an album mainly of thug life scraps. pac was able to record maybe half of these tracks before being incarcerated, the rest being thug life era tracks. this album isn't what it could have been now that we have rusd to know what pac had recorded for some of it, but it's still a classic. it's too bad pac thought he had to rework its theme due to the biggie situation. i would have loved to have heard only fear of death on this one.
• all eyez is hands down a classic, but it's hard for me to liten to this album more than the older shit. the death row balla persona is good, but pac's true voice started to get watered down by the gangsta party vibe death row was pushing at the time. sure you have some introspective tracks, but looking at strictly, where 4/5 tracks represent some degree of artistic risk, all eyez falls a little short. a great album, the first rap double cd, and a legend in its own time, but not his best work.
• makaveli couldn't have come at a better time for us. pac is dead, death row is in disarray, no one saw this coming. all of a sudden there's a makaveli album slated for release with no indications that it was 2pac to people who wouldn't have known better. a short cd, but every track is fire. it would have been nice to have had a more consistent theme instead of watering down an introspective, vengeful lp with a sex song (toss it up) and just like daddy seems subpar compared to the rest. i'll always remember playing this album at 12:15 after a midnight release party and thinking to myself that this album is an instant classic.
• rusd was a sight for sore eyes. the open letter afeni ad placed in it indicating that more pac music would be to come was what we all wanted to hear. 3/4 of the tracks are enhancements of the og's and the track selection was brilliant. hands down, this is the best posthumous release next to makaveli. period.
• uteot, better days. same thing. remixes and a few new songs remixed to hell and back. the only good remixes are the ones death row made, but amaru claimed as theirs. glad they came out. classics? na. a lot of people don't know this, but uteot's blanks were not on the test mixes that death row and amaru had agreed upon. it was only after the album was finalized that the drops were placed in, surprising death row when the album was on shelves and perpetuating the beef between the two labels with legitimate ties to pac's music. ...yet amaru would have you all believe they are the victims...
• loyal to the game is a pathetic marketing gimmick using the fame of two people well known to rap fans and their polar opposites alike. one person, even johnny j, shouldn't have the number of tracks em did on this album. adding yourself to the chorus? especially on pro-black songs? yeah, marshall fucked the pooch.

my choice? i won't vote because each album is a snapshot, but strictly has the most energy and power behind it.
remaster this album, amaru. seriously. what's the problem? you give tracks to san andreas for christ's sake.

 

[Hellrazor1978]

2pacalypse Now needs to be re-mastered also.

 

[Dante]

2pacalypse Now needs to be re-mastered also.

fortunately all of the promo cd's and singles are waaaaaay better quality than the lp tracks.

 

[Mikey]

Dante!
I totally agree with you.
I would go further and say Interscope should re-master all of the pre-death row releases.
I'd have one question...is it true that Death Row intended to release a 4-disc-compilation under "Makaveli The Vaults (or something like that)" title and Amaru quickly jumped in and got DR to cooperate with them in the release of UTEOT and Better Dayz?
I assume you know of 2pacjapan.net, I know they list many fake tracklist but according to the web site it seems that Death Row had its own plan for posthomus releases like Better Dayz. Can you tell me if those compilations were really produced but had been pushed back because of Amaru entr.?
Here's what I'm talking about:
"2Pac/ The 2nd of Two Double Albums
Recorded during 2Pac's "Makaveli" Period
(Amaru/Death Row/Interscope 2002 March. - Not be released)

CD 1
1. Ghetto Star (Ft.Crooked I)
2. Staring Thru My Rearview II
3. Fair Xchange
4. Play Your Cards Right (Ft.Outlawz)
5. Soon Az I Get Home (Ft.kadafi Of The Outlawz)
6 Mamas Just A Little Girl
7. They Don't Give A Fuck About Us (Ft.Outlawz)
8. Thugz Get Lonely Too
9. When We Come 4 U -Fright Night Remix- (Ft.E.D.I. Of The Outlawz)
10. Fade Me (Ft.Outlawz)
11. This Life I Lead (Ft.Richie Rich & Too Short)
12. Who Do U Believe In - Remix-
CD 2
1. Gettin Blown (Ft.Outlawz)
2. The Rules Of The Game
3. 21 Gun Salute (Ft.Outlawz)
4. Walk Of Grace
5. Die 4 Me (Ft.Outlawz)
6. Extreme Venom (Ft.Crooked I & The Lady of Rage)
7. Wild Wayz Of A Man
8. Revange At All Costs (Ft.kadafi Of The Outlawz)
9. Vally Of Death
10. Crusified
11. Late Nite -Remix-
12. Fortune And Fame (Ft.Outlawz)"

 

[Dante]

Dante!
I totally agree with you.
I would go further and say Interscope should re-master all of the pre-death row releases.
I'd have one question...is it true that Death Row intended to release a 4-disc-compilation under "Makaveli The Vaults (or something like that)" title and Amaru quickly jumped in and got DR to cooperate with them in the release of UTEOT and Better Dayz?
I assume you know of 2pacjapan.net, I know they list many fake tracklist but according to the web site it seems that Death Row had its own plan for posthomus releases like Better Dayz. Can you tell me if those compilations were really produced but had been pushed back because of Amaru entr.?
Here's what I'm talking about:
"2Pac/ The 2nd of Two Double Albums
Recorded during 2Pac's "Makaveli" Period
(Amaru/Death Row/Interscope 2002 March. - Not be released)

CD 1
1. Ghetto Star (Ft.Crooked I)
2. Staring Thru My Rearview II
3. Fair Xchange
4. Play Your Cards Right (Ft.Outlawz)
5. Soon Az I Get Home (Ft.kadafi Of The Outlawz)
6 Mamas Just A Little Girl
7. They Don't Give A Fuck About Us (Ft.Outlawz)
8. Thugz Get Lonely Too
9. When We Come 4 U -Fright Night Remix- (Ft.E.D.I. Of The Outlawz)
10. Fade Me (Ft.Outlawz)
11. This Life I Lead (Ft.Richie Rich & Too Short)
12. Who Do U Believe In - Remix-
CD 2
1. Gettin Blown (Ft.Outlawz)
2. The Rules Of The Game
3. 21 Gun Salute (Ft.Outlawz)
4. Walk Of Grace
5. Die 4 Me (Ft.Outlawz)
6. Extreme Venom (Ft.Crooked I & The Lady of Rage)
7. Wild Wayz Of A Man
8. Revange At All Costs (Ft.kadafi Of The Outlawz)
9. Vally Of Death
10. Crusified
11. Late Nite -Remix-
12. Fortune And Fame (Ft.Outlawz)"

this tracklisting is an old april fools joke made by none other than tewpac

 

[IMAN_B]

i voted for matw, but its a tie between it and dk7....those are better albums but aeom has the most songs which definetly is something that can make you vote on it....anyways....it does change from week to week which one i think is the best!

 

[Rhy]

lol this punk kis claims to go to released partys he dont move from his pc lol

[*]makaveli couldn't have come at a better time for us. pac is dead, death row is in disarray, no one saw this coming. all of a sudden there's a makaveli album slated for release with no indications that it was 2pac to people who wouldn't have known better. a short cd, but every track is fire. it would have been nice to have had a more consistent theme instead of watering down an introspective, vengeful lp with a sex song (toss it up) and just like daddy seems subpar compared to the rest. i'll always remember playing this album at 12:15 after a midnight release party and thinking to myself that this album is an instant classic.

i wasn't going to post, because comparing pac albums to each other isn't fair. let me explain why...

each album is a snapshot of pac's life at the time.

• 2pacalypse now now represents the digital underground 2pac who impressed shock g and the rest of us. street and political at the same time, 2pac became who he was because he took artistic risks on this lp. no one else to this day has revealed a part of their soul like pac did here. likewise, this cd was intended to be a double cd - the first ever for rap music, but was trimmed down into what we know and love. 2pac and du/stretch influenced beats, how can you ever complain? this was the only lp to be released exactly as pac had intended.
• strictly 4 my n.i.g.g.a.z. captures the rage of the day, thanks to the riots and a general theme of racial tension in america at the time. the entire album, minus a few laid back songs, has a message and most of that message is laced with anger. this album is arguably the one in which 2pac says the most in his lyrics. this album is easily my favorite, and desperately needs a remastered release.
• thug life was pac's first opportunity to put people he loved and respected on. unfortunately this album was chopped to hell and back, making it short, but still one of the best of the day. 2pac was incarcerated shortly after its release, making it somewhat of a hollow release in that it didn't ever have a chance to live up to the potential it could have. this album also marks some of warren g's first serious non g-funk crew production and began pac's relationship with persons who would later be an influential factor in his signing to death row.
• matw is an album that believe it or not (i know this firsthand) is an album mainly of thug life scraps. pac was able to record maybe half of these tracks before being incarcerated, the rest being thug life era tracks. this album isn't what it could have been now that we have rusd to know what pac had recorded for some of it, but it's still a classic. it's too bad pac thought he had to rework its theme due to the biggie situation. i would have loved to have heard only fear of death on this one.
• all eyez is hands down a classic, but it's hard for me to liten to this album more than the older shit. the death row balla persona is good, but pac's true voice started to get watered down by the gangsta party vibe death row was pushing at the time. sure you have some introspective tracks, but looking at strictly, where 4/5 tracks represent some degree of artistic risk, all eyez falls a little short. a great album, the first rap double cd, and a legend in its own time, but not his best work.
• makaveli couldn't have come at a better time for us. pac is dead, death row is in disarray, no one saw this coming. all of a sudden there's a makaveli album slated for release with no indications that it was 2pac to people who wouldn't have known better. a short cd, but every track is fire. it would have been nice to have had a more consistent theme instead of watering down an introspective, vengeful lp with a sex song (toss it up) and just like daddy seems subpar compared to the rest. i'll always remember playing this album at 12:15 after a midnight release party and thinking to myself that this album is an instant classic.
• rusd was a sight for sore eyes. the open letter afeni ad placed in it indicating that more pac music would be to come was what we all wanted to hear. 3/4 of the tracks are enhancements of the og's and the track selection was brilliant. hands down, this is the best posthumous release next to makaveli. period.
• uteot, better days. same thing. remixes and a few new songs remixed to hell and back. the only good remixes are the ones death row made, but amaru claimed as theirs. glad they came out. classics? na. a lot of people don't know this, but uteot's blanks were not on the test mixes that death row and amaru had agreed upon. it was only after the album was finalized that the drops were placed in, surprising death row when the album was on shelves and perpetuating the beef between the two labels with legitimate ties to pac's music. ...yet amaru would have you all believe they are the victims...
• loyal to the game is a pathetic marketing gimmick using the fame of two people well known to rap fans and their polar opposites alike. one person, even johnny j, shouldn't have the number of tracks em did on this album. adding yourself to the chorus? especially on pro-black songs? yeah, marshall fucked the pooch.

my choice? i won't vote because each album is a snapshot, but strictly has the most energy and power behind it.
remaster this album, amaru. seriously. what's the problem? you give tracks to san andreas for christ's sake.

 

[Pittsey]

lol this punk kis claims to go to released partys he dont move from his pc lol

[*]makaveli couldn't have come at a better time for us. pac is dead, death row is in disarray, no one saw this coming. all of a sudden there's a makaveli album slated for release with no indications that it was 2pac to people who wouldn't have known better. a short cd, but every track is fire. it would have been nice to have had a more consistent theme instead of watering down an introspective, vengeful lp with a sex song (toss it up) and just like daddy seems subpar compared to the rest. i'll always remember playing this album at 12:15 after a midnight release party and thinking to myself that this album is an instant classic.

Keep your beef out of this thread. It just ends up getting topics closed. But as this thread is sharing a lot of knowledge, I'll probably just delete any further dumb threads.

 

[chomaz]

for me its AEOM

 

[Silleone]

Me Against The World, Too me it was pacs perfect album also the mood of the album is very good, i would say next its 7dt, all eyes on me had a few good cuts but alot of it doesnt stand out compared to MATW, shit, MATW is my fav album of all time so u know what im voting for.

 

[deepa_316]

7 day theory for me. all of them classicz and took me a while choosing but gotta be 7 day theory.
peace

 

[Nut]

Why can't I pick Loyal 2 The Game, i love this album...