McCain supporters, stand up.

Preach

Well-Known Member
#1
Took a look at the poll, 3-400 people wanted McCain.

Explain to me why, after all the Sarah Palin embarassments, you would consider voting for such a robot.

No, actually, give me reasons why anyone wanted McCain. I'd love to hear reasons from people in the US, because then it's a matter of policies that better fit your current life/problems, but more so I'm intrigued by people from outside the US who said they wanted McCain. Please explain. (little poem for ya)
 

Preach

Well-Known Member
#3
lol that guy just wanted to support and improve every facet of any and every social problem anyone might have, huh.

i heard on the news about some woman who carried a licensed gun because "gangsters" shot at her car for fun once, and she was afraid obama might take away her gun carry license. to me that makes sense i guess. i just don't get what people outside of the u.s. are doing hoping for another republican.
 

Snowman

Well-Known Member
#4
I'll play along in your foolish game. Mccain is the lesser of two evils. he's against abortion, he believes in god, he has morals. he's against gay marriages. he isnt a socialist like Obama. Mccain wouldnt give rebate checks to everyone in the US. he would give it to hard working americans. Unlike dipshit Obama give rebate checks to lazy fucks who dont work and hard working americans like me gotta pay for the idiots. Crack Heads that need to quit druggin up an get off their ass and get a job.

Mccain would know what to do when terrorism strikes the US. unlike Obama with his inexperience, he wont know what to do.

get use to Palin she'll be away or for a few years, you'll hear her name in 2012. as will Hillary run too. come 2012... Obama may get knocked out and Hillary could be president.

Im Gracious.. Congrats to Obama he's got a LOT OF WORK to do i hope the man can fix things that Bush screwed up in 8 years. Obama has big shoes to fill, i wish him nothing the best i'll hope and pray that he can step up and deliver.


The real question is can Obama last til Jan 20th?? as i write this you got the white supremacy groups plannin a assassination on the guy. they've busted some but they cant get everybody. (MYSELF) i dont wish death on no one.. but there are your crazy americans that's not gonna wanna live in a country run by a african american. and there not gonna stop by all means.
 

Casey

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Staff member
#5
Mccain is the lesser of two evils. he's against abortion, he believes in god, he has morals. he's against gay marriages.

Being against abortion is not a good thing. You expect women who accidentally get pregnant and can't afford a child to have a baby? That's some fucked up thinking and it ONLY hurts the child to have to grow up in a unprepared poverty-stricken environment. Not to mention the population crisis it would cause it abortion was illegal. Also, what about women that have been raped? As I recall, McCain and Palin were anti-abortion even in that horrible scenario.

It's a WOMANS right to choose what happens to HER OWN BODY. No one elses. Certainly not the government. I wonder how you'd feel if you were a woman.

Secondly, Obama believes in God. Not that that is necessarily a good thing either, more wars and deaths have been caused by religion than anything else in this world.

Thirdly, you said 'he has morals'. So Obama has no morals? I find it hard to believe that someone could inspire so many people with no morals.

Finally, as I understand it, Obama is also against gay marriage so I don't know why you brought that up. Proposition 8 passed (unfortunately), so I guess you're happy about that.
 

Bobby Sands

Well-Known Member
#6
Yea she should keep and raise the baby no matter if it was an accident. Its what was meant to be. I know its would be tough for her to raise the baby, but getting an abortion is a kop out imo.Perhaps that kid could go on to become a great musician or a top football player like others that have come from this background. Perhaps its her purpose in life to raise that kid.

If abortion is legal, then any young slut who sleeps around is entitled to have an abortion and just get rid of here problem like nothing happend and then goes back to sleeping around again until she gets pregnant again.

Now on the other hand if a women is raped and becomes pregnant with her rapist's kid, then i would agree that she shouldn't have to keep the child.

Abortion disgusts me tbh. I could never be with a women who has had a abortion.

Many wars and deaths have been caused by human ignorance and not religion. People use it as an excuse for violence. Believe me, because i live in a country that was divided up over a war between Catholics and Protestants. The main cause of the troubles in the North of Ireland was because the British government continued to rule over the north of Ireland. Oppressed Irish Catholics wanted Ireland to be united while protestants (English descendants) wanted British rule. If the english never came over to take our land then there would be no problem. Religion isn't to blame for that.

I dont give a fuck what gays do as long as they keep away from me :)
 

Casey

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Staff member
#7
Now on the other hand if a women is raped and becomes pregnant with her rapist's kid, then i would agree that she shouldn't have to keep the child.
And even if just for that reason alone, it shouldn't be outlawed.

Here's another example for you Bobby. And this one is very personal to me because it happened to my wife's best friend recently, who was one of the only two guests at our wedding.

She found out she was pregnant. Within the same few days, she also found out that she had cancer of the uterus, leaving her with two options:

1. Abort the child in order to have cancer treatment and survive.

2. Have the child, be unable to have treatment for the cancer and die, leaving a motherless child in the world.

I'm even closer to that situation because my own mother passed away of cancer when I had just turned 5 years old and I wouldn't wish that situation on my worst enemy.

What I'm saying is Bobby, you can't just universally disagree with abortion. You provided an example yourself where you think it's acceptable. There are hundreds of potential scenarios like rape, and my example that could happen.

Also I find it very juvenile (and I don't mean this as a personal attack), that you claim to not be able to be with a woman if she had had an abortion. That's pretty immature thinking. What if you fell in love with her? Are you going to deny yourself the potential love of your life based on one decision that she made, that at the end of the day, is hers and hers alone?

I think if it came to the crunch, and you found yourself in that situation, it wouldn't matter.

And if you really did split up with a girlfriend/fiancee/wife because you found that out, or even worse, didn't consider a potential partner because of that, even if ALL the other boxes were ticked......I have to say, that's pretty pathetic.
 

Bobby Sands

Well-Known Member
#8
^^yea i do agree that a women should be allowed to have an abortion in certain circumstances like the ones you mentioned but i dont think a women should be allowed to have an abortion simply because of an unexpected pregnancy.As i said, its a kop out and a sin imo.

If a girl told me that she had an abortion simply because the pregancy was unexpected then no i would never want to be with her. But on the other hand if she had no choice to have an abortion because of reasons like the ones you mentioned, then yea i could be with her if i loved her.
 

tHuG $TyLe

Well-Known Member
Staff member
#9
And even if just for that reason alone, it shouldn't be outlawed.

Here's another example for you Bobby. And this one is very personal to me because it happened to my wife's best friend recently, who was one of the only two guests at our wedding.

She found out she was pregnant. Within the same few days, she also found out that she had cancer of the uterus, leaving her with two options:

1. Abort the child in order to have cancer treatment and survive.

2. Have the child, be unable to have treatment for the cancer and die, leaving a motherless child in the world.

I'm even closer to that situation because my own mother passed away of cancer when I had just turned 5 years old and I wouldn't wish that situation on my worst enemy.

What I'm saying is Bobby, you can't just universally disagree with abortion. You provided an example yourself where you think it's acceptable. There are hundreds of potential scenarios like rape, and my example that could happen.

Also I find it very juvenile (and I don't mean this as a personal attack), that you claim to not be able to be with a woman if she had had an abortion. That's pretty immature thinking. What if you fell in love with her? Are you going to deny yourself the potential love of your life based on one decision that she made, that at the end of the day, is hers and hers alone?

I think if it came to the crunch, and you found yourself in that situation, it wouldn't matter.

And if you really did split up with a girlfriend/fiancee/wife because you found that out, or even worse, didn't consider a potential partner because of that, even if ALL the other boxes were ticked......I have to say, that's pretty pathetic.
Sad situation there.

I agree about the abortions. I'm all for them :thumb:
 

masta247

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Staff member
#11
I'd vote Obama but McCain is that stereotypical military-worldwar3-fuckcommies type of president. If there was a new war McCain would do a Red Alert on our world and Palin being his bitch, acting as a second biggest capitalistic pig to get whacked by arabs. That would be sort of cool to watch.
I think Obama will be successful at not doing much (not much to fuck things up too so it's better than Bush).

Ah I nearly passed the Allied campaign in Red Alert 3 :D
 

Flipmo

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#12
^^^

Don't say anything about the game. I'm waiting to finish my damn school papers before I get lost in a sea of mechanized cyborgs and mammoth tanks blowing each other up. lol
 

Prize Gotti

Boots N Cats
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#14
I'll play along in your foolish game. Mccain is the lesser of two evils. he's against abortion, he believes in god, he has morals. he's against gay marriages.
You forgot to mention, that several members of his family of his family are members of the KKK, and he associates with high level members of the KKK.

You also forgot to mention the his "party" or whatever you wanted to call it, were telling people not to vote Obama because he is a Muslim, that he was related to Osama Bin Laden and he came from the Middle east., Even though he is Christian, half white, helf Kenyan and was raised in Hawaii..

Maybe McCain could of got more votes by being honest!

And with regards to the Crack heads, you seem to forgot that it was your government that started the crack problem, in the 80's, it was the US government that put the crack on the street. Its only right they clear up the mess THEY created.

And with regards to "War on Terror".
a) America has no right to talk about "War on Terror", every single tax payer in America funded terrorism for 30 years in Ireland.
b) America supplied 90% of all Terrorist and Militia groups with guns, bombs and explosive.
c) America started the war.
 

Preach

Well-Known Member
#15
I'll play along in your foolish game. Mccain is the lesser of two evils. he's against abortion, he believes in god, he has morals. he's against gay marriages. he isnt a socialist like Obama. Mccain wouldnt give rebate checks to everyone in the US. he would give it to hard working americans. Unlike dipshit Obama give rebate checks to lazy fucks who dont work and hard working americans like me gotta pay for the idiots. Crack Heads that need to quit druggin up an get off their ass and get a job.

Mccain would know what to do when terrorism strikes the US. unlike Obama with his inexperience, he wont know what to do.

get use to Palin she'll be away or for a few years, you'll hear her name in 2012. as will Hillary run too. come 2012... Obama may get knocked out and Hillary could be president.

Im Gracious.. Congrats to Obama he's got a LOT OF WORK to do i hope the man can fix things that Bush screwed up in 8 years. Obama has big shoes to fill, i wish him nothing the best i'll hope and pray that he can step up and deliver.


The real question is can Obama last til Jan 20th?? as i write this you got the white supremacy groups plannin a assassination on the guy. they've busted some but they cant get everybody. (MYSELF) i dont wish death on no one.. but there are your crazy americans that's not gonna wanna live in a country run by a african american. and there not gonna stop by all means.
This is the typical bullshit answer I wasn't looking for. Palin will be around in 2012? Search youtube for her man. Every video pokes fun at her. Did you see that hockey game or whatever she went to? They had to drown out the booing with music. If by 2012, Obama manages to retard (as in make retarded) the whole american civilization, maybe. This woman couldn't name one newspaper she reads. She says things because she thinks they will sound good in a certain situation, but she's lying to make herself look good. You want a liar to run your country man? Do you just want to live in that little american ball of bliss you're caught in?

i heard that the kkk didn't want to kill him because they'd make a martyr of him. i don't know what your question about whether or not obama will last has to do with my thread though. it's like you're listing things that are evil and things that could go bad, typical propaganda style, to persuade more people to see the world from your narrow, republican eyes. LMAO at americans' problem with socialism btw. watch the movie "sicko". oh wait, you're probably against everything michael moore ever made, huh? well let's assume he is a giant asshole. i don't really like everything in his movies. but watch that one. take a look at whether or not socialism is such a bad thing. it doesn't make you communists. an avatar of stalin won't pop up in the white house because you loosen up a little. but hey, that also doesn't have anything to do with my question in this thread.

militant already covered me when it comes to your issues with abortion. are you religious? well why don't you and your merry band of godlovers let your own baby girls ruin their lives when they're raped and abused, or when they're whoring around. move to a forest and live there and let people who don't give a shit about religion have a say in things. it's not taking a baby's life, it's saving a young girl's life. i would know, my ex just had one.

can i wager that you voted bush in the last election, or at least in the first? i mean, considering your loyalties that would make sense to me. it's alright that you condemn him, people make mistakes. maybe mccain would make mistakes, and maybe obama will. that's human. but lmao @ the "doesn't know what to do if terrorism strikes". i don't know how to formulate an argument to suggest i disagree with you.

obama is a dipshit but you wish him all the best? you'll play my "foolish game"? it's no foolish game, it's a sincere question. to you it may seem perfectly 100% right that mccain should win and that your ideas and opinions are, lyke, the best d00d. for me, everything you said reeks of stupidity. i'm not suggesting i'm more right than you or the other way around, but i am on the majority side. like i said, it was a sincere question because from my point of view, voting mccain/palin doesn't make any sense. instead of poking fun at you <insert demeaning word>s who hold your opinion, i inquired because it intrigues me. on a larger scale, i wanted to understand the differences between a person like me and a person like you.

"Crack Heads that need to quit druggin up an get off their ass and get a job." whether or not helping these people is a problem that should be handled by the people themselves or society is an ever long, on-going debate. your simplification shows a lack of understanding for the actual problem that drug abuse causes. and for the problem of drug abuse itself. i'll never be able to discuss this with you, but a lot of drug-addicts simply don't care anymore. a prospect you would fail to understand. you can leave them to themselves and not give a rats ass which in turn would, for example, raise the rate of crime. or you could help them out. both sides of the equation have their pros and cons, and it's difficult to pinpoint what is right and what is not. you should be open to seeing both sides of the problem though, not just sit on your moral high horse and condemn drug users. likely, you have no idea what they've been through, no matter how much you believe you yourself have been through.
 

raywaters11

Well-Known Member
#16
if a 12 year old girl is raped and gets pregnant, should she have the baby?

if there is a high chance of the baby AND mother dying during delivery, should they attempt to give birth?

if the parents are on drugs and the baby will be deformed and addicted to meth, should they have the baby?


no, no and no.

gay marriage doesn't apply to me, if they want to get married they will have to pay taxes like us, and that will do nothing but help the economy.

if a gay couple wants to adopt kids, i say that is better than overpacked orphan homes.
 
#18
i'll tell you why people wanted mccain... put yourself in a family with kids and you live in a nice house got a couple nice cars and you're saving money to put your kids through college... then all of a sudden a democrat is elected and that 160k you and your wife are making through work is cut down to 120k and bills are harder to pay and sometimes you have to down grade to a smaller house just so some lazy ass liberal can take your money and spend it on shiny rims... but hey, at least the economy is gonna start booming...
 

S O F I

Administrator
Staff member
#19
This board is very liberal (which i'm fine with) therefore people find it hard to understand why people vote for Republicans. If we could get some intelligent conservatives, debates could be fun. Maybe Jokerman would like to opt to play devil's advocate?

I will, in return, donate to Jokerman's campaign for City Council in...was it somewhere in Delaware?
 

Synful*Luv

Well-Known Member
Staff member
#20
This board is very liberal (which i'm fine with) therefore people find it hard to understand why people vote for Republicans. If we could get some intelligent conservatives, debates could be fun. Maybe Jokerman would like to opt to play devil's advocate?

I will, in return, donate to Jokerman's campaign for City Council in...was it somewhere in Delaware?
I understand where Republicans and most conservatives are coming from I think. Most of the people I work with are conserv. repub. and I've no problem with that although I'm as liberal as they come.
 

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