Lost Air France jet

[S O F I]

Have you guys been following the events of the missing plane?

It's almost on some Lost tip because people are presumed dead but the plane is yet to be found.

Anyway, it's really sad..228 people presumed dead.

Debris 'not from Air France jet'

Debris recovered from the Atlantic by Brazilian search teams does not come from a lost Air France jet, a Brazilian air force official has said.

Brig Ramon Borges Cardoso contradicted earlier reports that debris had been found, saying "no material from the plane has been recovered".

A wooden cargo pallet was taken from the sea, but the Airbus A330 had no wooden pallets on board.

Relatives have been told that there is no hope of survivors being found.

Air France chief executive Pierre-Henri Gourgeon and chairman Jean-Cyril Spinetta briefed the passengers' relatives in a hotel near Paris Charles de Gaulle airport where they have been waiting for news.

Mr Gourgeon said the jet, which was carrying 228 people from Rio de Janeiro to Paris, broke apart either in the air or when it hit the sea.

"What is clear is that there was no landing," said a support group representative who was at the meeting, Guillaume Denoix de Saint-Marc. "There's no chance the escape slides came out."

In Rio de Janeiro, hundreds of people gathered at a memorial service attended by the French and Brazilian foreign ministers.

"Those who are missing are here in our hearts and in our memories," said the French minister, Bernard Kouchner.

A memorial service was held in Paris on Wednesday.

Oil slick

Brazilian navy vessels have been combing the area, about 1,100km (690 miles) north-east of Brazil's coast.

Three more Brazilian boats and a French ship equipped with small submarines are expected to arrive in the area in the next few days.

Brig Cardoso said that fuel found in the sea probably did come from the plane, because it was not of a type used in ships.

However he said a large oil slick photographed in the area was more likely to have come from a ship.

He said the search effort would continue, with the main focus on finding bodies, but bad weather is forecast for the region on Friday.

'Clock ticking'

French military spokesman Christophe Prazuck said the priority was looking for wreckage from the plane, before turning the search to flight data recorders.

"The clock is ticking on finding debris before they spread out and before they sink or disappear," he said.

French officials have said the recorders, which could be deep under water, may never be found.
FLIGHT AF 447 TIMELINE
# Plane left Rio de Janeiro at 1900 local time (2200 GMT) on 31 May
# Contact lost 0130 GMT
# Had been due to land at 1110 local time (0910 GMT) in Paris

Officials have warned that they are far from working out the cause of the crash.

Investigators are reported to be relying on a stream of automated messages sent out just before the crash, which suggested the plane's systems shut down as it flew through high thunderstorms.

Investigators have suggested that speed sensors failed or iced over, causing erroneous data to be fed to onboard computers. This might have caused the plane to fly too fast or too slowly through the storm, leading it either to break apart or stall and fall out of the sky.

A Spanish pilot flying in the area at the time of the crash was quoted by his airline, Air Comet, as saying he had seen an "intense flash of white light, which followed a descending and vertical trajectory and which broke up in six seconds".

The paper said Airbus, the maker of the plane, would issue A330 jets with new advice on flying in storms.

Airbus declined to comment on the report, though an unnamed official told AFP news agency that it was normal to update airlines following an accident.

 

[Flipmo]

So, the debris found previously, doesn't belong to the Air France jet? ... Back to 0 it seems.

It's very hard to believe that nothing's going to be found.... This is some Bermuda Triangle kind of shit if you ask me.

 

[ArtsyGirl]

Damn, havent heard much about this except something mentioned during the Lakers V Magic game.. Hope they can find the site.

 

[Stred]

I have a feeling they will be ok.

 

[tHuG $TyLe]

Theyre probably in 1976.

 

[Bobby Sands]

3 Irish girls were on it

 

[masta247]

Old news

What was sort of suspicious to me that there were so many different strange theories on this. Also they know where did it disappear from the radar meaning normally that's where it would crash. They would have exact coordinates of where to search for it. What is this some kind of stealth aircraft?

2 Polish guys were there also.

 

[Flipmo]

There we no Croats on board, we're too broke and dirty to get onto a plane

 

[Duke]

Old news

What was sort of suspicious to me that there were so many different strange theories on this. Also they know where did it disappear from the radar meaning normally that's where it would crash. They would have exact coordinates of where to search for it. What is this some kind of stealth aircraft?

2 Polish guys were there also.

Radar isn't infallible. Especially in a big ass thuderstorm. Combine that with a plane hurtling downwards from about 8/9 kilometers up, and your last coords aren't that exact anymore.

That's of course assuming the aircraft went down in one piece. If she broke up in the air, you're not gonna find anything since the wreckage would be dispersed over a very wide area. Radar readings wouldn't help shit.

 

[_carmi]

it's sad and so strange.

1 Canadian on board. Dunno if there were any Italians.

 

[keco52]

I didn't know that in a plane crash they tell you to put your head between your legs so it doesn't get ripped off and roll around the aisles.

(or someone is bsing me)

also the force rips all your limbs off and you get severed in half by the seatbelt.

 

[Flipmo]

Thanks for the info Keco, just what I need to know on a Friday morning.
I was excited to see The Hangover tonight, but now all I have in my head are limbs flying across the plane, and heads rolling down the aisle like a bowling ball.

lol

 

[Duke]

It's partially true though. Upon impact, you get torn apart like a ragdoll.

 

[keco52]

^My oops Flipmo. I work with the Air Force and the SMSgt told me they take foot impressions bc that's the only thing they'd prob be able to identify in a crash.

but he likes to bs with me so I dk...

 

[masta247]

Radar isn't infallible. Especially in a big ass thuderstorm. Combine that with a plane hurtling downwards from about 8/9 kilometers up, and your last coords aren't that exact anymore.

That's of course assuming the aircraft went down in one piece. If she broke up in the air, you're not gonna find anything since the wreckage would be dispersed over a very wide area. Radar readings wouldn't help shit.

Yes but if it went down in one piece then they sort of know where to search for it. They at least can tell in which area they have to search. From what I've heard they have no idea. I remember them saying that it can be near Brazil as well as Morocco lol

So either
a) In best case they are going to find a floating piece of that plane.
b) they would already find a crashed plane in one piece.

 

[Duke]

^ Well, it went haywire between radar coverages and since it was going through a thunderstorm heavy area, radio contact isn't reliable either.

So yeah, they have a godawful amount of ground to cover. It won't be anywhere near Morocco, though, lol. The FP didn't take them over there.

And it's unlikely they're gonna find an intact aircraft. Very unlikely.

 

[Bobby Sands]

They need to find out what caused this crash.

This was a relatively new model of airbus i believe. I think i saw one of these being tested at the airport i worked in a couple of years ago before they were distributed for use on commercial flights.

 

[Duke]

They need to find out what caused this crash.

This was a relatively new model of airbus i believe. I think i saw one of these being tested at the airport i worked in a couple of years ago before they were distributed for use on commercial flights.

Yeah, it's not that old. Introduced in the mid 90's, so. It's not even on half it's lifespan yet.

Also, this was first crash-accident with a 330. Very important they figure this one out.

Gotta find it first, though. :worried:

 

[keco52]

Duke's knowledge of airplanes is making my downstairs tingly :worried:

 

[Bobby Sands]

Yeah, it's not that old. Introduced in the mid 90's, so. It's not even on half it's lifespan yet.

Also, this was first crash-accident with a 330. Very important they figure this one out.

Gotta find it first, though. :worried:

ok im thinking of a different model of airbus then because the one being test flown at the airport was a new model. this was 3 or 4 years ago.