Japan's Nuclear Reactors

Jokerman

Well-Known Member
#1
The Japanese govt and the company that owns the nuclear reactors need to stop underplaying everything related to it. Also, the US media needs to get on the ball with this. They needed to bury this shit in concrete a week ago. They need to halt the sale of food grown and milk 100 miles around the reactors until there is no more radiaton falling and the ground is cleaned up. Everyone in the world will eventually have some radiation in them that originated from these reactors. That's how invasive that shit is once it gets into the atmosphere. And if there's a meltdown in just one of them, we will all get a lot of it. Any amount increases your risk of cancer.
 

Elmira

Well-Known Member
#2
We have to remember how much the Japanese government is dealing with: earthquakes, tsunamis, nuclear explosions, a looming financial crisis as exports will decline due to traces of harmful radioactive elements in the food. Imagine the shock. If you think you can do a better job go ahead, but it's not fair to criticize given the circumstances, I think.
 

Bobby Sands

Well-Known Member
#3
well at least they are handling it better than the Soviets did with Chernobyl.

and how do you reckon they would have poured concrete over it a week ago?

a huge amount of concrete would have been required to put something over them like that sarcophagus they put over the reactor at chernobyl. how would they have transported that amount of concrete to the site a week ago?
 

vg4030

Well-Known Member
#5
If you think you can do a better job go ahead, but it's not fair to criticize given the circumstances, I think.
How does that make sense? I hate when people say that, like he should just raise his hand and the Japanese will listen.

Anyway, I think they are doing pretty well dealing with the site itself. Those 180 or so guys who have pretty much walked to their deaths in dealing with the plants are real heroes. The other 600 employees just bailed.

They have announced that radiation was found in milk and a few other things. The odd part is that they are 'considering' stopping the sale of products from the affected area! WTF?

Im guessing their protectionist measures on rice imports will have to be lifted now?
 

Bobby Sands

Well-Known Member
#8
btw concrete wouldnt have worked either so it wasnt an option for them. there would have been far too much heat there to just throw concrete over them. concrete would only work when the heat of the molten fuel is low.
 

Rukas

Capo Dei Capi
Staff member
#9
We have to remember how much the Japanese government is dealing with: earthquakes, tsunamis, nuclear explosions, a looming financial crisis as exports will decline due to traces of harmful radioactive elements in the food. Imagine the shock.
All the more reason that they should have taken care of it quick instead of trying to save the reactors for future use they should have poured grafite and cement over it when they had a chance.

Not to mention those fail safes should have been put in place from day one.

If you think you can do a better job go ahead, but it's not fair to criticize given the circumstances, I think.
And how would you like him to do that? Call up his buddy Naoto Kan? Take over the government? Hijack a plane full of cement and dump it over the reactors? Fly backwards around the Earth fast enough to turn back time? Combine his five rings to form Captain Planet?
 

Flipmo

VIP Member
Staff member
#10
I don't get Japan sometimes.

"Following is a translation from an original Youtube uploader's writeup:
This video was created based on the simple analysis
of the current state of the Fukushima Nuclear power plant by media artist Kazuhiko Hachiya"


 

Bobby Sands

Well-Known Member
#11
All the more reason that they should have taken care of it quick instead of trying to save the reactors for future use they should have poured grafite and cement over it when they had a chance.

Not to mention those fail safes should have been put in place from day one.


And how would you like him to do that? Call up his buddy Naoto Kan? Take over the government? Hijack a plane full of cement and dump it over the reactors? Fly backwards around the Earth fast enough to turn back time? Combine his five rings to form Captain Planet?

look. pouring concrete on it would not have worked at that stage. and it was not possible.

and they werent trying to save the reactors for future use. Pumping sea water into them meant they would be written off and cant be used to produce electricity ever again.
 

Rukas

Capo Dei Capi
Staff member
#12
look. pouring concrete on it would not have worked at that stage. and it was not possible.

and they werent trying to save the reactors for future use. Pumping sea water into them meant they would be written off and cant be used to produce electricity ever again.
Well then, it looks like it's up to Jokerman then...
 

Jokerman

Well-Known Member
#13
and how do you reckon they would have poured concrete over it a week ago?

a huge amount of concrete would have been required to put something over them like that sarcophagus they put over the reactor at chernobyl. how would they have transported that amount of concrete to the site a week ago?
Sand, boric acid and concrete to be precise. They could have and can do it by mobilizing the Japanese Air Force, construction helicopters, and by asking the US to help. Construction helicopters can carry 3-5 tons of stuff in one dump. Keep dumping it until there's no more radiation. Of course it would work at this stage. If it worked when Chernobyl was on meltdown, it will work before meltdown.
 

Pittsey

Knock, Knock...
Staff member
#14
It looked like a backwards attempt to me. Did you see how precise the water drops were. They weren't. It was very poor.

I think people sitting back and saying "look the Japanese are grief stricken and need time to recover". "Look what their facing". Is a weak move. Foreign Governments should be demanding action now. If you aren't going to take care of the shit when it hits the fan you shouldn't be allowed to mess with Nuclear Reactors.
 

vg4030

Well-Known Member
#15
the ROW are too busy effing up Qaddafi. I havent heard a major European politician even mention Japan in the last 2/3 days
 

masta247

Well-Known Member
Staff member
#16
Yup actually I get that impression that westerners always find something to draw attention to when there's something they'd rather just leave or do behind everybody's backs.
At least it works that way here. Whenever there's something that people should be pissed off about they come up with a political war on something that nobody should care about.

Which doesn't change the fact that I'm absolutely impressed with the Japanese society. They stand in lines for 36 hours straight and nobody even robs the vending machines that just stand there with drinks and snacks inside, and people share everything they have with those who have nothing. Anywhere else in the world people would kill themselves over anything and later they would start a huge riot demolishing everything that is left.
 

Jokerman

Well-Known Member
#17
Of course, now they say the tap water in Tokyo is too radioactive for babies to drink. But, what, it's still safe for adults? Go get fucked. And how much stuff is made with tapwater that is then sent overseas to places like the US? You think they're going to stop using it? Of course not.

No more nukes.
 

_carmi

me, myself & us
#19
the shit over there is fucked up. i praise the Japanese big time for how they are handling their national crisis. if this happened, u best believe chaos would follow.

why would they not put concrete over it if that was the perfect solution? they must have an explanation for it.
and yes i'm kind of worried of the worldwide repercussions of this nuclear crisis. its getting in the atmosphere, this means its getting everywhere. i feel governments are downplaying this issue when they shouldnt.
 

Jokerman

Well-Known Member
#20
Japan's damaged nuclear plant in Fukushima has been emitting radioactive iodine and caesium at levels approaching those seen in the aftermath of the Chernobyl accident in 1986. Austrian researchers have used a worldwide network of radiation detectors – designed to spot clandestine nuclear bomb tests – to show that iodine-131 is being released at daily levels 73 per cent of those seen after the 1986 disaster. The daily amount of caesium-137 released from Fukushima Daiichi is around 60 per cent of the amount released from Chernobyl.

http://www.newscientist.com/article...dioactive-fallout-nears-chernobyl-levels.html

Low radiation levels have reached as far as Sweden, according to the Swedish Radiation Safety Authority. Leif Moberg, head of research for the authority, said there have been readings of radioactive iodine in Sweden, as expected, but the amount is "very low and it does not pose any health risk at all for humans or the environment." (Go get fucked.)
 

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