iTouch vs. iPhone

S O F I

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#1
I don't get it.

iTouch is basically an iPhone without the ability to phone people. So, why would I pay 300 for a phone-less phone when I can pay 400 for a iTouch + phone?
 

S. Fourteen

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#2
Maybe because there is something like a $3000 commitment in buying an iPhone if you don't hack it and switch the sim card.

Apple entering the phone market is an expansion plan by Steve Jobs and Co. iTunes iTunes iTunes. Ringtones Ringtones Ringtones (Oh how they are so annoying and it's going to be much easier for people to create really super duper personal custom tone to annoy everybody at the checkout).

I bought the iPod touch because I didn't want the weakest part of the iPhone - the phone. I will most likely buy an iPhone in the future when things look better, after Apple gains the mobile phone market share they desire.

I think somewhere along the way, the backbone of the iPhone, the multi-touch interface, naturally became a part of the iPod, but Steve can't shit on the customers by suddenly switching to a 16GB flash iPod, hence you get the iPod classic and the iPod touch. (I think we will see more interesting multi-touch things coming from Apple in the coming years..)

When I starting using the touch, I really felt that devices like the touch in the near future would eventually replace phones and laptops. Despite the limitation added by Apple to protect the devices from harmful things on the net and mostly to protect the profits - they are really cool when it comes to their capabilities.
 

S. Fourteen

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#4
The space limitation is not an issue, really. 16 and even 8 goes a long ways if you don't dump those gigs and gigs of old mixtapes (those mixtapes you never listen to but have just to have it).

I have a 25GB online storage. From there I can access any Tupac song I want remotely. You can stream your entire collection if you want to. There's a program to remotely access your home computer from the touch. I have 12 gigs free on the touch and I have plenty of content.

Movies have an issue with onlya room for 3 or 4 shrunk DVD rips on the 16 but that's plenty of entertainment for a plane ride. Watching movies on screen that size is not my thing tho.

Ps. thank you for making this thread, I love you SOFI
 

S O F I

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#5
Well, I'm already with AT&T so the only downside is that it seems that my 2 year contract would be renewed so as if I just got the plan, if I purchased an iPhone. That sucks. On the other hand, I wouldn't be switching to another company.

I just picture myself somewhere with the Touch and not being able to send a fuckin text message. It'd piss me off.
 

Casey

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#6
fuck an iPhone. I want an iPod touch though.

Touch screen and wi-fi is cool for an iPod. But touch screen phones just fucking piss me off.
 

S. Fourteen

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#7
Good deal. That's minimum of $20 a month on top of your existing monthly fee with 200 SMS Text Messages. $30 for 1500 SMS and $40 for unlimited. While I get free WiFi at work, at coffee shops around the corner, at McDonalds, etc etc and send free SMS text through a Safari Webapp. Granted, I would never be able to use the touch as a GPS device while driving like I can with an iPhone but Minneapolis is going city wide WiFi within two years. I think United Airlines is offering in-flight WiFi these days so it's pretty clear that WiFi will be everywhere (at least in populated areas). The internet is the superior communication network compared to phones networks and WiFi, in most cases, is faster than the EDGE plan offered by AT&T.
The only thing the iPhone can show off is the camera, in my view.
 

THEV1LL4N

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#8
The space limitation is not an issue, really. 16 and even 8 goes a long ways if you don't dump those gigs and gigs of old mixtapes (those mixtapes you never listen to but have just to have it).

I have a 25GB online storage. From there I can access any Tupac song I want remotely. You can stream your entire collection if you want to. There's a program to remotely access your home computer from the touch. I have 12 gigs free on the touch and I have plenty of content.

Movies have an issue with onlya room for 3 or 4 shrunk DVD rips on the 16 but that's plenty of entertainment for a plane ride. Watching movies on screen that size is not my thing tho.

Ps. thank you for making this thread, I love you SOFI
how do u stream ur music from home?
 

S O F I

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#11
Good deal. That's minimum of $20 a month on top of your existing monthly fee with 200 SMS Text Messages. $30 for 1500 SMS and $40 for unlimited. While I get free WiFi at work, at coffee shops around the corner, at McDonalds, etc etc and send free SMS text through a Safari Webapp. Granted, I would never be able to use the touch as a GPS device while driving like I can with an iPhone but Minneapolis is going city wide WiFi within two years. I think United Airlines is offering in-flight WiFi these days so it's pretty clear that WiFi will be everywhere (at least in populated areas). The internet is the superior communication network compared to phones networks and WiFi, in most cases, is faster than the EDGE plan offered by AT&T.
The only thing the iPhone can show off is the camera, in my view.
But, then the iPhone has wi-fi as well. Now, if you'd be courteous enough to tell me how I could send free sms via the web, I might consider getting the touch. :D

What does the touch have that the iphone doesn't, though? Nothing. I just feel like money-comparison wise, the iTouch shouldn't be priced so high relative to the price of the iPhone.
 

masta247

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#12
buy yourself a good pda like good old dell x30 for max 200$, it has bluetooth and wifi + 624mhz intel processor.

Install Skype.
Call and text for free whenever you like.
+
much much bigger possibilities than any apple pocket device.


I never understood people who bought all those shitty gadgets.
 

S. Fourteen

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#13
This just confirmed by a hacker over at iPod Touch Fans-

Audio-in for the touch is active. I heard the audio codec gives a so-so quality audio but phone calls on the touch is headset and a Skype like program away. Yes, phone calls on touch.

--

masta - maybe you'll never get.

S O F I - an 8 GB iPhone costs $399 at the Apple Store. a 16GB touch costs $399 at the Apple Store. The price difference between the 8GB touch and the 16GB is $100. I fail to see your logic.

Sandeep - you can sign up with places like http://www.mediamax.com/
I actually prefer www.box.net because they offer a Safari WebApp that makes the transfers all pretty and neat. I recently purchased iGet Mobile at http://www.nakahara-informatics.com/igetmobile/. I believe there are one or two comparable apps for Windows. Just make sure the files uploaded are compatible with the iPod/iPhone - mp3, ACC, mp4 and mov are all fine.

SMS webapp http://www.apple.com/webapps/utilities/freesms.html
There are more than one way to send texts to phone from the touch, and there are more to come.

[EDIT] Just found an instruction to WiFi synching on Windows.

http://youbegin.blogspot.com/2007/11/mlipod-winamp-iphone-sync-true.html

Still a rough draft, but it can be done. Hope for a release of stable native app to do this with a push of a button. The downside is this might fuck up your wired synching.. and of course no Calendar and Contacts synching but that's less of an issue on Windows.

[EDIT2] http://www.apple.com/webapps/socialnetworking/webotforiphone.html

just found another interesting remote access(?) app. I'll test out and see how it work.

S O F I - that Free SMS app seems to suck a bit, I'll try to find a better one.

[EDIT3]

Sandeep - www.webot.com is the best option I've encountered for media stream. Still in beta so I see some bugs that needs to be fixed but the Flash web interface (on home computer) looks pretty good and it does what it needs to do. Audio sounded good and I didn't have any issues with speed. I hope it stays free.
 

S. Fourteen

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#15
Alright, S O F I

Those SMS WebApps officially suck for a few reasons. Some will send multiple messags and it's tagged up the wazoo.

A much better way to send SMS text on your iPod touch through WiFi:

Go into MobileMail
Send the message to 1(the phone number)@(SMS gateway)

to send a text to The Wood, it would be 10403960351@(his SMS gateway)

Here's the list of gateway addresses
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMS_gateways

Save the mobile profiles and it will be easy as sending an email.

The texts sent from your mail.app will show up like this (at least on mine)

youremail@ddress
/Title/
Message




No monthly fee. Just hope that your friends can email you back for some two-way action. hehe
 

S O F I

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#16
I appreciate the help, [ali g] fo real [/ali g].

So, if i send an SMS through mobile e-mail, my friends won't get an sms in their inbox, they'll get an e-mail?
 

S. Fourteen

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#17
^ They'll get an actual SMS message but it will show up like I described above. The problem is they won't be able to reply with SMS - there are some ways to do SMS to Email but it's rather silly to teach that process to every contact, so just hope they can send an email to you through their phone.
 

S. Fourteen

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#18
S O F I, things just got better. This is the easiest way. I feel silly for not realizing this before.

I have Tmobile. I'm not sure how this will work on other carriers/phones

-Send SMS text to 1(phone number)@(gateway address)

-With Tmobile, the message will appear on the receivers end as such;
email address
/ Title /
Message


-The receiver should hit reply to send text.

The speed is pretty good. Not much delay compared to other methods I tried, although it seems to have trouble sending stacks of replies (and the stacked replies looks messy on my phone screen). I would recommend the sender (the iPod touch user) to compose a new email for every text. Save the phonenumber@gateway profiles to make the emailing speedy. No work-around needed for the receiver.

There ya go, free email-to-SMS/SMS-to-email on the iPod touch.
 

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