Hail Mary-Fatal Credited?

[Bobby Sands]

I remember in another thread,someone said that Hussein Fatal was credited for Hail Mary even though he doesnt appear on the song.

This leads me to believe that perhaps he wrote Young Noble's verse.Either he wrote the verse for Young Noble or he was meant to appear on the song originally but was taken off after he got kicked out of the Outlawz(he was kicked out for taking Pac's jeep while drunk and crashing it).Maybe Young Noble was brought in a rapped Fatal's verse instead and just changed it around a bit.iF true,this is a pity.

What leads me to think that Fatal originally wrote the verse?

On Fatalveli VOL.2 for those that have it,there is a song called You Deserve.The song has Monica singing on it and uses the Hail Mary beat(slightly changed).Fatal raps a small verse towards the end and raps a verse which is similar in parts to Noble's on Hail Mary..

Just a thought.

 

[Dante]

no, noble actually wrote his own verse on this song. i haven't looked in the liner notes to verify your comment about fatal being credited, but regardless, noble actually wrote a decent verse himself this time around. nothing was changed on the "og" other than the addition of the break beat breaks chant and the interludes. fatal's verse on monica's track was done years years years later and was written to reference the original track, hence the lyrical similarities.

 

[Mr.Deuce]

interesting ish.

 

[terik17]

Actually the Monica song Fatal verse he spit is a Second verse cause monica asked to write a new verse cause the first verse was to hard..she said....and yes this is True Cause Fatal is my dude.....

 

[Bobby Sands]

It was just a thought i had when listening to You Deserve.Wonder why Fatal is credited though.Im gonna go rooting through my cds now to find out for sure.

 

[Nut]

So Fatal wrote a verse for Hail Mary when pac was alive ?

 

[Diaz]

So Fatal wrote a verse for Hail Mary when pac was alive ?

No, that wasn't said anywhere.

 

[Cheesyphily16]

I've never known why Fatal had a fallout with the outlawz in the first place. I know he crashed pac's range rover without permission to drive it but if that's the primary reason behind their relationship goin sour it seems they wanted him out in order to get a bigger piece of the pie. Anyone know the reason behind Fatal fallin out with the lawz?

 

[Morris]

^ I'm sure Fatal's being locked up didn't help. Especially when the Outlawz could then do new verses and replace old ones on the original tracks and then put them out on posthumous albums.

Anyway, I always figured Fatal was credited for the hook after Noble's verse.

 

[DeeezNuuuts83]

Anyone know the reason behind Fatal fallin out with the lawz?

I know this is going off topic, but the "fallout" was basically the Outlawz being a bunch of fags:
* They removed Fatal not only from the songs but even from the pictures in Still I Rise.
* In an interview recorded from jail, Fatal talked about how he was mad about the night Pac got shot. He felt that the Outlawz should've always been by his side and should've been the ones to step to Orlando Anderson rather than Pac. He was also mad about them not chasing the Cadillac or anything after the assailants blasted at Pac and Suge.
* In that same interview, he was pissed about how it Napoleon's cousin was the one who "accidentally" killed Kadafi. Apparently Fatal wanted to kill the guy (and was actually periodically cruising through the guy's neighborhood) but the Outlawz kept trying to calm Fatal down, almost defending the guy who killed Kadafi, Fatal's homeboy.
* Outlawz squashed beef with Mobb Deep (as seen on the Outlawz Worldwide DVD), but Mobb Deep still made a song or two afterward with Pac disses, and nothing happened.
* Outlawz eventually became a bunch of dumbasses, really. Fatal didn't really want to be a part of it and wanted to do his own thing musically.

 

[KJ1]

i thought fatal wrote the part of hail mary where it goes "outlawz on the paper chase can u relate" and etc.... you know what im talkin bout...... think i read it somewhere

 

[DeeezNuuuts83]

i thought fatal wrote the part of hail mary where it goes "outlawz on the paper chase can u relate" and etc.... you know what im talkin bout...... think i read it somewhere

No you didn't. If I recall correctly, I think it was Noble who said he wrote it in XXL's Making of Makaveli issue.

 

[Kadafi Son]

^^In that article, I thought it said Kadafi AND FATAL said those lyrics together. Correct me if I'm wrong

 

[DeeezNuuuts83]

Fatal wasn't around for the recording of Makaveli, hence his absence throughout the entire album. But read this excerpt from XXL:

Altogether, "Hail Mary" took maybe 30 minutes. It probably took about 15 minutes to write it and about five minutes to lay it. We laid the shit, my verse was already written. I had it in my book. I wrote the last little hook part, "Outlawz on a paper chase..." That was going to be the hook at first. I had that hook already, and I was like, "Yeah 'Pac, I got a little hook." He was like, "Nah, we going to put that at the end." And then he came up with the "Hail Mary" shit. 'Pac, he wrote from the heart, so it wasn't even like writing, it was like talking.

 

[EDouble]

could it be noble wrote it, yak/fatal rapped it?

 

[DeeezNuuuts83]

could it be noble wrote it, yak/fatal rapped it?

Noble wrote it, Kadafi is definitely rapping it, Fatal is definitely NOT. Noble is rapping it too, you can hear him a little bit.

 

[Kadafi Son]

Noble wrote it, Kadafi is definitely rapping it, Fatal is definitely NOT. Noble is rapping it too, you can hear him a little bit.

I don't know. Maybe you're right, but Fatal sounds a lot like Kadafi. When I first got into the finding out which Outlaw is which, I found it kinda hard to tell whose who with Kadafi and Fatal. But then, I learned to recognize them by there flows. Kadafi's obviously more wilder with his and Fatal has more of that standard flow but with great vocab.

 

[chaloveli]

is og the verse young noble?

 

[Bobby Sands]

Well,ive looked in my Makaveli-DK7 Day Theory and Greatest Hits booklets and Fatal is credited in neither.I should have done this b4 i posted this.

Someone said that Fatal was credited in the booklets.

The outlawz rapping in Hail Mary are:Kastro and Young Noble.Neither Kadafi or Fatal appear in it.

 

[Diaz]

Well,ive looked in my Makaveli-DK7 Day Theory and Greatest Hits booklets and Fatal is credited in neither.I should have done this b4 i posted this.

I've checked myself and he's credited. It's mispelled as "Fetal" though.