Government to beat obesity epidemic by PAYING fat people to lose weight

k69atie

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#1
Fat people could be paid to lose weight under Government plans to tackle obesity.


Ministers said the Health Service and employers could give vouchers to the overweight to spend on healthy food in supermarkets.


They also suggested that those who manage to lose weight could be given cash prizes.

Britain is in the grip of an obesity epidemic. A quarter of all adults and one in five children are obese.

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Experts say that by 2050 at least 60 per cent of the population will be obese.

But the Government strategy risks provoking accusations of a nanny state culture because it also urges schools to appoint "lunchbox police" to check that pupils' food is healthy.

Other ideas in the 40-page report are for compulsory cookery lessons for pupils and at least five hours of school sport a week - up from the present average of two hours.

There will be a healthy food labelling scheme and ministers want councils to use planning laws to limit the number of fast food outlets near schools and parks.

But one of the most controversial parts of the report is a plan to give the overweight financial incentives to maintain a healthy lifestyle.

It said: "We will look at using financial incentives, such as payments, vouchers and other rewards, to encourage individuals to lose weight and sustain that weight loss, to eat more healthily, or to be consistently more physically active."

No firm ideas have been put forward but sources say it could include vouchers to buy healthy foods, or prizes for those who manage to cut their weight.

Ministers are looking at a range of U.S. incentive schemes, such as one run by a private health insurer which allows clients to choose from a range of prizes if they manage to keep the weight off.

And the report commends two weight loss competitions run by British employers.

One firm had a "Biggest Loser" scheme, an eight-week individual weight loss competition.

The man and woman who achieved the greater percentage weight loss received £130 in shopping vouchers, while the man and woman who lost the most weight circumference got £30 each.

Participants lost up to 6.4 per cent of their weight.

In another scheme, Cold Turkey, workers were grouped into teams.

The team with the greatest percentage weight loss every week received a fruit basket and the team with the greatest weight loss at the end of 11 weeks got a trophy.

The report says: "We need to rework the incentives for individuals and public bodies to encourage actions now, thereby avoiding much larger costs in later years.

"In the U.S., for example, there is some evidence that small financial payments, as part of broader programmes to tackle obesity, have proven particularly effective in incentivising individuals to both achieve and maintain weight loss.

"However, we are a long way from understanding what kinds of incentives work, which groups might be most affected by them, and how cost-effective these incentives are."

It also raises the possibility of giving employers grants to make healthy options available in staff canteens, provide fitness facilities and invest in facilities for cyclists.

The report said: "Employers will reap the benefits in improved productivity, high staff morale and retention, and reduce sickness absence costs."

Health Secretary Alan Johnson and Schools Secretary Ed Balls yesterday launched the strategy, which promises an extra £372million to help people live healthier lives.

Mr Johnson said: "Tackling obesity is the most significant public and personal health challenge facing our society.

"The core of the problem is simple - we eat too much and we do too little exercise.

"The solution is more complex. From the nature of the food we eat, to the built environment, through to the way our children lead their lives, it is harder to avoid obesity in the modern environment.

"It is not the Government's role to hector or lecture people, but we do have a duty to support them in leading healthier lifestyles.

"This will only succeed if the problem is recognised, owned and addressed in every part of society."

Some £30million of the extra funds will be spent on the creation of "healthy towns" to promote physical activity, and £75million will go on an advertising campaign to promote a healthy diet and exercise.

The Government also reiterated its target of cutting the proportion of overweight and obese youngsters to 2000 levels by 2020.

Conservative health spokesman Andrew Lansley said Mr Johnson was "dithering" over food labelling.

He said: "Obesity takes a huge toll on people's lives and is set to cost the NHS tens of billions of pounds a year by 2050. Is this really the best the Government can come up with?

"The Government had no obesity strategy whatsoever until 2004; now half the 2004 strategy has been repackaged because it simply hasn't been delivered."

Dr Colin Waine, chairman of the National Obesity Forum, welcomed the report. But he added: "We are disappointed that the issue of food labelling still has not been resolved.

"And we would have liked to have seen legislation to end the advertising of energy dense food to children."

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Is this some sort of fucking joke???!!!
 

ill-matic

Well-Known Member
#2
what the fuck? i hate fatty obese people. i was walking in a crowded street and i happened to be behind this woman with a massive ass. she was moving slow and held me up. why? all cos of that Mack Truck sized ass of hers
 

Preach

Well-Known Member
#4
a) people with a high metabolism will never understand a fat person. you talk from the perspective of someone who doesn't have a hard time staying fit or not being fat. and if you feel like you're giving it your all, it still would take more for an obese person to maintain the same fitness. in that sense, obesity is as much a disease as social phobia or a malfunctioning liver. you already pay for all those things no?

b) out of all those fat people are potential rocket scientists, policemen, firefighters, teachers, researchers and potentially the person who will cure aids.

c) i wouldn't want to pay either.
 

ill-matic

Well-Known Member
#6
a) people with a high metabolism will never understand a fat person. you talk from the perspective of someone who doesn't have a hard time staying fit or not being fat. and if you feel like you're giving it your all, it still would take more for an obese person to maintain the same fitness. in that sense, obesity is as much a disease as social phobia or a malfunctioning liver. you already pay for all those things no?

b) out of all those fat people are potential rocket scientists, policemen, firefighters, teachers, researchers and potentially the person who will cure aids.

c) i wouldn't want to pay either.
for part A i smell a little bit of BS. i mean.. obesity rates have risen by like 20% within the past 20 years havent they? is this all due to people suddenly having slower metabolism rates? no i dont think so. i think it's because of a growing junk food culture in our society. coupled with rampant consumerism, people just dont stop themselves from indulging in shitty, fatty foods. furthermore, the work-life balance i believe has receded into obscurity, to a point where there is no longer time available to make a home cooked meal. there are easier, simpler alternatives, like fast food/takeaway.

to a point it is a disease, and a "disorder".. but i think thats a cop out. people have just become big fatties who dont give a fuck about watching what they eat.
 

k69atie

SicC's Love
#7
Sorry but some people are fat cos they eat to much - simple as!!!

I understand if people have a medical problem which can make them struggle with their weight.

All other's need to stop eating McDonalds.
 

Preach

Well-Known Member
#9
for part A i smell a little bit of BS. i mean.. obesity rates have risen by like 20% within the past 20 years havent they? is this all due to people suddenly having slower metabolism rates? no i dont think so. i think it's because of a growing junk food culture in our society. coupled with rampant consumerism, people just dont stop themselves from indulging in shitty, fatty foods. furthermore, the work-life balance i believe has receded into obscurity, to a point where there is no longer time available to make a home cooked meal. there are easier, simpler alternatives, like fast food/takeaway.

to a point it is a disease, and a "disorder".. but i think thats a cop out. people have just become big fatties who dont give a fuck about watching what they eat.
yeah, i totally see those arguments. i believe it's not that simple, but ultimately, i agree with you.
 
#11
a) people with a high metabolism will never understand a fat person. you talk from the perspective of someone who doesn't have a hard time staying fit or not being fat. and if you feel like you're giving it your all, it still would take more for an obese person to maintain the same fitness. in that sense, obesity is as much a disease as social phobia or a malfunctioning liver. you already pay for all those things no?

b) out of all those fat people are potential rocket scientists, policemen, firefighters, teachers, researchers and potentially the person who will cure aids.

c) i wouldn't want to pay either.
Firstly you are wrong. Any one person that has a disease can relate to a fat person. Secondly obesity is no disease. You can fight fat, you cant fight MS or cancer or any other number of fucked up things a person can have. On the other hand people with say MS can understand the feeling of self pity and the thought of it being their own faults that causes the disease in the first place. Some people just eat to much junk and dont move around enough NOT A DISEASE just lazy and fat.
list of things that bother a fat person
-Self confidence or lack of
-Loss of movement
-Depression
-Anxiety
-Loss of breath
List of things that bother a diseased person
SAME AS ABOVE PLUS SOME with no end.
People that are fat dont have to depend on a doctor every two weeks and meds every single day or have to shoot them sevels with needles just to be able to move and breathe and eat and sleep. I think you get the point.... And dont talk about the fat people with diabetes do to malnutrition or whatever else that got b/c they fucked up and ate to much. It is an insult to people with real problems to compare fat people to those born with some life altering disfiguring disease. You can lose weight you CANT lose a disease...
 

Chronic

Well-Known Member
#12
Fantastic.

I always love people that treat the symptoms but not the disease. Where's the money going to come from? Taxes? Fuck that.

I won't ever oversimplify a fat person's struggle to lose weight but this is complete bullshit. Except the part about policing children's lunch boxes, that's a great idea. Parenting should be left up to the parents but with so many unfit parents around the state needs to interfene. It's borderline child abuse to let your child grow up to be fat. They don't have the mental maturity to see the social or health problems and then they're forced to face them when they hit puberty all because their parents did a louzy job.
 

Synful*Luv

Well-Known Member
Staff member
#13
I would like the government to pay me to eat healthy. Organic and Whole food is freakin expensive. I went grocery shopping at a Whole Foods store and didn't have enough food for over three nights worth of dinner and spend damn near $120! :mad:
 

Flipmo

VIP Member
Staff member
#15
Here's a tip.

Hey American Moms. Stop giving your children money to buy food at Mcdonalds and make the kid a healthy lunch you lazy twat.
 

Chronic

Well-Known Member
#17
I would like the government to pay me to eat healthy. Organic and Whole food is freakin expensive. I went grocery shopping at a Whole Foods store and didn't have enough food for over three nights worth of dinner and spend damn near $120! :mad:
You'll probably save more money in the end though, with the hospital bills you won't have to pay and all.
 

Synful*Luv

Well-Known Member
Staff member
#20
You'll probably save more money in the end though, with the hospital bills you won't have to pay and all.
Yup lets hope so. But there are so many scandals constantly with something that's supposed to be Organic actually isn't. I might be spending a lot of money on food that is still treated with chemicals hormones and in sewage sludge. :(
 

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