Everybody Draw Mohammed Day

Bobby Sands

Well-Known Member
#41
I dont care about religion at all, but this is just plain disrespectful.

Mohammed was not meant to be drawn. He is not supposed to have a face. 1 billion people believe in this.

You can draw Jesus all you want, it's not banned in Christian religions to do so... It is in Islam.

Being provocative just to be provocative is a waste of time...
i agree. but it seems to be ok for them to disrespect other religions as i stated in my earlier post. thats what pisses me off.

but yea, this little stunt from a bunch of fucking geeks on the internet is just provocation.
 

Jokerman

Well-Known Member
#42
Cooper is right. If a group of people are wrong about something that affects others, in this case making death threats for drawing Mohammed, then maybe they need it shoved in their faces until they get the fuck over it. If your personal superstitious beliefs get in the way of other people's well-being, they should be shoved up your collective ass.
 

Duke

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Staff member
#43
Cooper is right. If a group of people are wrong about something that affects others, in this case making death threats for drawing Mohammed, then maybe they need it shoved in their faces until they get the fuck over it. If your personal superstitious beliefs get in the way of other people's well-being, they should be shoved up your collective ass.

Exactly. Like cooper said, if "the muslim world" didn't display such an exxagerated reaction over a few cartoons, no one would insist on being able to draw Muhammad like we see now.

"What? You wanna kill me over a cartoon? Here's fifteen more toons, jerkwad".
 

ARon

Well-Known Member
#44
Exactly. If kids who get picked on wouldn't display such an exaggerated reaction over being bullied no one would insist on continually picking on them til they shoot up a school.

But because people get angry that toons get drawn people feel like they should draw more...childish. It's childish to get angry over them being drawn as well, but that is their religion and they choose to live and think like that. I disagree with both sides, so really if people just let it go it would go away, at least I would hope.
 

S O F I

Administrator
Staff member
#46
I'm not against anyone who is Muslim. I'm not against the various Muslim religious practices, faith and teachings. I'm not against anything except the idea that I can't do something because someone's feelings will be hurt.
Understandable. Again, to reiterate a point I keep making again and again, it is not about having the right to do it or not. I'm not saying you shouldn't be allowed. In reality, most things we say will somewhere, somehow, brush someone wrong and offend them. I understand that. All I am saying is, drawing caricatures of Muhammad is a poor exercise in freedom of speech, where the intentions are blurred between stating an opinion and provocation. But it doesn't even matter. If you CHOOSE and WANT to be provocative, that is your right. But I don't think it's particularly a good thing when it comes to cultural tolerance, immersion, and mutual understanding. If you feel that drawing Muhammad to exercise your freedom of speech is more important than, say in your case, retaining Muslim friends, then by all means go ahead. I will rather use my time and energy to call Rand Paul a fucking retard in every possible social setting. You go ahead and draw Muhammad.

People talk about Jesus, God, Buddha, Catholics, Priests, Scientologists, etc and their leaders ALL THE TIME and people complain, people are offended and that's that. Why are Muslims above everyone else??
I choose to believe that different things have different value and importance to different people. I don't see the need to think that a Christian should be equally offended by a caricature of Jesus as a Muslim by a caricature of Muhammad. It is in the same way that I don't think every person should accept a Yo Mama joke.

I have Muslim friends too, they know where i'm coming from and respect my stick figure drawings of Mohammed although they don't agree with them. Why? They are mature adults who respect that not everyone thinks the same as they do.
Well, if I were your Muslim friends, I would respect your right to draw Muhammad but would question your reasons for doing so. But hey, I have Black friends I used to call niggas all the time and they respected my right to say it too.

Also, what's the difference between everyone drawings pics of Mohammed today because it's "Draw Mohammed Day" and people who all go out and spend tons of money to buy presents because it's Christmas? If someone is all of a sudden offended by the connotations of Christ in Christmas should everyone stop celebrating? When someone designated a day as any holiday to celebrate anything.. do you participate? What's the difference? Someone, somewhere will ALWAYS be offended by something someone else is doing.
There are obvious differences and it's not that black and white. I've stated my point and we can agree to disagree.
 

Synful*Luv

Well-Known Member
Staff member
#47
^^^^ I get where you're coming from. And yup let's agree to disagree.

I won't write a response, not out of disrespect, but because you made your point very clear and we just see this differently. :)
 

S O F I

Administrator
Staff member
#48
You may have noticed that Molly Norris' comic is not in the paper this week. That's because there is no more Molly.

The gifted artist is alive and well, thankfully. But on the insistence of top security specialists at the FBI, she is, as they put it, "going ghost": moving, changing her name, and essentially wiping away her identity. She will no longer be publishing cartoons in our paper or in City Arts magazine, where she has been a regular contributor. She is, in effect, being put into a witness-protection program—except, as she notes, without the government picking up the tab. It's all because of the appalling fatwa issued against her this summer, following her infamous "Everybody Draw Mohammed Day" cartoon.

Norris views the situation with her customary sense of the world's complexity, and absurdity. When FBI agents, on a recent visit, instructed her to always keep watch for anyone following her, she responded, "Well, at least it'll keep me from being so self-involved!" It was, she says, the first time the agents managed a smile. She likens the situation to cancer—it might basically be nothing, it might be urgent and serious, it might go away and never return, or it might pop up again when she least expects it.

We're hoping the religious bigots go into full and immediate remission, and we wish her the best.

http://www.seattleweekly.com/2010-0...cartoonist-molly-norris-disappears-from-view/

Freedom of speech isn't so free after all. :D
 

Casey

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Staff member
#49
It is majorly fucked up that she has to go into hiding.

I mean, get the fuck over it. It's been like 5 months now since that whole thing.

I for one had completely forgotten about it. It's completely inconsequential.

I actually find it hard to believe that people are still pissed off about that.
 

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