does this mean new to us also

[Preach]

why?

listen, here's the deal. its stupid of us to run around pretending we are still the shit. this tupac forum sucks at the moment, there's nothing else to say. that doesn't mean we can't do something about it. at least now we're really having this conversation. maybe it's been going on for a very long time, i thought sigh's why dont you post thread had died out long ago. either way, i don't think it's depressing that we're not as good as we used to be. listen, you guys who have posted in this thread are all good posters. we can all turn this over. i'm gonna start posting more in this forum and create more threads over the coming few days or weeks.

due to things that have happened in the past week i have taken a personal interest in this section. i'll do my best and hope others will do the same.

 

[Word Is Bond]

see that was my point of "u guys suck" comment. i understand there is not much left to talk about.if thats the case fine but when i log on to the internet and my home page (which is news) has 2pac on it, its new and it news. so what do i do i bring it here and its seems people still dont care. i posted in the streets about remy ma being charged with attemped murder which is kinda big news for rap and not one person posted 2 this day. its not about me, i dont want fame from bringing topics. i want this site to light up to where i have to scamble in order to keep up. so if i post something here its strictly 2 further streethop cuz i'm damn near anonymous anyways. like the name says these words are our only bond.
ps- when i speak my mind dont talk shit-- its mine.

 

[Preach]

i feel you.

streethop is dysfunctional and always have been. we have a way of running new members off because we're mostly assholes. keep it up and after a while when people start to get used to your name, maybe things will change.

but yeah. there is stuff to talk about, people over here just think there isn't. there is much happening on the pac scene right now.

 

[masta247]

I think Streethop needs more 2pac related informers. Back in the days it was no1 source for 2pac news. Where did those news come from? Now news here are usually taken from mr.m or other 2pac related sites. Everything that end on SH is second hand info and it sucks.

 

[Preach]

I think Streethop needs more 2pac related informers. Back in the days it was no1 source for 2pac news. Where did those news come from? Now news here are usually taken from mr.m or other 2pac related sites. Everything that end on SH is second hand info and it sucks.

yup. for the tupac forum to get better freetupac needs to be fixed and be a source for exclusive news. you are right.

 

[Maverick]

amen to that. would be dope for freetupac to come back. and ive noticed mrmakaveli has blown up! holy shit! reminds me somewhat of what hitemup was like. that site hurts my eyes tho. but its where i go for news and info... i still post here more though, cuz its where ive always posted. i still think of this as a tupac forum somewhat, even though the life section is dead ha.

 

[S O F I]

Streethop is a community. Mr.Makaveli is a community of people that formed communion when they were members of hitemup, which is now streethop. It's Hitemup's bastard child.

 

[masta247]

yeah Hitemup was the Shit back in the days. I didn't register at Mr.Mak because I'm loyal to Streethop. I don't care what's going on on other forums. I still grab all my news from SH because it's actually fallen hitemup. Maybe let's make official hitemup reminiscing thread in life section

 

[S O F I]

I know you're being funny, but this is seriously the type of attitude we should try and avoid if we ever want to have respect from the community. mrmakaveli is a great site and anyone who says otherwise has no idea.

Man, I don't give a fuck. I come here for the community. Five years from now when they have formed some sort of real community, then and only then will I actually think something great about the site...wait i'm lying, i still won't give a fuck. Not on my radar.

I can't believe that people can still be so strung up on 2pac. I can understand when a teenage kid gets into him and is like "wow, 2pac is god", but If you were a fan for ten years, you should not still have that fire in you to LIVE and BREATHE 2pac (you know what i mean?). So, if that board is a bunch of 20+ year olds that still have 2pac on their mind every single day, then I feel sorry for them. If they wake up, and are like "Oh, I wonder what's new about 2pac today?" I can't respect that.

 

[masta247]

If they wake up, and are like "Oh, I wonder what's new about 2pac today?" I can't respect that.

That doesn't seem to be a good reason to not respect anybody, especially considering it's a hip-hop related board, mainly focused on 2pac (2pacboard).
If someone's 20+ and still has that "fire" thinking about Pac it's okay for me. There are still people who are Elvis or Beatles fans and I don't see any reason to not respect that. Especially when this is a hip-hop forum. Yeah it's also a community, that's another reason people should respect each other unless they respect others

 

[S O F I]

That doesn't seem to be a good reason to not respect anybody, especially considering it's a hip-hop related board, mainly focused on 2pac (2pacboard).
If someone's 20+ and still has that "fire" thinking about Pac it's okay for me. There are still people who are Elvis or Beatles fans and I don't see any reason to not respect that. Especially when this is a hip-hop forum. Yeah it's also a community, that's another reason people should respect each other unless they respect others

Listen, I don't know what is wrong with today's generation where they have this idea that every opinion should be respected. I don't know if it's this relativism nonsense that teachers spew in schools these days or if it's the liberals' fault. But, I don't believe in it. Maybe that's the inner conservative in me that's been dying to get out. But, I'm not labeling 2pac fans. I have a general problem with persons who obsess over other persons. If we can all agree on the notion that no person is better than the other, then I don't see why one person should have millions of blind followers. Don't even get me started on collectors.

 

[masta247]

yeah no person is better than the other. But if somebody has it's own role models or people he wants to follow it's ok I guess. I think people should respect everything other people does, untill it's not harming anybody else. Different people have different interests and that's ok for me. It's like I wouldn't respect somebody because he thinks differently than I do and manifest it or has his own obsessions that doesn't harm others - it would be a nonsense. What's wrong with that?

 

[Word Is Bond]

see i knew you guys had it in you.

 

[Sebastian]

That doesn't seem to be a good reason to not respect anybody, especially considering it's a hip-hop related board, mainly focused on 2pac (2pacboard).
If someone's 20+ and still has that "fire" thinking about Pac it's okay for me. There are still people who are Elvis or Beatles fans and I don't see any reason to not respect that. Especially when this is a hip-hop forum. Yeah it's also a community, that's another reason people should respect each other unless they respect others

Its ok to be a fan of someone, someones music and so on. Even if this person is already dead, it doesnt matter.

Sofi was talking about the point when people are crossing the imaginary line. Thats what he meant by "live" and "breathe". Threatening other people over rare tracks, calling someone from the other side of the world to mock them, hacking a website, etc...

Listen, I don't know what is wrong with today's generation where they have this idea that every opinion should be respected. I don't know if it's this relativism nonsense that teachers spew in schools these days or if it's the liberals' fault. But, I don't believe in it. Maybe that's the inner conservative in me that's been dying to get out. But, I'm not labeling 2pac fans. I have a general problem with persons who obsess over other persons. If we can all agree on the notion that no person is better than the other, then I don't see why one person should have millions of blind followers. Don't even get me started on collectors.

Again, i agree with you. I dont think i have to respect it, more like tolerate it or abide...

 

[masta247]

Sofi was talking about the point when people are crossing the imaginary line. Thats what he meant by "live" and "breathe". Threatening other people over rare tracks, calling someone from the other side of the world to mock them, hacking a website, etc...

Then I think I misunderstood if that's what he meant. I agree with that of course, harming others over stuff like that shouldn't be respected. But if somebody has obsession over somebody/something, speaking and thinking about it all the time, but in the way that doesn't harm others is ok for me.

 

[Preach]

I want to be a fan of Tupac's. I like his music, I am intrigued by the story of the man who went from being a kid on the street to a grown man supporting his entire family. I am intrigued by how all the pressure and commotion affected him. Tupac's life is like an alright movie. But mostly I listen to his music. A few times a week maybe. Btw you are making a deal out of this but it started when I said your anti-MrMak attitude is pointless, and wrong imo. They did nothing to you. They have done shit for the 2Pac scene though. Have you ever respected anything you didn't personally care for? If so, try and do so here. They have helped a lot of Tupac fans to joy. For free. A noble effort I say. Anyway, the discussion spawned when I said you shouldn't blindly diss them, and you start talking about people being strung on Pac. I'm not strung. I hate Kilo2, I want to buy Pac shit, but I am not crazy about him. I don't fall into any of the shit you've been saying about Pac fans so I'm good then?

And SOFI.. Your attitude about respecting opinions is the reason we have emo kids today. You're not supposed to respect everything, but that doesn't mean you're supposed to disrespect it either. At least try and understand it first. If a person has an opinion, a chain of events has lead him to form that opinion. How easy for you to say that he's a weirdo. Now like I said, you're not supposed to respect every opinion, but getting pissed and starting to challenge that opinion instead of understanding it and dealing with it is not the right way to go. Unless you want to spawn even more emotionally troubled kids and emos. Such people feel left behind and when they are told that they are faggots and their opinions suck and they don't deserve respect, they will paint their nails even blacker. I'm not saying you should respect me, this is just, VERY generally speaking. And I don't want you to say "yeah you're right", I just want you to think about it, because it's the case for half the western world's population.

I think the natural step for the world population is to come to terms with the emotional problems that children are experiencing in our generation and younger ones. Mental health statistics have shot through the roof, but I honestly don't believe people have it any worse than three generations ago. I think it's a matter of miscommunication between generations.

 

[masta247]

to Preach: at whom was first part of your post directed at?
I didn't say anything about mr.mak, it was the other guy. I just said in my opionion people should respect everything until it'll harm others. In my opinion disrespecting somebody over his own interests or harmless obsessions is wrong

 

[Preach]

It was directed towards S O F I

 

[S O F I]

I want to be a fan of Tupac's. I like his music, I am intrigued by the story of the man who went from being a kid on the street to a grown man supporting his entire family. I am intrigued by how all the pressure and commotion affected him. Tupac's life is like an alright movie. But mostly I listen to his music. A few times a week maybe. Btw you are making a deal out of this but it started when I said your anti-MrMak attitude is pointless, and wrong imo. They did nothing to you. They have done shit for the 2Pac scene though. Have you ever respected anything you didn't personally care for? If so, try and do so here. They have helped a lot of Tupac fans to joy. For free. A noble effort I say. Anyway, the discussion spawned when I said you shouldn't blindly diss them, and you start talking about people being strung on Pac. I'm not strung. I hate Kilo2, I want to buy Pac shit, but I am not crazy about him. I don't fall into any of the shit you've been saying about Pac fans so I'm good then?

And SOFI.. Your attitude about respecting opinions is the reason we have emo kids today. You're not supposed to respect everything, but that doesn't mean you're supposed to disrespect it either. At least try and understand it first. If a person has an opinion, a chain of events has lead him to form that opinion. How easy for you to say that he's a weirdo. Now like I said, you're not supposed to respect every opinion, but getting pissed and starting to challenge that opinion instead of understanding it and dealing with it is not the right way to go. Unless you want to spawn even more emotionally troubled kids and emos. Such people feel left behind and when they are told that they are faggots and their opinions suck and they don't deserve respect, they will paint their nails even blacker. I'm not saying you should respect me, this is just, VERY generally speaking. And I don't want you to say "yeah you're right", I just want you to think about it, because it's the case for half the western world's population.

I think the natural step for the world population is to come to terms with the emotional problems that children are experiencing in our generation and younger ones. Mental health statistics have shot through the roof, but I honestly don't believe people have it any worse than three generations ago. I think it's a matter of miscommunication between generations.

I'm not even going to answer this post on the basis that you're coming off thinking you're absolutely and universally right on the matter. (ie. I don't want you to say "yeah, you're right" and there's another example in the Our Block thread. Like I said previously, I said what I needed to say.

 

[Preach]

Nah I didn't mean it like that. A more correct way to phrase myself would be that all the while writing that post I NEVER expected you to ever say sorry, that you were wrong, that I'm right, or anything else. I didn't want your acknowledgment or your approval or anything. I asked you to try and understand my side of the story. All I asked of you is that you understand that I have a greater perspective on the situation due to being more involved in the Tupac scene, and due to taking a greater liking to Tupac's music and due to listening to it more frequently and altogether, as previously stated, due to being more involved than you. If you think I come off as cocky now I don't know what to tell you. You have stated yourself that you do not listen to Tupac that much and don't care for his unreleased music. It's fine that you have your opinion, but I don't really get what our argument is.

You hate obsessive Tupac fans as do I. You don't particularly like Dante. Fine. We can't all get along. You don't particularly respect bootlegging. Well you download music so you can't find it morally repulsive at least. You don't like Dante's price, but as I got it, you are in concurrence with the fact that you could just pass on it. You don't care. On the Kilo2 matter, I ask that you give me the benefit of the doubt instead of him. I would have no reason to blatantly lie about a new, random member coming here. Beyond that I don't disagree with you on anything I think. Edit: I re-read my previous post lol. Except the fact that you don't like MrMak. I asked you not to diss MrMak because it's bad publicity and because you have no reason to. You are free to go ahead but I don't think it's right is all.