2pac is overrated in common eyes..

[S. Fourteen]

Is it my opinion that he was not a super human, he was not the most skillful rapper and he was not a prophet?

YES!

 

[jaimie.uk fan]

Is it my opinion that he was not a super human, he was not the most skillful rapper and he was not a prophet?

YES!

FAIR ENOUGH :thumb:

 

[Ricardo_Brown]

i agree with pac wasend anything els than human like all of us, but i think pac touched alot of people with his lyrics and in my option that makes him the best rapper, every one knows that alof of people had better skills than pac, but he was the realest and that was all that he was trying to be...

 

[S. Fourteen]

I want to conclude this with one word

SOUL

 

[Think_ThuGLiFE]

Everyone who comes here is a Pac fan. It's just it's true, 2pac wasn't the best Lyricist, didn't have the best flow, was quite far down the lines in freestyle skills.

Pittsss , i got to tell you i listen 2 him because of his LYRICS and HIS FLOW. Thats one of the main reason i listen to him. Why do you like his music cuz hes a good guy..? The reason most of the world tlaks about him today is because he made great music. PLUS he was on of the only artist who was "real" and tryed to change shyt.

Persoanlly i like his flow and lyrics better then biggies , 50s , eminems , any1 thats on the radio .... WHo is a better lyricist and has a better flow ... Snoop... c mon man open ur eyes listen 2 a 2pac cd then come holla back.. 1

 

[CalcuoCuchicheo]

Whether, Think ThuGLiFE, you meant songwriter when you said lyricist I'm not sure. If you did mean songwriter, then my previous posts will tell you that I agree with you, otherwise;

Biggie, Eminem, Rakim, Big Daddy Kane, Kool G Rap, Jay-Z, Big L, Masta Ace, Royce Da 5'9, Big Pun, Andre 3000, AZ are some rappers who I think have better wordplay/rhyming ability than 2Pac.

 

[jaimie.uk fan]

Whether, Think ThuGLiFE, you meant songwriter when you said lyricist I'm not sure. If you did mean songwriter, then my previous posts will tell you that I agree with you, otherwise;

Biggie, Eminem, Rakim, Big Daddy Kane, Kool G Rap, Jay-Z, Big L, Masta Ace, Royce Da 5'9, Big Pun, Andre 3000, AZ are some rappers who I think have better wordplay/rhyming ability than 2Pac.

Andre 3000 ????

 

[CalcuoCuchicheo]

Andre 3000's wordplay & flow is crazy. (IMO)

 

[jaimie.uk fan]

Andre 3000's wordplay & flow is crazy. (IMO)

better than pacs though ??????

 

[CalcuoCuchicheo]

jaimie.uk fan, I don't know if you read the other posts I amde, but in my eyes Tupac had decent wordplay & his flow ranged from average to crazy depending on the song but like I said in my other posts, IMO, Tupac's songwriting ability is what set him apart along with his utilisation of previously almost unused skills in rap.

So to answer your question, while I see Tupac as the G.O.A.T, I think that Andre 3000, on the whole, has better wordplay & flow than Tupac.

 

[jaimie.uk fan]

jaimie.uk fan, I don't know if you read the other posts I amde, but in my eyes Tupac had decent wordplay & his flow ranged from average to crazy depending on the song but like I said in my other posts, IMO, Tupac's songwriting ability is what set him apart along with his utilisation of previously almost unused skills in rap.

So to answer your question, while I see Tupac as the G.O.A.T, I think that Andre 3000, on the whole, has better wordplay & flow than Tupac.

Again like i said to that saltynuts - your opinion -
in mine no way !!!! but its all bout opinions :thumb:

 

[Roaddogz]

the way i see it is... motherfuckas can have wordplay, flow an shit but if they ain real den all it will be is 'skills', as impressive as it is its jus like wotchin a movie wit no picture...

why was pac better, cos he could tell a story and he was a real person talkin an rhymin about real things... he put out real things in sacrfice of wordplay... u wan go rap bout real things and den try an go crazy on wordplay and lyrics an u start movin off topic...

pac the greatest in my opinion... he was the realest... an i dont mean the realest the biter

 

[CalcuoCuchicheo]

That's cool.

 

[hassan]

you know for me i dont listin to pac becouse he is over rated under rated old school new school, or what ever. i listin to pac cus i injoy his music period. people saing you got to move on, let him go. this is what i enjoy most of the new shit is craaap. im not gonna listin to some new shit just cus its popilur who fucking cares whats populer. if i dont enjoy the song i wont listin to it. and if you dont enjoy listining to pac then its just not for you. go listin to some breatny spears or some shit if thats what you like. it has nothing to do with moving on or holding on.

 

[Hurts]

PPl try to come off smart in this thread but they forget that...when i say move the fuck on..i dont mean go listen to chingy...man muhfucka i take for instance...talib kweli ova everybody in the mainstream world...ya know...he spits enough shit to enjoy me..just as much as pac did...If ur not trying to understand what im trying to say..then how are we ever goin to agree? never we will forever disagree..and i can understand u still wanna listen to pac and thats cool..i understand all that...but when u say pac is the only good shit compared to what comes out these days..ur just dissin all the artists who make real good talented music...just because some pop icon is on ur tv 24/7 doesnt mean everything that comes out today is wack...

 

[rockaway]

i know my friends be telling me to move on and let 2pac go and shit but yeah then we have all these mothafuckas spittin biggie lyrics and they say, "Biggie is that nigga gettin all the bitches" man i just wish to say that 2pac begged bitches to fuck him just like he started biggie's career

 

[S. Fourteen]

PPl try to come off smart in this thread but they forget that...when i say move the fuck on..i dont mean go listen to chingy...man muhfucka i take for instance...talib kweli ova everybody in the mainstream world...ya know...he spits enough shit to enjoy me..just as much as pac did...If ur not trying to understand what im trying to say..then how are we ever goin to agree? never we will forever disagree..and i can understand u still wanna listen to pac and thats cool..i understand all that...but when u say pac is the only good shit compared to what comes out these days..ur just dissin all the artists who make real good talented music...just because some pop icon is on ur tv 24/7 doesnt mean everything that comes out today is wack...

see Hurts is not retarded, people should read this and agree with it.

 

[imported_MAKaveli_10]

yo man pac will never be over rated. Some of my friends and i were having a conversation on people who changed the world. Man 2pac is up there with Ghandi and probably more known world wide than malcolm x or martin luther king. I listen to 2pac everyday of the year.

 

[kingdizzy]

i dont know why everyone is hatin on hurts, the man states a very good point...quit being so damn closed minded...doesnt mean you gotta listen to 50 cent...damn

 

[ThaHeartless]

PPl try to come off smart in this thread but they forget that...when i say move the fuck on..i dont mean go listen to chingy...man muhfucka i take for instance...talib kweli ova everybody in the mainstream world...ya know...he spits enough shit to enjoy me..just as much as pac did...If ur not trying to understand what im trying to say..then how are we ever goin to agree? never we will forever disagree..and i can understand u still wanna listen to pac and thats cool..i understand all that...but when u say pac is the only good shit compared to what comes out these days..ur just dissin all the artists who make real good talented music...just because some pop icon is on ur tv 24/7 doesnt mean everything that comes out today is wack...

of course hurts isn't retarded, this is a good point with whch I agree. Now go read his post about people being lame, I feel he didn't make these points in that one. That's all, end of.