2Pac and the Grammy's

[Cheesyphily16]

I think it's not only a shame that 2Pac's never been awarded a grammy but i also find it a damn injustice. Sift through the undeserving assclowns who were awarded in hip-hop related categories and you will find that those who won are insignificant figures with even more insignificant songs. http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/Music/02/09/grammys.list/index.html Their tracks appeal to 14 year old girls who constantly call into local radio stations requesting for them. You know things are fucked when the black eyed peas win best rap performance by a duo or group.

Sure nothing from LTTG was really worthy of an award however, i think if Amaru just got their shit together, a nomination (at the very least) remains a possibility for next year. It should be safe to assume that atleast one song from the upcoming album should contain lyrics with profound meaning. If Amaru can get some producers to match the qualities of such songs, 2Pac should be a shoe in to win. Kanye is by no stretch of the imagination anywhere close to 2Pac. This dude summed it up best:

Some may disagree with this statement, but in my opinion, the best 3 rappers of all time are 2Pac, Nas and Biggie. Their combined Grammy wins: Zero. Will Smith has 4, Nelly has 3, Eminem has 9, Jay-Z has 4, and P. Diddy has 2. MTV favorites reign supreme.

If only Amaru saved a track like Changes to slap these mofos upside the head. Hopefully 2006 brings an album that will garner much acclaim. Sorry for such a long post, i just had to get this off my chest.

 

[bigmack]

Not surprised

 

[KAMIKAZI]

They totally fail at everything. They didn't promote Loyal To The Game at all. Local underground rappers who have flyers stapled to telephone poles promote themselves more then Amaru did for LTTG.

 

[SiGh]

Grammy's = Popular artists and Popular songs and etc.

Pac, BIG the only air play they really get is their old songs and etc. They aint never gonna win a grammy. Thats the harsh truth.

What did Will Smith win them for? Will Smith is an ill rapper. Alot of people get his shit mixed up and think he's not a good rapper. He was the shit in the 80s and 90s.

 

[RidinOutDaStorm]

What did Will Smith win them for? Will Smith is an ill rapper. Alot of people get his shit mixed up and think he's not a good rapper. He was the shit in the 80s and 90s.

Will Smth definetly changed hip-hop a lot, compared to what some artists have done. He definetly added to the culture of "mainstream 90's hip-hop". I remember buying Big Willie Style and playin that shit on repeat for months. :laugh: Will Smith got so much radio play, and still does. I just heard "Summertime" on my local pop station this morning.

 

[KAMIKAZI]

Pac, BIG the only air play they really get is their old songs and etc. They aint never gonna win a grammy. Thats the harsh truth.

It's possible if there material was managed properly.

 

[SiGh]

It's possible if there material was managed properly.

I really dowt that will ever happen. Puffy promotes BIGz shit like crazy but he doesnt get it. And BIGz and ill lyricist. The grammyz have changed alot, maybe if they promoted his shit a couple years ago like around 00 or sumthing. Maybe back then, but not anymore. Unless some special comes up and everything and as long as all these new artists are banging out hits, i truly dowt they'll ever win.

But we can def. hope.

 

[Nick]

This dude summed it up best:

Some may disagree with this statement, but in my opinion, the best 3 rappers of all time are 2Pac, Nas and Biggie. Their combined Grammy wins: Zero. Will Smith has 4, Nelly has 3, Eminem has 9, Jay-Z has 4, and P. Diddy has 2. MTV favorites reign supreme.

I agree with this, and this is exactly why Pac wont win a Grammy not matter how well his material is handled, he's not as commercial as those guys.

 

[DutchPac2]

Why did Kanye win with Jesus Walks and not with Golddigger?
The jury is 2 much high class 4 a record like golddigger.
Same 4 Pac, Big and the others.
It's gotta be commercial with a meanin (though they prefer conscience) That's why U2 wins. I got nothin against u2, but it aint fair. And Bono's "save-the-world-act" surely helps here.

I think Pac got the wrong reputation to win a Grammy. He was called a hater in that MTV-list. Though that's not true, they might think it's true. They see him as a criminal "i want g's so they label me a criminal". And they ain't gonna give a criminal a grammy.

This year (or last year), he could have had a chance though. If Ghetto Gospel would've been handled the right way, didn't turnout as a mixtape track, it had potential. It's got a "message/ conscience" and it could have been commercial. Like said before Eminem won 9 grammies, so he seems to have the touch. To bad he didn't take time to handlle right.

Yesterday I was thinking. I would be a beautifull "end" if Pac would get a grammy 4 his last album. Though I doubt he'll get it, but it should be great if he would be reconized as one of the greatest artist as a musician as well as a person of this generation.

 

[2PacThug4Life]

Pac might get a Grammy if Amaru promotes tha album really well, but I think they'll have to have some really mainsteam beats to win .

 

[Diaz]

Well to tell you the truth, I'm glad they didn't promote it anymore than they did. It was so bad it might as well be forgotten. Not to mention the one video they made for it didn't have so much as one picture of Pac in it. If you had your TV on mute and saw that on, you'd never guess it was a Pac video in a million years.

Yea, the credits at the beginning and end that say "2Pac - Ghetto Gospel" wouldn't give it away.

 

[DeeezNuuuts83]

Pac could never win a Grammy. He's just not that type of artist. It's true that he reached people of all races and backgrounds across the world, but the people who oversee the Grammys are essentially higher-class, traditional white folks. The only rap songs they acknowledge are the ones made with their demographic in mind... your Kanye Wests, your Black Eyed Peas (with their stupid politically corrected "Let's Get It Started"). As sophisticated and intelligent as Pac was, it's no secret that he was so into keeping it real that he was just too street-oriented to ever win a Grammy. Just look at what they did to Eminem a few years back. The Marshall Mathers LP was up for album of the year, and it really was an amazing album that blurred the line between reality and imagination while pushing the envelope when it came to lyrics, yet he lost to Steely Dan, a couple of middle-aged white guys whose group was named after a vibrator from the late '70s (true fact)... which to the Grammy committee is okay, but saying "fag" and "fuck" and a few other cusswords is apparently inappropriate.

 

[Hituup]

Man I don't agree with you guys. I don't even know what you all are talking about. Wasn't 2Pac nominated for a grammy in 1996 for Dear Mama and wasn't MATW up for album of the year? I'm not too sure, but I know he was nominated and had grammy potential. Pac is definitely grammy potential. He was a big artists, almost or like 50Cent and had controversy like Kanye, and conciousness/good music like Kanye. All 3 of those artists were nominated and Pac was like each or had something like those artists I named.

It's just that the people handling 2pac's music are limiting. Someone needs to smack Afeni and or people running that label. "Who Do You Believe In", "Ghetto Gospel" if remixed well like King Dizzy's version, and "Po Nigga Blues" from LTTG could have got something or at least a nomination. Hopefully, the grammy's will look at some of pac's songs on his last lp and nominate one for a grammy if Amaru themselves can't come up with a single that'll make an impact.

I do know that almost every year since 95 & 96, pac has been nominated for an MTV award and never has won it. I think that one year at the Grammy's and or the MTV awards that 2Pac may be honored with some type of music achievement-decade award or most influential achievement award down the line. Trust me an icon with such status and influence will be honored in some years to come.

 

[DeeezNuuuts83]

I do know that almost every year since 95 & 96, pac has been nominated for an MTV award and never has won it.

If that bothers you, just watch that interview he did with MTV after the 1996 VMAs, where the interviewer goes, "You just lost the best rap video award, how do you feel?" then Pac goes, "I didn't lose, I just sold six-and-a-half million records, so I won." The man's got a point.

I think that one year at the Grammy's and or the MTV awards that 2Pac may be honored with some type of music achievement-decade award or most influential achievement award down the line. Trust me an icon with such status and influence will be honored in some years to come.

The MTV awards thing is a possibility, but the Grammys thing isn't. I doubt they care about a dead rapper. Just remember that awards aren't everything. Pac may not have won many awards, but MTV poured their heart and soul into making Tupac Resurrection, which everyone agrees was just an awesome film, plus it got a few nominations for best documentary. I think that's a pretty big honor in itself. I doubt we'll see any movies like that about Dre, Biggie, KRS-One, or any other rapper.

 

[PELLA]

grammys these days is like "who made the most money" last year!