The Donald
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What's there to discuss? It's a temporary situation. I don't think he'll manage to do much damage over his 4 years and abroad he's seen as "well, you owe us one for making us deal with this dude for 4 years". He's mostly active on twitter from what I've heard. I hope more good will come out of it and there will be actually a good candidate again for you guys to vote for, as listing Hilary was kind of like pretending too hard to be retarded at special Olympics, "because we'll win anyway".
I'm surprised you guys didn't vote for the Jill Stein chick. She would make the smartest president. I watched a couple of interviews as her ideas seemed really interesting, making the country into a green powerhouse while keeping Obama-style left-ish policies and pulling out of the good old American warmongering. Has to happen sooner or later, and for your economy and wellbeing it's better to be ahead of the game, especially while you still have the resources to do so. I understand that it's hard to appeal to the masses who see things through their current everyday reality, briefly watch the news, think politics is a sports game between two teams of everyday administrators and who unfortunately also have to vote for you.
Otherwise if it's about my personal thoughts, being European, America became a super unappealing country to be in. I can't imagine living in a country where you have to pay someone to save your life, or to get educated (the whole purpose of which is actually giving back your skilled time to the society for the rest of your life). You can't just apply capitalism to everything unless living in Mad Max seems appealing to you. It's a temporary economic system that was meant to work during the last few golden centuries heavily prioritizing industrial growth, America benefited from it, largely because there was the most to expand and skilled people were lured there back in the golden years, but there are more and more areas that we should be prioritizing that do not fit in its limited scope.
Trump is the materialization of the limiting thinking that our whole world can be described through the current economic system and being best at it means we are the most successful, imposing the even more limited thinking of "us vs. them", when the concept of borders should be less and less relevant and we should be entering the era of unified humanity, solving human problems.
Living on different continents, it's funny to observe how much gets lost in the cultural translation, and how heavily the cultures bias and limit the ability of people to solve the problems they are facing (or will be facing soon). It suddenly makes people limited in a self-imposed bubble that makes logical solutions to problems we have all means to solve not viable for some reasons.
It makes you think that you just crossed an artificial border on our neat little planet and nothing changed except everyone suddenly suffers from a different kind of crazy, suffering from issues that were non-existent just hours ago when you were somewhere else, and suddenly people are dying because of something stupid, or wasting their lives to pursue and make money off something that serves no purpose in the long run, or even takes us back.
An extreme Muslim kills a doctor for smoking a cigarette during Ramadan. America uses its golden era that enables them to lead a progression into sustainability (or space colonization or you name it) to obtain more oil (that we should be conserving) and bomb some poor souls to cause some turmoil instead, or charge people for education and healthcare to make it harder for them to do something better than that. People vote for someone they don't agree with to lead them in the future believing the only choice is the second person that they don't agree with more. They see the neighbor who really deep inside has exactly the same needs, hopes and wishes, but maybe different problems as his arch enemy based on things completely irrelevant to reality.
All of those are stupid and counterproductive, yet they make sense to so many people who accept that as their reality. Just think how stupid it will look in the history books, if we persevere.
It's about time we open up to rationale, instead of building artificial walls. My biggest issue with Trump is that his thinking not only doesn't go that far, but takes us back away from that direction. That threatens human progress, which is a shame considering that America built up the resources and temporary following strong enough that a single person leading their country would be otherwise perfectly capable of leading the world forward to better humanity with higher odds of survival as a species, choosing for its golden age to implode instead.
I'm surprised you guys didn't vote for the Jill Stein chick. She would make the smartest president. I watched a couple of interviews as her ideas seemed really interesting, making the country into a green powerhouse while keeping Obama-style left-ish policies and pulling out of the good old American warmongering. Has to happen sooner or later, and for your economy and wellbeing it's better to be ahead of the game, especially while you still have the resources to do so. I understand that it's hard to appeal to the masses who see things through their current everyday reality, briefly watch the news, think politics is a sports game between two teams of everyday administrators and who unfortunately also have to vote for you.
Otherwise if it's about my personal thoughts, being European, America became a super unappealing country to be in. I can't imagine living in a country where you have to pay someone to save your life, or to get educated (the whole purpose of which is actually giving back your skilled time to the society for the rest of your life). You can't just apply capitalism to everything unless living in Mad Max seems appealing to you. It's a temporary economic system that was meant to work during the last few golden centuries heavily prioritizing industrial growth, America benefited from it, largely because there was the most to expand and skilled people were lured there back in the golden years, but there are more and more areas that we should be prioritizing that do not fit in its limited scope.
Trump is the materialization of the limiting thinking that our whole world can be described through the current economic system and being best at it means we are the most successful, imposing the even more limited thinking of "us vs. them", when the concept of borders should be less and less relevant and we should be entering the era of unified humanity, solving human problems.
Living on different continents, it's funny to observe how much gets lost in the cultural translation, and how heavily the cultures bias and limit the ability of people to solve the problems they are facing (or will be facing soon). It suddenly makes people limited in a self-imposed bubble that makes logical solutions to problems we have all means to solve not viable for some reasons.
It makes you think that you just crossed an artificial border on our neat little planet and nothing changed except everyone suddenly suffers from a different kind of crazy, suffering from issues that were non-existent just hours ago when you were somewhere else, and suddenly people are dying because of something stupid, or wasting their lives to pursue and make money off something that serves no purpose in the long run, or even takes us back.
An extreme Muslim kills a doctor for smoking a cigarette during Ramadan. America uses its golden era that enables them to lead a progression into sustainability (or space colonization or you name it) to obtain more oil (that we should be conserving) and bomb some poor souls to cause some turmoil instead, or charge people for education and healthcare to make it harder for them to do something better than that. People vote for someone they don't agree with to lead them in the future believing the only choice is the second person that they don't agree with more. They see the neighbor who really deep inside has exactly the same needs, hopes and wishes, but maybe different problems as his arch enemy based on things completely irrelevant to reality.
All of those are stupid and counterproductive, yet they make sense to so many people who accept that as their reality. Just think how stupid it will look in the history books, if we persevere.
It's about time we open up to rationale, instead of building artificial walls. My biggest issue with Trump is that his thinking not only doesn't go that far, but takes us back away from that direction. That threatens human progress, which is a shame considering that America built up the resources and temporary following strong enough that a single person leading their country would be otherwise perfectly capable of leading the world forward to better humanity with higher odds of survival as a species, choosing for its golden age to implode instead.
It is pretty interesting situation (the political climate) over in the States. I have always thought it could possibly be a good opportunity to fix a lot of the systemic issues within government would be for a political outsider to rise to power. On the other hand Trump is certainly not the ideal candidate. It is hard to get a good idea of what it is really like in the States over here in Australia. It is a topic that is bought up a lot at University and causes some pretty heated debates considering the majority on University students over here (and i am assuming most other places in the world) lean fairly heavily towards the left.
I do believe the rise of Trump is down to a few key factors. Firstly, to me it is clear that Hillary wasn't the right candidate for the democrats. I think people are looking for change and Hillary would almost certainly maintain the status quo in Washington. Obama was meant to bring "change" to the country. I don't believe he made enough large scale changes to live up to the narrative his campaign put forward. Secondly, i feel that certain segments of the left over the last 5 to 10 years has alienated a lot of people who most likely would have voted democrat instead of Trump. Once again I'm unsure of the social politics over in the US, but over here people on the further side of the left have a habit of writing you off as a racist, misogynist, anti immigration, Islamophobe if your political and social views do not fall exactly in to line with their views. Saying Hillary was a poor candidate doesn't make you a misogynist. Not wanting to bring in immigrant workers on 457 visas doesn't make you a racist. Just in case you guys don't have 457 visas in other parts of the world here is Wikipedia's definition
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In theory they were a good idea, if we were short on some skilled workers in certain area's than of course bring them in. However, when your bringing in workers such as electricians, boiler makers and even fry cooks at McDonald's, which their are plenty of those kinds of workers currently out of work and looking for jobs in Australia, just because you are able to pay them less it isn't right and that is clearly not what the 457 visas were initially intended for. So i feel like that played a part in Trumps win.
Thirdly i feel the media played a very large part in Trumps win, although i am guessing that was the opposite of their intentions. With the major news networks aside from FOX news being overwhelmingly negative towards Trump and mostly positive towards Hillary it created a situation where the Trump team could construct a narrative that the major news organizations had a clear bias in favor of Hillary. This lead them to be able to do two things. Firstly the Trump team were able to cast doubt on every negative story that came out on Trump, all they had to say was "what do you expect from the Mainstream Media, they are all in Hillary's pocket. Secondly all it did was turn mild Trump supporters to hardcore devotees. When you feel like the system is legitimately trying to undercut and undermine your "team" for lack of a better word all it is going to do is harden them even further.
Finally i believe Trump ran the better campaign over all for what he wanted to achieve. He wanted to be seen as the peoples advocate in Washington and by being so active and forthright on social media he was able to put that across. Also some of the little things he did on the campaign, all the way from the lead up to primary's till the election itself were super effective. Just small things like "Low Energy Jeb", "Little Marco" and "Crooked Hillary". Little things like that are super effective, it sticks in peoples minds.
I do believe the rise of Trump is down to a few key factors. Firstly, to me it is clear that Hillary wasn't the right candidate for the democrats. I think people are looking for change and Hillary would almost certainly maintain the status quo in Washington. Obama was meant to bring "change" to the country. I don't believe he made enough large scale changes to live up to the narrative his campaign put forward. Secondly, i feel that certain segments of the left over the last 5 to 10 years has alienated a lot of people who most likely would have voted democrat instead of Trump. Once again I'm unsure of the social politics over in the US, but over here people on the further side of the left have a habit of writing you off as a racist, misogynist, anti immigration, Islamophobe if your political and social views do not fall exactly in to line with their views. Saying Hillary was a poor candidate doesn't make you a misogynist. Not wanting to bring in immigrant workers on 457 visas doesn't make you a racist. Just in case you guys don't have 457 visas in other parts of the world here is Wikipedia's definition
.
In theory they were a good idea, if we were short on some skilled workers in certain area's than of course bring them in. However, when your bringing in workers such as electricians, boiler makers and even fry cooks at McDonald's, which their are plenty of those kinds of workers currently out of work and looking for jobs in Australia, just because you are able to pay them less it isn't right and that is clearly not what the 457 visas were initially intended for. So i feel like that played a part in Trumps win.
Thirdly i feel the media played a very large part in Trumps win, although i am guessing that was the opposite of their intentions. With the major news networks aside from FOX news being overwhelmingly negative towards Trump and mostly positive towards Hillary it created a situation where the Trump team could construct a narrative that the major news organizations had a clear bias in favor of Hillary. This lead them to be able to do two things. Firstly the Trump team were able to cast doubt on every negative story that came out on Trump, all they had to say was "what do you expect from the Mainstream Media, they are all in Hillary's pocket. Secondly all it did was turn mild Trump supporters to hardcore devotees. When you feel like the system is legitimately trying to undercut and undermine your "team" for lack of a better word all it is going to do is harden them even further.
Finally i believe Trump ran the better campaign over all for what he wanted to achieve. He wanted to be seen as the peoples advocate in Washington and by being so active and forthright on social media he was able to put that across. Also some of the little things he did on the campaign, all the way from the lead up to primary's till the election itself were super effective. Just small things like "Low Energy Jeb", "Little Marco" and "Crooked Hillary". Little things like that are super effective, it sticks in peoples minds.
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