Wal-Mart is utterly and completely evil.

#1
Debbie Shank breaks down in tears every time she's told that her 18-year-old son, Jeremy, was killed in Iraq.

The 52-year-old mother of three attended her son's funeral, but she continues to ask how he's doing. When her family reminds her that he's dead, she weeps as if hearing the news for the first time.

Shank suffered severe brain damage after a traffic accident nearly eight years ago that robbed her of much of her short-term memory and left her in a wheelchair and living in a nursing home.

It was the beginning of a series of battles -- both personal and legal -- that loomed for Shank and her family. One of their biggest was with Wal-Mart's health plan.

Eight years ago, Shank was stocking shelves for the retail giant and signed up for Wal-Mart's health and benefits plan.

Two years after the accident, Shank and her husband, Jim, were awarded about $1 million in a lawsuit against the trucking company involved in the crash. After legal fees were paid, $417,000 was placed in a trust to pay for Debbie Shank's long-term care.

Wal-Mart had paid out about $470,000 for Shank's medical expenses and later sued for the same amount. However, the court ruled it can only recoup what is left in the family's trust.

The Shanks didn't notice in the fine print of Wal-Mart's health plan policy that the company has the right to recoup medical expenses if an employee collects damages in a lawsuit.

The family's attorney, Maurice Graham, said he informed Wal-Mart about the settlement and believed the Shanks would be allowed to keep the money.

"We assumed after three years, they [Wal-Mart] had made a decision to let Debbie Shank use this money for what it was intended to," Graham said.

The Shanks lost their suit to Wal-Mart. Last summer, the couple appealed the ruling -- but also lost it. One week later, their son was killed in Iraq.

"They are quite within their rights. But I just wonder if they need it that bad," Jim Shank said.

In 2007, the retail giant reported net sales in the third quarter of $90 billion.

Legal or not, CNN asked Wal-Mart why the company pursued the money.

Wal-Mart spokesman John Simley, who called Debbie Shank's case "unbelievably sad," replied in a statement: "Wal-Mart's plan is bound by very specific rules. ... We wish it could be more flexible in Mrs. Shank's case since her circumstances are clearly extraordinary, but this is done out of fairness to all associates who contribute to, and benefit from, the plan."

Jim Shank said he believes Wal-Mart should make an exception.

"My idea of a win-win is -- you keep the paperwork that says you won and let us keep the money so I can take care of my wife," he said.

The family's situation is so dire that last year Jim Shank divorced Debbie, so she could receive more money from Medicaid.

Jim Shank, 54, is recovering from prostate cancer, works two jobs and struggles to pay the bills. He's afraid he won't be able to send their youngest son to college and pay for his and Debbie's care.

"Who needs the money more? A disabled lady in a wheelchair with no future, whatsoever, or does Wal-Mart need $90 billion, plus $200,000?" he asked.

The family's attorney agrees.

"The recovery that Debbie Shank made was recovery for future lost earnings, for her pain and suffering," Graham said.

"She'll never be able to work again. Never have a relationship with her husband or children again. The damage she recovered was for much more than just medical expenses."

Graham said he believes Wal-Mart should be entitled to only about $100,000. Right now, about $277,000 remains in the trust -- far short of the $470,000 Wal-Mart wants back.

Refusing to give up the fight, the Shanks appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court. But just last week, the high court said it would not hear the case.

Graham said the Shanks have exhausted all their resources and there's nothing more they can do but go on with their lives.

Jim Shank said he's disappointed with the Supreme Court's decision not to hear the case -- not for the sake of his family -- but for those who might face similar circumstances.

For now, he said the family will figure out a way to get by and "do the best we can for Debbie."

"Luckily, she's oblivious to everything," he said. "We don't tell her what's going on because it will just upset her."

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/03/25/walmart.insurance.battle/index.html

Fucking bastards. I agree with the husband 100%.
 

Farzin

Well-Known Member
#2
Yea but this would open walmart to more lawsuits.

Lets be fair. It was written in their policy and why should they pay up if they already got money from the trucking company?

As cruel as it sounds it should be a lesson to all the kids out there. Read the fine prints.
 

Snowman

Well-Known Member
#3
:fury:

fuckin dicklickers. hope all the fat cats than run walmart get killed in a plane crash.

i was about to go shopping there tommorrow, but after reading that im heading to best buy to get what i need.
 

ARon

Well-Known Member
#4
Yeah it's a fucked up situation but Wal-Mart is keeping things fair.

Also, if I am reading this right...

"Wal-Mart had paid out about $470,000 for Shank's medical expenses and later sued for the same amount. However, the court ruled it can only recoup what is left in the family's trust.

The Shanks didn't notice in the fine print of Wal-Mart's health plan policy that the company has the right to recoup medical expenses if an employee collects damages in a lawsuit."

Wal-Mart paid out $470,000 and wants their money back right? The family was awarded $1 million and Wal-Mart has the right to recoup their losses of $470,000. The family spent more than that and the court system allowed Wal-Mart to take only what they have left in their trust fund. So what is the problem again? $530,000 should be more than enough to suffice.

"After legal fees were paid, $417,000 was placed in a trust to pay for Debbie Shank's long-term care."

You're telling me legal fees cost them $583,000. Come on, this is just bad money management.

You have to feel sorry for the family, a dead Son and a disabled Mother but Wal-Mart would be doing them a favor to let them keep the money. I don't see how I can be mad at Wal-Mart for doing what they are doing. If they do let the family keep the money that would be real tight though.
 

ArtsyGirl

Well-Known Member
#5
Its unfortunate that was in the policy, but because it was they have legal rights to that money. If they made an exception for them alot of other people with difficult stories would be expecting the same.
As snowman said vote with your feet in this one.
 

Euphanasia

Well-Known Member
#6
Wal Mart made the correct legal decision but a terrible moral one. They should have found a way to make an exception without inviting more lawsuits. Anyhow, I suspect that they will somehow find a way to do this because all of this bad publicity is killing them. They made Keith Olberman's worst people in the world list last night and he said they will continue to put Wal Mart on there every night until they concede.
 

S O F I

Administrator
Staff member
#7
Bad publicity isn't killing Wal-Mart nor boycotts by the wealthy consumers. On a plane ride from Mexico to LA, I sat next to a woman who kept preaching about how Wal-Mart is bad and she doesn't shop there. and how Noam Chomsky's books are the shit. BITCH, YOUR HUSBAND'S A DOCTOR IN BEVERLY HILLS. FUCK YOU.

A young Mexican mother of 6 on welfare gives a fuck about Wal-Mart's business practices; she needs affordable diapers for the kids.
 

Chronic

Well-Known Member
#10
"It's legal" isn't really an excuse and shouldn't even be discussed. Unless you're one of those people that think "legal = good, illegal = bad" but then you should kill yourself and you wouldn't be posting here.
 

_carmi

me, myself & us
#11
Yeah it's extremely wrong, that is morally wrong, for Wal Mart to take back the money, but if they let it to the Shanks, other employers who have difficult situations will say sue Wal Mart to prevent them from taking their money and bring the Shanks situation in there. What is good for one is good for the others if they all have the same plan no? Wal Mart is protecting itself.

Obviously it's horrible, but that is what it is.
 

PuffnScruff

Well-Known Member
#12
one of my co-workers used to be a manager at wal mart, so i get to hear all types of crappy stories of how they run the show and the way they treat their employees. she left her job there, which paid more, to work with us because of their crappy health insurance and she knocked up.

although, i will say my wal mart is one of the only wal marts were you can walk into the automotive department and see johnny depp standing there. apparently his aunt died not too long ago and he was in the area for her funeral. why he decided to go to wal mart is anyones guess.
 
#16
Wal-Mart is America baby....in all its twisted glory.


I always fell bad for the old folks that they just have waiting to give you a basket, you know they aint getting paid the money they should. Same goes for the handicapped as well.
 
#18
The family's situation is so dire that last year Jim Shank divorced Debbie, so she could receive more money from Medicaid.
Lately, I've heard about alot of off-the-wall shit. But that right there, that's just really fucked up. He had to divorce the love of his life just to bring more money into the house, and she doesn't even know.

But what's even worse is that even though Wal-Mart chose a really bad position regarding which side to play in this lawsuit, legally, they're actually right.

You wake up in the morning and look out the window to see the sun shining bright and the birds chirping and you think to yourself, "Today is gonna be a great day." Then you hear shit like this and it snaps you back to reality. The world is a fucked up place.
 

_carmi

me, myself & us
#19
Wal-Mart drops $400,000 reimbursement claim against injured former worker
ASSOCIATED PRESS
04/01/2008


BENTONVILLE, Ark. (AP) -- Wal-Mart Stores Inc. is dropping a controversial effort to collect over $400,000 in health care reimbursement from a former employee who suffered brain damage in a traffic accident.

The world's largest retailer said in a letter to the family of Deborah Shank of Cape Girardeau County in Missouri that it will not seek to collect money the Shanks won in an injury lawsuit against a trucking company for the accident.

Wal-Mart's top executive for human resources, Pat Curran, wrote that Shank's extraordinary situation had made the company re-examine the situation.

Deborah's husband Jim Shank welcomed the news. Family lawyer Maurice Graham of St. Louis said Wal-Mart deserves credit for doing the right thing.

"It's a good day for the Shank family," Jim Shank said in a statement.

Wal-Mart has been roundly criticized in newspaper editorials, on cable news shows and by union foes for its claim to the funds, which it made in a lawsuit upheld by a federal appeals court.


Insurance experts say it is increasingly common for health plans to seek reimbursement for the medical expenses they paid for someone's treatment if the person also collects damages in an injury suit.

The practice, called "subrogation," has increased since a 2006 Supreme Court ruling that eased it.

Wal-Mart's Curran said the retailer was required by the rules of its plan to seek reimbursement from the Shank's settlement. But she said the case has made Wal-Mart revise those rules to allow for flexibility in individual cases.

"Occasionally others help us step back and look at a situation in a different way. This is one of those times," Curran wrote in the letter.

Last month, the U.S. Supreme Court refused to hear the Shanks' appeal of a legal judgment that said they had to pay Wal-Mart. The appeal was the last legal recourse for the family of the 52-year-old Shank, a mother of three who was critically injured in a car accident eight years ago. She suffered a brain injury that took her memory and left her with very little ability to move or communicate. She has lived in a nursing home since she was released from the hospital.

"It's been kind of hard on us," Nathan Shank, Debbie Shank's 17-year-old son, said at the time of the Supreme Court's decision.

Nathan Shank said that with her case in limbo, his mother already had lost a private caregiver and might be moved out of her private room in the nursing home.

According to legal documents, Shank's medical bills - totaling $469,216 - were covered by a health insurance program at Wal-Mart, where Shank worked nights stocking shelves.

Her family later settled a lawsuit with the trucking company whose driver was involved in the accident. After attorneys' fees and expenses, $417,477 was put in a trust for Shank's care. That settlement money, plus $51,739 that Shank will have to pay out of pocket, must be paid to Wal-Mart.

As is common for employer-sponsored health plans, Shank's insurance required full repayment of medical expenses if she received money from a lawsuit.

Daphne Moore, a Wal-Mart spokeswoman, said last month that the company sued "out of fairness to everyone who contributes" to the plan.

"This is a tragic situation," Moore said. "The reality is that the health plan is required to protect its assets so that it can pay future claims for other associates and their family members."
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/ne...377F60E4BC14440B8625741E0076A851?OpenDocument

found on perezhilton
 
#20
_carmi said:
Wal-Mart's top executive for human resources, Pat Curran, wrote that Shank's extraordinary situation had made the company re-examine the situation.
lol you know that is major bullshit. they only reversed the decision because of the bad press. if this hadn't made it into the media they'd still be trying to get that money. although i have to agree with almost everyone in this thread, Wal-Mart was legally entitled to that money. this is what happens when you don't read the fine print. also it's really unfair to target Wal-Mart for a practice that is pretty much common with employer-sponsored health plans as the article said. the only reason Wal-Mart is being attacked in this case is that they're an easy target, since everyone already knows they are evil lol.
 

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