Thing I hate (or dislike) the most about 2pac is..

SiGh

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#1
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You fill in the blank.

If you honestly say that there is nothing of Tupac that you don't like, then you are in gay love with him. Lol.


Random story: Recently Funk Flex was on Hot97 saying that, he agrees pac did a lot of the music scene and etc, he's not dying any of that, but he does NOT like him one bit. He doesn't like playing his music, cuz he never liked the man.


Also: Miss Jones in the morning recently had a Tupac discussion that spread from the Alicia Keys quote in the Rolling Stones magazine..which led to like an hour long discussion live. It was awesome, people called up and said what they had to and a lot of good shit was said.




Anyways, back at hand, there has to be something you didn't like about him. Like how he wouldn't stop and he targeted anyone and everyone from NY during the beef and like how he jumped the gun and dissed people only if they were associated with them and etc..

I dunno...there must be something no?
 

EDouble

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#2
got lot of Respect for Tupac made his own decisions, dont see 'hating things about the man though I dont guess Flex on example lay out any reason for shit but each his own actualy it seems Flex talked about Pac longer than recently ago

figure there could be things "hate but ill have to wait others to reply whats yours sigh

I guess hard thing is id venture say if someone actually Knew him thered be lot of things to hate but since not & only know basicaly thru non private were so much support for him for so long only visualise "good" things love things did or things stood for process behind decisons , all that shit
 

EDouble

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#3
Basicaly dont realise yet how someone that didnt know Pac personally have interaction personally could Hate shit about him or any one similarity hates a strong word cases like that where dont know him or havent been around its just if theres hate its just specificaly searching for hate for some one
 

DarkPhantom13

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#4
The arrogant side of 2Pac is wat i didn't like about him. The whole interview where he's with Richie Rich eating pizza and rolling up a blunt, the entire interview he's pretty much just being really ignorant and talking out of his ass. It was times like this that gave Pac a bad image with some people who really didn't wanna give him a chance after that because he came off to fuckin ignorant.
 

Kadafi Son

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#5
I think he put a lil bit too much energy towards the problems he had with Bad Boy, but even I don't really mind that. He was paranoid and in prison for a while....beside that, i cant think of much I really hate about him. That interview he did alongside Richie Rich wasn't my favorite either, but 've talked that same when I'm with my homiez kickin' it, so I still can't be mad at him
 

masta247

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#7
I think I shouldn't judge him on what he thought earlier in life, if he changed his opinion it's great. I will say what I disliked about him just before he died. Like dp said, he was arrogant at times but what I disliked the most was his too gangsta lifestyle. He wasn't like that before. He shouldn't punch Orlando, he shouldn't wish death to others and he shouldn't rhyme about fucking :p It destroyed some of his nice tracks.
Also I liked how he was raw on his own tracks but he shouldn't be that raw in real life imo. I know it would make him a studio gangster - something I hate about rappers these days but on the other hand he would live.
 

EDouble

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#8
^I dont see same corleoations with rhymes on a record & Orlando or Vegas period or whatever the fuck regardless of actual reasons behind the shooting it was "meant happen Pac was probable living rougher before the prison than there after & after problable more together on shit only thing was extremely more ambitious seems with the power he gained coming out in alot of areas he was non stop to the end majority of time couldnt of been spent on Beefs some things just happened to be recorded for ever on records as more of a reference points but he was doing worked on so much shit. One thing after prison more definitely about everything being real being truthful had to have been pulled around by these aspirations or convictions with gain & elevation coming out of jail regaining hope pride & resolutueful thought processes for himself & everyone friends family that wwere left for him after all the dramas and for all that his supporters & fans

"Learned to think ahead, so I fight with my pen
 
#9
I didnt like his earlier anti-white opinions which he did correct later on in his life.
hmmm... i never really saw him as being anti-white (although there was some of that, remember he was raised by a Black Panther) but more anti-establishment, and the majority of the establishment happened to be white. but at the same time those anti-establishment or anti-white sentiments heard in his music were based on his own experiences. if i was black and was harassed by white cops every day and got my ass kicked by them because they didn't believe me when i told them my name, i might have a few biases as well.

as for me personally, what i didn't like about Pac was his arrogance, especially after he got shot in New York. he still said a lot of intelligent things but i think he was feeling himself and his success a bit too much, and it seemed like he actually believed he was untouchable after the shooting (at least his actions certainly mirrored this sentiment). it was a side of Pac i didn't much care for.
 

FroDawgg

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#10
i didn't like the "thug" side--not the anti-establishment, revolutionary part, but when he actually acted like a thug. he was smarter than that, and i believe that's (part of) what got him killed, and if not for that, he might be alive and making a great impact today.
 

Kadafi Son

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#11
Bein' a black panther doesn't automatically mean anything anti-white. Racist whites were the reason for their problems but even the panther accepted assistance from white people, hippies and lawyers.

I didn't really see much anti-white establishments in Pac's music either. But i think it is out of frustration and anger whenever he would rap about the injustice that the crooked white power would oppress him and his people with. It was all just anger at them, not every single white person.
 

Rahim

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#12
i just didn't like when pac talked out of his ass. i guess cuz i expect him to always be in character..that..when hes not in character and hes having a bad day...he'll be talking out of his ass just like anyone else.....but everyone is like that on a bad day..or maybe its just one of those days where ppl think about things way too much and the stuff that comes out of ppls mouth sounds like they're talking out of theyre ass..but theyre really not...thats just how it comes out...
 

masta247

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Bein' a black panther doesn't automatically mean anything anti-white. Racist whites were the reason for their problems but even the panther accepted assistance from white people, hippies and lawyers.

I didn't really see much anti-white establishments in Pac's music either. But i think it is out of frustration and anger whenever he would rap about the injustice that the crooked white power would oppress him and his people with. It was all just anger at them, not every single white person.
2pac was racist towards whites during the beginning of his career. I remember seeing numbers of video footage where he WAS talking bad about white people. Then I remember when he said in an interview (somehow when S4MN was released) that even a skinhead gave him props and I guess that was the time when he changed his opinion on whites, that not every white men is bad, racist etc.
But at the very beginning it's a fact that he didn't like white people much.
 

Kadafi Son

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2pac was racist towards whites during the beginning of his career. I remember seeing numbers of video footage where he WAS talking bad about white people. Then I remember when he said in an interview (somehow when S4MN was released) that even a skinhead gave him props and I guess that was the time when he changed his opinion on whites, that not every white men is bad, racist etc.
But at the very beginning it's a fact that he didn't like white people much.
I guess Pac didn't even like all those white people he always chilled with in that arts school, or John, that white dude Pac even wrote a friendly poem for. Pac said a lot of harsh shit about white people. Hell even koreans and blacks, but he was raised and schooled around too many different types to be ignorantly racist towards anybody. And once again, Black Panthers are not the equivalent to the KKK in any way

Heres the poem for John titled "Nothing Can Come Between Us" which he wrote while attending school

let's not talk of money
let us forget the world
4 a moment let's just revel
in our eternal comradery
in my Heart I know
there will never be a day
that I don't remember
the times we shared
u were a friend
when I was at my lowest
and being a friend 2 me
was not easy or fashionable
regardless of how popular
I become u remain
my unconditional friend
unconditional in its truest sense
did u think I would forget
did u 4 one moment dream
that I would ignore u
if so remember this from here 2 forever
nothing can come between us
 
#15
well no, the Panthers weren't quite the equivalent of the KKK, but i'd wager that most members of the Panther party had biases against white people (whether they were justified or not), and that most of them passed on those biases to their children. but there is no question that a lot of his earlier work was anti-establishment, anti-authority and not really anti-white. i don't believe he was racist but i believe he had biased views about white people that changed over the years.
 

S O F I

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#16
You can take the African out of the bush, but you can't take the bush out of the African.

Same applies to Tupac. He carried his childhood belligerence with him all the way to his death. When he stomped out Orlando, he bragged about knockin him out "like Tyson" to his cousin. That's that type of childhood belligerence/hood mentality shit. How are you going to brag about it, when it was like 10 vs 1 and not to mention, you were seen and will get jailed for that. Not thinking things through was his problem. However, alcohol and drugs had a big effect, too.

Also, I do realize that the African-bush thing is quite a racist thing to say, lol.
 

EDouble

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#17
Not big thing with race "wouldn't you if we could trade places"
but sometimes did or said certain shit early career later "Im not racist anymore' post pen & discussing how everything relates to what he refer to as tribes, where he talks about coming together of black america

round same parts where he talked about the past loyalty to black women then the "rape charge & pissed him off but then changed way of thinking toward it
 
#19
I strongly believe all of Tupac's 'negatives' were natural to his humanity. I honestly believe that Tupac had extremely high moral and ethical stature. Above all his intentions were good. He only beat people down because they got in his way, attacked him first, or because Tupac felt like he couldn't be an angel all the time when society is full of devils.
 

Kadafi Son

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#20
I strongly believe all of Tupac's 'negatives' were natural to his humanity. I honestly believe that Tupac had extremely high moral and ethical stature. Above all his intentions were good. He only beat people down because they got in his way, attacked him first, or because Tupac felt like he couldn't be an angel all the time when society is full of devils.
Co-sign
 

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