the groups pac created
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thx didnt realise hit em up info was still online :thumb:
anything any 1 else wanna add ... do!
that page is good n everythin.. but what about how pac was involved in creatin the havenotz back in the day - even tho it didnt kick off tho really... and fatal n felony - pac had helped there??????? them sort of things im lookin for
thx
anything any 1 else wanna add ... do!
that page is good n everythin.. but what about how pac was involved in creatin the havenotz back in the day - even tho it didnt kick off tho really... and fatal n felony - pac had helped there??????? them sort of things im lookin for
thx
here's a revised version. my revisions are bolded:
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Born Busy
In eighth grade, Tupac under the alias MC New York, Ace Rocker and DJ Plain Terror formed a group, Born Busy. Songs were not recorded in-studio, and were few in number. Most notably: Babies Having Babies, I Saw Your Girl, etc...
2 from the Crew
In 1986 Tupac joined the crew of '2 from the Crew', which was a rap group formed by teenagers who lived in the 'Jungle' of Marin City. This was the time when Pac first came up with his 'Thug Life'. They were called thugs in the neighborhood, that's why their theme song was called 'Thug Life'. So you can see that Pac didn't came up with Thug Life only for the media as some people claim; he was really living it. The group made songs like 'Lifestyle of the Poor and Homie' and 'Lets Get It On'. They were rapping about the life of a young black male living in the ghetto, a topic Pac always wanted to inform the people about. The crew never made it big and 2Pac transitioned away from it as opportinity with Ray Luv and Leila was availed. Ray and Pac clicked instantly and collaborated with each other on several songs and videos.[/b]
Strictly Dope
Tupac was very lucky when he met Leila Steinberg in San Francisco. He became friends with her and she became his manager. She was a show moderator and had good connections in the music industry. She introduced Pac to Ray Luv and later, Tupac and Ray formed the group 'Strictly Dope'. They recorded several songs and after his death they were released on the album '1 in 21'. It was Leila who introduced Pac to Atron Gregory, who was the manager of the grammy-nominated group Digital Underground and liked Pacs raps because they were straight of the street. DJ Fuse and Chopmaster J of Digital Underground fame produced their music. Chopmaster J was later ousted from Digital Underground despite being a founding member, as his focus on money-making damaged the group's cohesivness.
Digital Underground
Tupac was 18 when he joined the bay area based rap crew Digital Underground which was formed by Shock G and ChopMaster J. They had their first record in 1987 called 'Underwater Rimes' which made it to No. 1 in the Netherlands. Then in 1989 they signed to 'Tommy Boy Records.' Around that time they had 7 members, one of them was Tupac. Tupac joined the group and went on tour with them. In order to make room for him on the tour he filled the roadie position. He first appeared on a record on the song 'Same Song' on 'This is an EP release'. Tupac became a solo artist with his first solo record '2Pacalypse Now' but was close with DU until he died in 96, thought he did not work with them during his time with Death Row.
Underground RailRoad
If you take one look in the 2Pacalypse Now booklet, you will notice that all songs are produced by the so called Underground RailRoad. The Underground RailRoad is pretty unknown to most Pac fans. It consists of Raw Fusion, the Live Squad, Big D The Impossible, Pee Wee, Jeremy and members of Digital Underground, the crew Pac joined in the bay area and had his first Studio Records with. Live Squad was the crew of Randy 'Stretch' Walker who was Pac's closest homeboy around the time when 2Pacalypse Now and Strictly For My NIGGAZ were produced. For some unknown reason the Underground Railroad split shortly after that. Mocedes and Mouse Man were intended for the label too. It split after 2Pac realized that the power of a solo career could be used to springboard new acts and names, and that a label at that particular time would not have the power and recognition necessary to be a success. Guest appearances and affiliations were the chosen medium to push out new acts.
ThugLife
In 1992, Tupac met Tyruss "Little Psychopathic Killa" Himes. They recorded a song also titled "Thug Life" and soon Little Psycho joined the group under the name Syke. Later Macadoshis and The Rated R joined the group. They signed with Interscope Records and recorded an LP titled Thug Life Volume 1. It was so hardcore and underground that Interscope at first didn't want it, but they later changed their mind after removing and remixing several songs - most notably the first second single entitled "Cradle to the Grave."
On September 26, 1994, Thug Life Volume 1 was released. It sold gold, which was good, but not as good as they expected. A lot of people blamed Interscope who edited and removed a lot of songs on the LP and not marketing the album correctly. The initial shipment of the album contained a sticker on the front case indicating this was 2Pac's group, however after that 20,000 units the sticker vanished. Potential buyers were not aware of 2Pac's presence on the record and sales goals went unmet. The first single and video was "Pour Out A Little Liquor" which was a Tupac solo song. The second, third and fourth singles and videos were "Cradle To The Grave," "How Long Will They Mourn Me?" and "It Don't Stop."
Dramacydal
Consisting of 2Pac's childhood friends and relatives, this group was a side project completed alongside the Thug Life group album. Dramacydal also contained a sub-group, called Fatal-N-Felony who together recorded two albums of material (
) and included 2Pac and Thug Life cross-features. Despite 2Pac's promotion of the group (I Get Around and So Many Tears B-sides), Dramacydal never won Interscope's favor and their recording sessions went unused, though paid for.
Outlaw Immortalz
A new incarnation of Dramacydal, the Outlaw Immortalz was to represent what 2Pac had meant to achieve with Thug Life and Dramacydal. Each member was given a monicker consistent with the group's theme (enduring and potent leaders of enemy countries to America).
The Outlawz
With some internal friction and logistical problems, the Outlaw Immortalz were trimmed down to just the Outlawz, with fewer but more consistent members. Young Noble was present in many Death Row recording sessions as a friend - not a rapper - and 2Pac instructed him to get on some songs (2Pac didn't like dead weight and everyone in the studio should work). Somewhat of an honorary Outlaw, Noble took greater position in the group after 2Pac's and Yaki's murders, and especially the departure of Mutah from the group.
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Born Busy
In eighth grade, Tupac under the alias MC New York, Ace Rocker and DJ Plain Terror formed a group, Born Busy. Songs were not recorded in-studio, and were few in number. Most notably: Babies Having Babies, I Saw Your Girl, etc...
2 from the Crew
In 1986 Tupac joined the crew of '2 from the Crew', which was a rap group formed by teenagers who lived in the 'Jungle' of Marin City. This was the time when Pac first came up with his 'Thug Life'. They were called thugs in the neighborhood, that's why their theme song was called 'Thug Life'. So you can see that Pac didn't came up with Thug Life only for the media as some people claim; he was really living it. The group made songs like 'Lifestyle of the Poor and Homie' and 'Lets Get It On'. They were rapping about the life of a young black male living in the ghetto, a topic Pac always wanted to inform the people about. The crew never made it big and 2Pac transitioned away from it as opportinity with Ray Luv and Leila was availed. Ray and Pac clicked instantly and collaborated with each other on several songs and videos.[/b]
Strictly Dope
Tupac was very lucky when he met Leila Steinberg in San Francisco. He became friends with her and she became his manager. She was a show moderator and had good connections in the music industry. She introduced Pac to Ray Luv and later, Tupac and Ray formed the group 'Strictly Dope'. They recorded several songs and after his death they were released on the album '1 in 21'. It was Leila who introduced Pac to Atron Gregory, who was the manager of the grammy-nominated group Digital Underground and liked Pacs raps because they were straight of the street. DJ Fuse and Chopmaster J of Digital Underground fame produced their music. Chopmaster J was later ousted from Digital Underground despite being a founding member, as his focus on money-making damaged the group's cohesivness.
Digital Underground
Tupac was 18 when he joined the bay area based rap crew Digital Underground which was formed by Shock G and ChopMaster J. They had their first record in 1987 called 'Underwater Rimes' which made it to No. 1 in the Netherlands. Then in 1989 they signed to 'Tommy Boy Records.' Around that time they had 7 members, one of them was Tupac. Tupac joined the group and went on tour with them. In order to make room for him on the tour he filled the roadie position. He first appeared on a record on the song 'Same Song' on 'This is an EP release'. Tupac became a solo artist with his first solo record '2Pacalypse Now' but was close with DU until he died in 96, thought he did not work with them during his time with Death Row.
Underground RailRoad
If you take one look in the 2Pacalypse Now booklet, you will notice that all songs are produced by the so called Underground RailRoad. The Underground RailRoad is pretty unknown to most Pac fans. It consists of Raw Fusion, the Live Squad, Big D The Impossible, Pee Wee, Jeremy and members of Digital Underground, the crew Pac joined in the bay area and had his first Studio Records with. Live Squad was the crew of Randy 'Stretch' Walker who was Pac's closest homeboy around the time when 2Pacalypse Now and Strictly For My NIGGAZ were produced. For some unknown reason the Underground Railroad split shortly after that. Mocedes and Mouse Man were intended for the label too. It split after 2Pac realized that the power of a solo career could be used to springboard new acts and names, and that a label at that particular time would not have the power and recognition necessary to be a success. Guest appearances and affiliations were the chosen medium to push out new acts.
ThugLife
In 1992, Tupac met Tyruss "Little Psychopathic Killa" Himes. They recorded a song also titled "Thug Life" and soon Little Psycho joined the group under the name Syke. Later Macadoshis and The Rated R joined the group. They signed with Interscope Records and recorded an LP titled Thug Life Volume 1. It was so hardcore and underground that Interscope at first didn't want it, but they later changed their mind after removing and remixing several songs - most notably the first second single entitled "Cradle to the Grave."
On September 26, 1994, Thug Life Volume 1 was released. It sold gold, which was good, but not as good as they expected. A lot of people blamed Interscope who edited and removed a lot of songs on the LP and not marketing the album correctly. The initial shipment of the album contained a sticker on the front case indicating this was 2Pac's group, however after that 20,000 units the sticker vanished. Potential buyers were not aware of 2Pac's presence on the record and sales goals went unmet. The first single and video was "Pour Out A Little Liquor" which was a Tupac solo song. The second, third and fourth singles and videos were "Cradle To The Grave," "How Long Will They Mourn Me?" and "It Don't Stop."
Dramacydal
Consisting of 2Pac's childhood friends and relatives, this group was a side project completed alongside the Thug Life group album. Dramacydal also contained a sub-group, called Fatal-N-Felony who together recorded two albums of material (
) and included 2Pac and Thug Life cross-features. Despite 2Pac's promotion of the group (I Get Around and So Many Tears B-sides), Dramacydal never won Interscope's favor and their recording sessions went unused, though paid for. Outlaw Immortalz
A new incarnation of Dramacydal, the Outlaw Immortalz was to represent what 2Pac had meant to achieve with Thug Life and Dramacydal. Each member was given a monicker consistent with the group's theme (enduring and potent leaders of enemy countries to America).
The Outlawz
With some internal friction and logistical problems, the Outlaw Immortalz were trimmed down to just the Outlawz, with fewer but more consistent members. Young Noble was present in many Death Row recording sessions as a friend - not a rapper - and 2Pac instructed him to get on some songs (2Pac didn't like dead weight and everyone in the studio should work). Somewhat of an honorary Outlaw, Noble took greater position in the group after 2Pac's and Yaki's murders, and especially the departure of Mutah from the group.
Dante said:
here's a revised version. my revisions are bolded:
-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Born Busy
In eighth grade, Tupac under the alias MC New York, Ace Rocker and DJ Plain Terror formed a group, Born Busy. Songs were not recorded in-studio, and were few in number. Most notably: Babies Having Babies, I Saw Your Girl, etc...
2 from the Crew
In 1986 Tupac joined the crew of '2 from the Crew', which was a rap group formed by teenagers who lived in the 'Jungle' of Marin City. This was the time when Pac first came up with his 'Thug Life'. They were called thugs in the neighborhood, that's why their theme song was called 'Thug Life'. So you can see that Pac didn't came up with Thug Life only for the media as some people claim; he was really living it. The group made songs like 'Lifestyle of the Poor and Homie' and 'Lets Get It On'. They were rapping about the life of a young black male living in the ghetto, a topic Pac always wanted to inform the people about. The crew never made it big and 2Pac transitioned away from it as opportinity with Ray Luv and Leila was availed. Ray and Pac clicked instantly and collaborated with each other on several songs and videos.[/b]
Strictly Dope
Tupac was very lucky when he met Leila Steinberg in San Francisco. He became friends with her and she became his manager. She was a show moderator and had good connections in the music industry. She introduced Pac to Ray Luv and later, Tupac and Ray formed the group 'Strictly Dope'. They recorded several songs and after his death they were released on the album '1 in 21'. It was Leila who introduced Pac to Atron Gregory, who was the manager of the grammy-nominated group Digital Underground and liked Pacs raps because they were straight of the street. DJ Fuse and Chopmaster J of Digital Underground fame produced their music. Chopmaster J was later ousted from Digital Underground despite being a founding member, as his focus on money-making damaged the group's cohesivness.
Digital Underground
Tupac was 18 when he joined the bay area based rap crew Digital Underground which was formed by Shock G and ChopMaster J. They had their first record in 1987 called 'Underwater Rimes' which made it to No. 1 in the Netherlands. Then in 1989 they signed to 'Tommy Boy Records.' Around that time they had 7 members, one of them was Tupac. Tupac joined the group and went on tour with them. In order to make room for him on the tour he filled the roadie position. He first appeared on a record on the song 'Same Song' on 'This is an EP release'. Tupac became a solo artist with his first solo record '2Pacalypse Now' but was close with DU until he died in 96, thought he did not work with them during his time with Death Row.
Underground RailRoad
If you take one look in the 2Pacalypse Now booklet, you will notice that all songs are produced by the so called Underground RailRoad. The Underground RailRoad is pretty unknown to most Pac fans. It consists of Raw Fusion, the Live Squad, Big D The Impossible, Pee Wee, Jeremy and members of Digital Underground, the crew Pac joined in the bay area and had his first Studio Records with. Live Squad was the crew of Randy 'Stretch' Walker who was Pac's closest homeboy around the time when 2Pacalypse Now and Strictly For My NIGGAZ were produced. For some unknown reason the Underground Railroad split shortly after that. Mocedes and Mouse Man were intended for the label too. It split after 2Pac realized that the power of a solo career could be used to springboard new acts and names, and that a label at that particular time would not have the power and recognition necessary to be a success. Guest appearances and affiliations were the chosen medium to push out new acts.
ThugLife
In 1992, Tupac met Tyruss "Little Psychopathic Killa" Himes. They recorded a song also titled "Thug Life" and soon Little Psycho joined the group under the name Syke. Later Macadoshis and The Rated R joined the group. They signed with Interscope Records and recorded an LP titled Thug Life Volume 1. It was so hardcore and underground that Interscope at first didn't want it, but they later changed their mind after removing and remixing several songs - most notably the first second single entitled "Cradle to the Grave."
On September 26, 1994, Thug Life Volume 1 was released. It sold gold, which was good, but not as good as they expected. A lot of people blamed Interscope who edited and removed a lot of songs on the LP and not marketing the album correctly. The initial shipment of the album contained a sticker on the front case indicating this was 2Pac's group, however after that 20,000 units the sticker vanished. Potential buyers were not aware of 2Pac's presence on the record and sales goals went unmet. The first single and video was "Pour Out A Little Liquor" which was a Tupac solo song. The second, third and fourth singles and videos were "Cradle To The Grave," "How Long Will They Mourn Me?" and "It Don't Stop."
Dramacydal
Consisting of 2Pac's childhood friends and relatives, this group was a side project completed alongside the Thug Life group album. Dramacydal also contained a sub-group, called Fatal-N-Felony who together recorded two albums of material ( ) and included 2Pac and Thug Life cross-features. Despite 2Pac's promotion of the group (I Get Around and So Many Tears B-sides), Dramacydal never won Interscope's favor and their recording sessions went unused, though paid for.
Outlaw Immortalz
A new incarnation of Dramacydal, the Outlaw Immortalz was to represent what 2Pac had meant to achieve with Thug Life and Dramacydal. Each member was given a monicker consistent with the group's theme (enduring and potent leaders of enemy countries to America).
The Outlawz
With some internal friction and logistical problems, the Outlaw Immortalz were trimmed down to just the Outlawz, with fewer but more consistent members. Young Noble was present in many Death Row recording sessions as a friend - not a rapper - and 2Pac instructed him to get on some songs (2Pac didn't like dead weight and everyone in the studio should work). Somewhat of an honorary Outlaw, Noble took greater position in the group after 2Pac's and Yaki's murders, and especially the departure of Mutah from the group.
-=-=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Born Busy
In eighth grade, Tupac under the alias MC New York, Ace Rocker and DJ Plain Terror formed a group, Born Busy. Songs were not recorded in-studio, and were few in number. Most notably: Babies Having Babies, I Saw Your Girl, etc...
2 from the Crew
In 1986 Tupac joined the crew of '2 from the Crew', which was a rap group formed by teenagers who lived in the 'Jungle' of Marin City. This was the time when Pac first came up with his 'Thug Life'. They were called thugs in the neighborhood, that's why their theme song was called 'Thug Life'. So you can see that Pac didn't came up with Thug Life only for the media as some people claim; he was really living it. The group made songs like 'Lifestyle of the Poor and Homie' and 'Lets Get It On'. They were rapping about the life of a young black male living in the ghetto, a topic Pac always wanted to inform the people about. The crew never made it big and 2Pac transitioned away from it as opportinity with Ray Luv and Leila was availed. Ray and Pac clicked instantly and collaborated with each other on several songs and videos.[/b]
Strictly Dope
Tupac was very lucky when he met Leila Steinberg in San Francisco. He became friends with her and she became his manager. She was a show moderator and had good connections in the music industry. She introduced Pac to Ray Luv and later, Tupac and Ray formed the group 'Strictly Dope'. They recorded several songs and after his death they were released on the album '1 in 21'. It was Leila who introduced Pac to Atron Gregory, who was the manager of the grammy-nominated group Digital Underground and liked Pacs raps because they were straight of the street. DJ Fuse and Chopmaster J of Digital Underground fame produced their music. Chopmaster J was later ousted from Digital Underground despite being a founding member, as his focus on money-making damaged the group's cohesivness.
Digital Underground
Tupac was 18 when he joined the bay area based rap crew Digital Underground which was formed by Shock G and ChopMaster J. They had their first record in 1987 called 'Underwater Rimes' which made it to No. 1 in the Netherlands. Then in 1989 they signed to 'Tommy Boy Records.' Around that time they had 7 members, one of them was Tupac. Tupac joined the group and went on tour with them. In order to make room for him on the tour he filled the roadie position. He first appeared on a record on the song 'Same Song' on 'This is an EP release'. Tupac became a solo artist with his first solo record '2Pacalypse Now' but was close with DU until he died in 96, thought he did not work with them during his time with Death Row.
Underground RailRoad
If you take one look in the 2Pacalypse Now booklet, you will notice that all songs are produced by the so called Underground RailRoad. The Underground RailRoad is pretty unknown to most Pac fans. It consists of Raw Fusion, the Live Squad, Big D The Impossible, Pee Wee, Jeremy and members of Digital Underground, the crew Pac joined in the bay area and had his first Studio Records with. Live Squad was the crew of Randy 'Stretch' Walker who was Pac's closest homeboy around the time when 2Pacalypse Now and Strictly For My NIGGAZ were produced. For some unknown reason the Underground Railroad split shortly after that. Mocedes and Mouse Man were intended for the label too. It split after 2Pac realized that the power of a solo career could be used to springboard new acts and names, and that a label at that particular time would not have the power and recognition necessary to be a success. Guest appearances and affiliations were the chosen medium to push out new acts.
ThugLife
In 1992, Tupac met Tyruss "Little Psychopathic Killa" Himes. They recorded a song also titled "Thug Life" and soon Little Psycho joined the group under the name Syke. Later Macadoshis and The Rated R joined the group. They signed with Interscope Records and recorded an LP titled Thug Life Volume 1. It was so hardcore and underground that Interscope at first didn't want it, but they later changed their mind after removing and remixing several songs - most notably the first second single entitled "Cradle to the Grave."
On September 26, 1994, Thug Life Volume 1 was released. It sold gold, which was good, but not as good as they expected. A lot of people blamed Interscope who edited and removed a lot of songs on the LP and not marketing the album correctly. The initial shipment of the album contained a sticker on the front case indicating this was 2Pac's group, however after that 20,000 units the sticker vanished. Potential buyers were not aware of 2Pac's presence on the record and sales goals went unmet. The first single and video was "Pour Out A Little Liquor" which was a Tupac solo song. The second, third and fourth singles and videos were "Cradle To The Grave," "How Long Will They Mourn Me?" and "It Don't Stop."
Dramacydal
Consisting of 2Pac's childhood friends and relatives, this group was a side project completed alongside the Thug Life group album. Dramacydal also contained a sub-group, called Fatal-N-Felony who together recorded two albums of material (
) and included 2Pac and Thug Life cross-features. Despite 2Pac's promotion of the group (I Get Around and So Many Tears B-sides), Dramacydal never won Interscope's favor and their recording sessions went unused, though paid for. Outlaw Immortalz
A new incarnation of Dramacydal, the Outlaw Immortalz was to represent what 2Pac had meant to achieve with Thug Life and Dramacydal. Each member was given a monicker consistent with the group's theme (enduring and potent leaders of enemy countries to America).
The Outlawz
With some internal friction and logistical problems, the Outlaw Immortalz were trimmed down to just the Outlawz, with fewer but more consistent members. Young Noble was present in many Death Row recording sessions as a friend - not a rapper - and 2Pac instructed him to get on some songs (2Pac didn't like dead weight and everyone in the studio should work). Somewhat of an honorary Outlaw, Noble took greater position in the group after 2Pac's and Yaki's murders, and especially the departure of Mutah from the group.
Rated is my fam, and when he first got locked up i tried to get the tapes back from Pro J who had them. He produced some tracks and same with Assassin, some tracks featured cats from the bay like Spice 1, and the album was pretty much completed, but as of now it is lost in Pro Js vaults. We are still trying to get a hold of the masters so we can release them 4 Rated and with Mac, if any newz comes up ill post it up here first
peace
Josh
peace
Josh
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