SH member Dante is gonna be pissed.....

masta247

Well-Known Member
Staff member
#6
Yeah I'm afraid she's going to mix it. Judging by the condition of mainstream hip-hop these days, it's impossible to make it good that way.
 

Preach

Well-Known Member
#8
There is more going on. Tom Whalley is back in the picture again somehow. If you google his name the first hit will be an article about it. He was credited as A&R director for so to say every 2Pac album that has been released. IIRC he was executive producer of the Django soundtrack, and lo and behold, he puts Pac on there. He's a fan of Pac and the fact that he's back in the mix plus this about new management, is the most refreshing news in a long time.
 

Pittsey

Knock, Knock...
Staff member
#9
There is more going on. Tom Whalley is back in the picture again somehow. If you google his name the first hit will be an article about it. He was credited as A&R director for so to say every 2Pac album that has been released. IIRC he was executive producer of the Django soundtrack, and lo and behold, he puts Pac on there. He's a fan of Pac and the fact that he's back in the mix plus this about new management, is the most refreshing news in a long time.
The Django track is shit though...!
 

dilla

Trumpfan17 aka Coonie aka Dilla aka Tennis Dog
#11
So on my way to the clinic today I had my iPod on shuffle in the car and after listening to an odd mixture of trance, Led Zeppelin, Van Halen, and a song from the Assassin's Creed soundtrack, "When we ride" came on.

I forgot how much Pac's music changes its meaning to the listener as you age. When I first got into rap in 2002 when I was 13, it was just cool listening to him talk about killing people and all that. Then the whole period between then and now I knew there was a deeper message but didn't know exactly what. I kinda faded in and out of revisiting his music. But within the past year or two I've come to appreciate it for a lot more.

I hate to draw comparison to any holy book, be it the Gita, Bible, whatever. But the way people take the stories and morals and all that from these holy scriptures, I feel like Pac's music is as versatile. Depending on the listener, it could mean many different things. Different obstacles and situations, but the attitude and outlook and emotions tied up with it, I feel like Pac encapsulated it perfectly.

Sorry if it's been realized, discussed, and beaten to death before, but I recently realized this after really giving it some thought. When I was still in my early teens, it was almost a catchphrase that "Pac was the best rapper ever" but I don't think at 14 you've lived enough to say something like that and really mean it. I guess some people might have, but not me and certainly not most of my peers at that time. But after seeing what others have to go through, and hell, what you yourself has to go through to even the break the surface in the real world, it's not hard to see why Pac's music is as inspiring to some as religious books are to others. I don't think I can say that about any other musician from any genre. I mean, sure, music speaks to your soul and all that bullshit, but when it comes to the real world, I don't think someone can invoke emotions as strong as Pac can/did.

Just a random rant.
 

Preach

Well-Known Member
#12
The Django track is shit though...!
The only part about the remix I don't like is the fact that they used the retail remix acapella with that godawful chorus. The rest of the song in itself works in the movie, like Masta said. Also kinda cheesy how they added the "Expect me nigga like you expect Jesus to come back", because given the context of the scene it kinda made little sense to bring Jesus into the picture, but oh well. Badass it was.
 

Shadows

Well-Known Member
#13
So on my way to the clinic today I had my iPod on shuffle in the car and after listening to an odd mixture of trance, Led Zeppelin, Van Halen, and a song from the Assassin's Creed soundtrack, "When we ride" came on.

I forgot how much Pac's music changes its meaning to the listener as you age. When I first got into rap in 2002 when I was 13, it was just cool listening to him talk about killing people and all that. Then the whole period between then and now I knew there was a deeper message but didn't know exactly what. I kinda faded in and out of revisiting his music. But within the past year or two I've come to appreciate it for a lot more.

I hate to draw comparison to any holy book, be it the Gita, Bible, whatever. But the way people take the stories and morals and all that from these holy scriptures, I feel like Pac's music is as versatile. Depending on the listener, it could mean many different things. Different obstacles and situations, but the attitude and outlook and emotions tied up with it, I feel like Pac encapsulated it perfectly.

Sorry if it's been realized, discussed, and beaten to death before, but I recently realized this after really giving it some thought. When I was still in my early teens, it was almost a catchphrase that "Pac was the best rapper ever" but I don't think at 14 you've lived enough to say something like that and really mean it. I guess some people might have, but not me and certainly not most of my peers at that time. But after seeing what others have to go through, and hell, what you yourself has to go through to even the break the surface in the real world, it's not hard to see why Pac's music is as inspiring to some as religious books are to others. I don't think I can say that about any other musician from any genre. I mean, sure, music speaks to your soul and all that bullshit, but when it comes to the real world, I don't think someone can invoke emotions as strong as Pac can/did.

Just a random rant.
Exactly why. Sometimes it's listening to it one day, and a month later after going through something, you hear something else. such a great artist. i hope his music is only improved on, like some tracks that came out better than the original, like some in better days.
 

Da_Funk

Well-Known Member
#14
So on my way to the clinic today I had my iPod on shuffle in the car and after listening to an odd mixture of trance, Led Zeppelin, Van Halen, and a song from the Assassin's Creed soundtrack, "When we ride" came on.

I forgot how much Pac's music changes its meaning to the listener as you age. When I first got into rap in 2002 when I was 13, it was just cool listening to him talk about killing people and all that. Then the whole period between then and now I knew there was a deeper message but didn't know exactly what. I kinda faded in and out of revisiting his music. But within the past year or two I've come to appreciate it for a lot more.

I hate to draw comparison to any holy book, be it the Gita, Bible, whatever. But the way people take the stories and morals and all that from these holy scriptures, I feel like Pac's music is as versatile. Depending on the listener, it could mean many different things. Different obstacles and situations, but the attitude and outlook and emotions tied up with it, I feel like Pac encapsulated it perfectly.

Sorry if it's been realized, discussed, and beaten to death before, but I recently realized this after really giving it some thought. When I was still in my early teens, it was almost a catchphrase that "Pac was the best rapper ever" but I don't think at 14 you've lived enough to say something like that and really mean it. I guess some people might have, but not me and certainly not most of my peers at that time. But after seeing what others have to go through, and hell, what you yourself has to go through to even the break the surface in the real world, it's not hard to see why Pac's music is as inspiring to some as religious books are to others. I don't think I can say that about any other musician from any genre. I mean, sure, music speaks to your soul and all that bullshit, but when it comes to the real world, I don't think someone can invoke emotions as strong as Pac can/did.

Just a random rant.
Gotta hand it to ya, you said almost perfectly. I pretty much haven't listened to rap music since ~2009 but no one's music has evoked the feelings in me that 2pacs has.
 

dilla

Trumpfan17 aka Coonie aka Dilla aka Tennis Dog
#17
He looks Filipino, which would make him "Asian" but those turd surfers prefer to be known as "Pacific Islanders."

You get fucked by one Spaniard and now you want a whole new "race."
 

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