NISSAN GT-R... official info!

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NISSAN ANNOUNCES NEW NISSAN GT-R
- New Dimensional Multi-Performance Supercar Available in Early December –


TOKYO (Oct. 24, 2007) - Nissan Motor Co., Ltd., today announced the launch of the Nissan GT-R, a new multi-dimensional performance machine that lives up to the concept of "an ultimate supercar for anyone, anywhere, at anytime". The Nissan GT-R features a newly developed Premium Midship package, including the world's first independent transaxle 4WD developed independently by Nissan. The Nissan GT-R will be available in Japan mainly through Nissan High Performance Centers nationwide from December 6th.

The Nissan GT-R was developed with a new understanding and appreciation of the Earth's natural forces – gravity, inertial force and aerodynamics – and translates those forces into a completely new design, maximizing tire grip and airflow.

Basic vehicle dynamics and integration with the driver have also been examined, resulting in new componentry and creating a Human-Machine Interface (HMI) never seen before in the marketplace. All of these theories have been integrated to balance "speed and efficiency," "high-output with environmental consideration" and "high performance and safety."

Taking these factors into account, Nissan created the all-new Nissan GT-R, which offers advanced high performance for secure and enjoyable driving by minimizing the effects of climatic, road condition or driving technique limitations. The Nissan GT-R offers ultimate performance for virtually every driving situation – whether it be the Nurburgring circuit, to snow, rain or urban areas – all manageable by the GT-R driver through advanced technology and driving dynamics.

The Nissan GT-R's unique characteristics are instilled not just in the vehicle's design, but also through a specialized production process. Carbon fiber, aluminum and steel components are assembled with a special high-precision process, which includes a series of vibration tests. Engines and transmissions are assembled by a single craftsman in a "clean room" environment and upon completion, every GT-R undergoes a battery of comprehensive tests to ensure the proper operation of all vehicle components.

To properly support the all-new GT-R, Nissan has established special Nissan High Performance Centers, where all certified advisors and technicians have received extensive training. Total support for the GT-R owner is offered for the first three years of ownership, including measurement and adjustment of the engine, transmission and wheel alignment after the first 1000 km, and again every 12 months, free of charge.

Packaging and Driveline Suited for a Supercar
The all-new Nissan GT-R uses a Premium Midship package, an all-new, more advanced version Front Midship (FM) package utilized on other Nissan vehicles. This new package enables the use of the world's first application of an independent transaxle 4WD system. The transaxle's layout places the dual-clutch transmission, transfer case and final drive at the rear of the vehicle (instead of the usual front location), which enables vehicle weight to be evenly distributed throughout the car. This gives the Nissan GT-R a superb front-to-rear weight balance, while enhancing leg and foot space and allowing for an optimal pedal layout.

Under the hood, the Nissan GT-R features an all-new 3.8-litre twin turbo V6 "VR38" engine, featuring plasma-sprayed bores and a special twin-turbo exhaust manifold system. A secondary air management system enables the newly designed powerplant to provide approximately 40kg/m of torque during ordinary low-rev driving, which gives an optimum air-fuel ratio for around-town efficiency and helps the Nissan GT-R meet ultra-low emission vehicle (U-LEV) standards in Japan.

The Nissan GT-R's new engine produces 480PS (353kW) at 6400rpm and maximum torque of 60kgm (588Nm) from 3200 to 5200rpm. Putting the power to the ground is an all-new GR6-type dual clutch transmission, with paddle shifting and a Borg Warner six-plate dual clutch for direct control.

Suspension duties are handled through a special Bilstein DampTronic*1 system, which utilizes all pertinent vehicle information to provide appropriate damping forces for all situations and helps maintain a high level of control for straight-line driving, cornering, and braking.

Braking is essential for a daily-driven supercar and the GT-R features large Brembo full-floating drilled rotors, low steel high stiffness brake pads and Brembo mono block six-piston front and four-piston rear calipers, which in combination minimize fade and provide stable braking. Run-flat tires, exclusively designed for use on the Nissan GT-R, balance high grip and all-weather capabilities and a comfortable ride in all driving situations. The tires are designed to maintain structure for 80km of travel at 80 km/h, while still providing an acceptable level of performance.

High-Performance Safety and Environmental Technologies
The Nissan GT-R offers a long list of safety and environmental features, including, for enhanced visibility inside and out of the vehicle, high-mounted LED stoplamps, bright LED rear combination taillights, "super wide beam" headlights, heated door mirrors and flat-blade wipers.

Standard safety equipment includes a pop-up engine hood system for enhanced pedestrian safety, driver and front passenger SRS Air Bag System, ELR front seat belts with tension reducer, front seat belts with load limiter, and three-point ELR rear seat belts. Driver and front passenger SRS Side Air Bag System and SRS Curtain Air Bag System are offered as options.

Environmental technologies include extensive work to create an U-LEV certification in Japan for the 3.8-liter twin turbo engine and reduced levels of volatile organic compound for materials used in the car.

Functional Design – High Performance Aerodynamics and Style
The Nissan GT-R's styling follows the function over form theory. Every styling aspect, from the overall design to the smallest details, is created to maximize the vehicle's driving experience – as well as suggesting GT-R's "supercar" level of performance. Utilizing advanced aerodynamics, the Nissan GT-R's aggressive styling evokes the lines of a well-trained athlete, combining strong character lines with smooth and solid areas.

The all-new GT-R's body is created with a combination of steel, carbon fiber and aluminum, providing a unique combination of stiffness and lightness. The Nissan GT-R features a low coefficient of drag of 0.27, with high front and rear downforce, which provides the GT-R with enhanced grip in all weather situations, while also enhancing fuel efficiency.

The front fenders express power and stability, while the "aero-blades" on the fenders' leading edges provide optimum airflow around the tires and along the body. The scoop in the fenders' trailing edges assists in providing front downforce and optimization of side airflow. The aggressive front end, with a large hood budge and single air intake, provides a sophisticated style as well as undisturbed airflow for power and cooling. New "super wide beam" headlights feature three additional sub-reflectors (compared to conventional lights) to give a wider spread to the illumination area.

The Nissan GT-R's large, four-passenger cabin features a sloping "aero blade canopy" roofline and curved C-pillar "sword edge," which expresses the distinctive GT-R identity, as well as facilitating air flow around the rear of the vehicle. The GT-R's hallmark four-ring taillights, efficient rear spoiler and large, integrated φ120 exhaust tips, provides the signature rear view of the GT-R, as well as optimizing airflow along the top and under the vehicle.

The high level of advanced technology is evident even in the Nissan GT-R's paint – which utilizes a "double clear coat" and "anti-chipping" process. The Nissan GT-R features Ultimate Silver as a special new color, which is painstakingly hand-polished by craftsman.

An Interior Suitable for Daily Driving or Supercar Duties
Key to the Nissan GT-R's usability as a both daily driver and a high-performance supercar is its interior, which is designed to balance functionality, a sense of ease, and comfort.

Sculpted performance bucket seats give the driver and passenger a comfortable driving experience, and soft pads are utilized on the dash in front of the passenger and doors to give an extra level of comfort and safety.

The instrument panel surrounds the driver, with all meters and multi-function meter at a uniform height to minimize the driver's head movement when traveling at high speeds. A large center-mounted tachometer, with gear display on its upper right, as well as the easy-to-read graphics of the display, gives the driver instant detailed information, essential for the performance nature of the GT-R.
 
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Functional style is also evident in the Nissan GT-R – each meter features a dial plate design that evokes the idea of engaged gears, as well as a three-dimensional metal-like ring, suggesting the multi-dimensional performance of the GT-R. A large, metallic-framed center console features the ergonomically designed shift lever and a red "engine start" button.

Adjustability is central to the daily-driver nature of the Nissan GT-R, with a special "set-up switch" located in the center of the instrument panel. This switch enables the driver to adjust transmission shifts, shock absorbers and the Vehicle Dynamic Control (VDC-R) in three settings – Normal, Comfort or R, the high-performance setting designed for the Nissan GT-R "supercar" application.

A high-speed, high-capacity CARWINGS (Japan market) navigation system, with a powerful 30GB hard disk drive, features an easy-to-use touch pad, as well as traditional navigation switches. The screen interface features not only the navigation system, but also an enriched entertainment system with a Music Box hard drive, DVD and CD player, and Bluetooth® *2 audio function.

For special use in the GT-R application, the multi-function meter also includes mechanical and driving information for safe high performance driving, including acceleration opening, brake pedal pressure, and steering angle. It also includes an "optimal gearshift map," to emphasize economical vehicle operation.

A specially designed BOSE sound system includes two forward-facing woofers in the rear center armrest area combined with traditional door speakers. All speakers are mounted in rigid aluminum die cast panels, which combined with the design of the system itself, provide sound quality suitable for a supercar.

Pricing and Sales Target
200 units / month

Drivetrain Engine Grade Transmission Price (yen, Consumption tax included)

GT-R GR6-type dual 7,770,000
4WD VR38DETT GT-R Black edition clutch 7,927,500
GT-R Premium edition transmittion 8,347,500


*1: Bilstein DampTronic is the registered trademark of ThyssenKrupp Bilstein Suspension GmbH
*2: Bluetooth® and the Bluetooth logo are trademarks of Bluetooth SIG Inc. of the U.S.
 

Duke

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Interesting. Seems they really went to town on this car....practically everything is new. The engine, the gearbox, the 4wd system. I just kinda skimmed the article but so far it looks like ATESSA is replaced and HICAS is, just gone?

Anyway, it'll be a Monstar.
 
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Interesting. Seems they really went to town on this car....practically everything is new. The engine, the gearbox, the 4wd system. I just kinda skimmed the article but so far it looks like ATESSA is replaced and HICAS is, just gone?
I was also surprised that it had a new AWD system (as none of the previous reports of the GT-R said anything about it), but HICAS was never really all that great, to tell you the truth, as it doesn't seem to make much sense to go through the trouble of installing it.
 

Duke

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It wasn't a race winner, no, but it helped, I suppose.

I still think they made a mistake by not offering a manual.
 
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I wouldn't go so far as to call it a mistake. Dual-clutch gearboxes shift faster, and due to its nature, they are always consistent and practically eliminate shifting error. Plus, the driver will have just as much control as he would with a standard manual. It might be slightly less involving, but 95% of drivers would pull better times in a car equipped with a dual-clutch gearbox compare to the same car with a standard manual with identical gearing. Besides, I think most people will forget about their preference for a manual once you let all 473 horses loose or go around a corner.
 

Duke

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I know it's technically a better option (although the clutch will not last as long as a properly driven manual) and it's a bit of a fashion fad at the moment, but still. I don't think people that buy this car will really give a shit about the tiny gain in times, because, let's be honest, most people that buy a machine like this like to think they're awesome drivers but in 90% of the cases the car will never see it's full potential realized (and I don't mean doing 300 in a straight line). Shouldn't it be more about fun rather than this clinical knick knack pattywhack approach to building the car? It seems that these flappy paddle boxes are more about bragging rights and covering up the fact that rich assholes don't know how to properly use a clutch pedal and a gear lever rather than being an actual, always-effective true upgrade for a car.

And even if all I just said is rubbish, they could've at least given the OPTION to get a manual 'box.

But maybe I'm being too much of a purist, here.
 
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I know it's technically a better option (although the clutch will not last as long as a properly driven manual) and it's a bit of a fashion fad at the moment, but still.
Actually, dual-clutch gearboxes are expected to last longer for a couple reasons. One, it's all computer-controlled, virtually minimizing excessive wear that would happen in a regular manual (due to driver error with the clutch pedal). Two, there are TWO clutches splitting the standard wear-and-tear from regular use. In a regular manual, going from first to sixth from a standstill would require clutch engagement and disengagement six times, whereas in a dual-clutch, it only does it three times to each clutch, which will at least double each clutch's lifespan.
I don't think people that buy this car will really give a shit about the tiny gain in times, because, let's be honest, most people that buy a machine like this like to think they're awesome drivers but in 90% of the cases the car will never see it's full potential realized (and I don't mean doing 300 in a straight line).
I see your point, but unfortunately that's true for the vast majority of sports cars, so you can't attribute this to the transmission.
It seems that these flappy paddle boxes are more about bragging rights and covering up the fact that rich assholes don't know how to properly use a clutch pedal and a gear lever rather than being an actual, always-effective true upgrade for a car.
I disagree. This might be true for a tiptronic transmission (literally an automatic transmission with upshift and downshift buttons), but for dual-clutch and sequential manual gearboxes, they both shift faster than 99% of humans and make driving easier, so there's no reason for a serious car manufacturer to not consider its use in a factory car.
And even if all I just said is rubbish, they could've at least given the OPTION to get a manual 'box.

But maybe I'm being too much of a purist, here.
I don't blame you, a manual gearbox would've been a nice option, but in models where both a standard manual and an automated manual gearbox has been offered (various Ferraris, Audis, BMWs, VWs, etc.), the one with the automated manual gearbox is in higher demand, which leads to greater production of models with that transmission... plus they're just flat-out faster.

It's definitely less involving in that aspect though, but it just depends on what you want... more work to do to make you feel skilled, or faster times to make you look skilled.
 

Duke

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Yeah I know, man. It's not that I dislike technological advancement. Au contraire, I'm a big fan of it. It just seems that, somehow, all the gizmo's are taking the edge out of the car.

Like a year or two ago, with the launch of the F430 (saw one the other day, cabriolet, all black. looked alright, but I'd prefer the new Mazzer coupe gt next to it), Ferrari bragged that an ordinary driver would be able to lap their test track only a second slower than their pro test drivers.

I'm thinking, is that really what we want? A car to mask a person's shortcomings as a driver?
 
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Yeah I know, man. It's not that I dislike technological advancement. Au contraire, I'm a big fan of it. It just seems that, somehow, all the gizmo's are taking the edge out of the car.
Point taken. But I think this would apply more to gadgets that remove the human element of interaction. Sequential manual and dual-clutch gearboxes might take out the clutch pedal, but it's still a human shifting whenever they want or as necessary. Things like the S-AWC seem to remove human involvement just a tad more than newer transmissions, since in drivetrains like these, you just point with the steering wheel, and the car goes. This isn't necessarily a bad thing, but when it's to the point where the car has electronic intervention (rather than chassis engineering) to prevent you from having to give steering input, it's watering down the experience somewhat... even if you end up lapping a track quicker :p
Like a year or two ago, with the launch of the F430 (saw one the other day, cabriolet, all black. looked alright, but I'd prefer the new Mazzer coupe gt next to it), Ferrari bragged that an ordinary driver would be able to lap their test track only a second slower than their pro test drivers.
I think that Ferrari might've been talking about an experienced amateur who does track time on the regular, rather than just some joe shmoe who you hand Ferrari keys to. Plus I'm quite sure the difference will be greater than a second in such a situation.
I'm thinking, is that really what we want? A car to mask a person's shortcomings as a driver?
I hope not. A lot of these conveniences are going to make shitty drivers worse. Recently, I was driving my mom's Mercedes E320 from somewhere on the freeway. Obviously my physical responses are good, so I'm never really caught off-guard. But anyway, I saw a car in front of me slow down pretty quickly (nothing to get worked up over), but I applied the brakes a bit stronger than normal (expecting the car to apply a certain amount of pressure), but due to the BA (Brake Assist), the computers applied full brake pressure instead of the input I gave (since I suppose it assumes all drivers are terrible and when it notices a drastic change in the speed you hit the brake pedal, it pretty much slams on the brakes for you), making the whole car almost come to a screeching halt from 70-75 mph, so the car almost came to a stop while the cars behind me almost plowed into me, but luckily I let off of the brake pedal almost immediately, and the brakes released after a moment. It was scary, almost as if an anchor had been dropped out of the car or if the engine had fallen out under the car.

So anyway, I know that a lot of these things tend to be for safety to eliminate driver error, but all it does is let people be worse drivers through the years while making electronics make up for a lack of driving skill. Same thing with Lexus' parallel parking feature (as if most of those Lexus LS drivers parallel park their car, like if they like in crappy neighborhoods with no parking). It's not that hard to just be a better driver.
 

Duke

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Same thing with Lexus' parallel parking feature (as if most of those Lexus LS drivers parallel park their car, like if they like in crappy neighborhoods with no parking). It's not that hard to just be a better driver.

Haha, that was the very first thing that came to mind when I first saw that Lexus with the parking trick.
 
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According to the Car & Driver article on the new GT-R, apparently the turbos are boosting 10.2 psi... so I'd say that leaves a bit of room for improvement, so breaking well into the 500 hp range should be well within reach.
 
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Biggest question may become how much the block can handle.
While I don't think it will be able to manhandle 1000+ hp like the older GT-R blocks, I don't think it's going to be a huge deal for the majority of GT-R owners. (It's usually only guys like us who probably won't buy the GT-R for a while who ask questions like these.) But the bigger question is, how much the transmission can handle when cranking up the power.
 

Duke

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The "tunability" of the car as a whole has definitely decreased. It's become more "true" supercar and less of a street car. Maybe it has become more brittle as well, in true supercar fashion. :)
 
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yeah.... that's sick.... i wonder how the States are gonna receive the car.... little ricers wont be able to afford the 70k+ price tag... so who's gonna buy?? i dont think the vette/viper buyers are gonna leave one brand, let alone their country's car....
 
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The Vette/Viper crowd will be harder to win over, though it's not impossible. Think about it, the appeal of those cars is their massive amounts of hp and torque for less money than what the Europeans charge. The GT-R provides this, but even more performance and reliability, along with being able to drive it every season. However, it'll surely win over a few Porsche fans, since they will be able to get performance superior to a 911 Turbo for around the same money as a Cayman S.
 

C.R.Y.

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the engine is good. i think it will be able to make at least 600awhp on stock turbos. theres a reason why it can weigh 3800lbs and hit 0-60 in 3.3, run mid 11s and trap 120. they make around 470awhp on the latest dyno test. but i doubt itll hold 1000hp on the stock block. not even rb26 were capable 1k unless built. they tend to be unreliable at anything over 600hp. the trans on this thing is what i really question.
 
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The Vette/Viper crowd will be harder to win over, though it's not impossible. Think about it, the appeal of those cars is their massive amounts of hp and torque for less money than what the Europeans charge. The GT-R provides this, but even more performance and reliability, along with being able to drive it every season. However, it'll surely win over a few Porsche fans, since they will be able to get performance superior to a 911 Turbo for around the same money as a Cayman S.
the cayman's look horrible, btw... but the gt-r is about 15k more than a cayman, isnt it?? the z06's go for around 70 or so dont they??

and also alot of car enthusiasts might have the whole american pride thing going on... maybe they'll only buy american, like the vipers, chargers, 300's, gtos and mustangs...
 

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