Looks like we'll probably see a new 2pac album this year. Global music boss said he's willing to release an album with 20 untouched, unremixed 2pac songs. All he has to get is a permission from Afeni. The question is.. will she give her son's fans what they want, or completly fuck his legacy like she was doing lately?
New 2pac album
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Global has the tracks since they acquired Death Row, but Afeni still holds the rights to all his works, including those held by DR. they would need her approval before any release. that's why all the DR Pac albums since he's passed have been under DR and the Amaru label.
as for making more money with unremixed tracks, i find it highly unlikely. the only ones who really care about the tracks being remixed are the die-hard fans who have the OGs. the average fan buying Pac albums in this day and age are probably the kids who listen to today's rap music, which is A LOT different than it was when Pac was still around, and would rather see them remixed. i'd rather have the OG's but from a business perspective i don't see the tracks being OG making any real impact in terms of sales.
as for making more money with unremixed tracks, i find it highly unlikely. the only ones who really care about the tracks being remixed are the die-hard fans who have the OGs. the average fan buying Pac albums in this day and age are probably the kids who listen to today's rap music, which is A LOT different than it was when Pac was still around, and would rather see them remixed. i'd rather have the OG's but from a business perspective i don't see the tracks being OG making any real impact in terms of sales.
According to the court documents Death Row OWNED an entire album worth of unreleased Pac music because of a deal they made with Afeni years ago when all the legal shit happened between Amaru and Death Row over Pac's music. The unreleased Pac album was one of the main selling points when Death Row's assets went up for auction. Afeni really should have no say in this album since it really is Global's property now that they won the bid for Death Row's assets.
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all they gotta do is leave them OGs and get 2 or 3 of the biggest bangers on there for the singles and promote them and the whole album like krazy an then watch the cash roll in. no 1 even knows wen a new pac album is released except the die hard fans on these kind of sites they need to be known on all music sites. they need to promote everywhere so that every music fan whether it be rock, dance or country know about it even tho they not gonna get at least the message is out there that there is a new pac album with bangers an classics. promotin is the key imo
all they gotta do is leave them OGs and get 2 or 3 of the biggest bangers on there for the singles and promote them and the whole album like krazy an then watch the cash roll in. no 1 even knows wen a new pac album is released except the die hard fans on these kind of sites they need to be known on all music sites. they need to promote everywhere so that every music fan whether it be rock, dance or country know about it even tho they not gonna get at least the message is out there that there is a new pac album with bangers an classics. promotin is the key imo
"Dude, the woman is a saint! She stepped up to the plate and took care of Pac's business. If she hadnt then his legacy would of been tossed around all over the place and people would be claiming his music when they had no right to. Fucking up his legacy? Nah i reckon she protected his legacy !"
NOW IVE HEARD IT ALL,
"PROTECTED HIS LEGACY"???????HAHA, THATS A JOKE I HOPE!?.......IF U TRYN' 2 TELL ME HIS MA'S VERSIONS ARE BETTER THAN THA WAY HE RECORDED?! GIMME SUMMA WHAT U SMOKIN!!!!!!!
NOW IVE HEARD IT ALL,
"PROTECTED HIS LEGACY"???????HAHA, THATS A JOKE I HOPE!?.......IF U TRYN' 2 TELL ME HIS MA'S VERSIONS ARE BETTER THAN THA WAY HE RECORDED?! GIMME SUMMA WHAT U SMOKIN!!!!!!!
Have you even heard some of the OGs that were recorded? U know how in-complete most of them were? Are you being serious? They werent even finished versions and you want them released in that form? Even 'Pac wouldnt of released most of them in that form! Your acting like she was the one who sat in the studio and put the beats together - get some knowledge and education and then your opinion might stand straight in front of me. If any of y'all could see what would of happened if 'Feni didnt take control of his legacy then you'd all be sitting here crying your eyes out about how 'Pacs work has been torn apart by anyone who could get there hands on it. Only bad thing to come out of the legacy since his death was Loyal to The Game, and for that i hold Em responsible.
Pe3ce
Pe3ce
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Nah, even if they were incomplete (which most of em weren't), I think they'd still be worth listening to. All the OG's really needed were re-polished beats like they did with Who Do You Believe In or Fuckin Wit The Wrong Nigga.I think Pac would agree justice still would not have been done to his music. I mean, why the hell would you remix Wordz 2 My Firstborn OG. Cuz you couldn't pay for Nutt-so?! But then he's on Ghetto Star released a year later. And then Wordz 2 My Firstborn OG and released version had the same producers (DJ Quik). I could go on about some other songs but bottom line is if you can make platinum off of R U Still Down, which was basically just polished up songs, why drastically change the formula. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. I can still relate to Pacs wordz in Loyal 2 The Game, but I would only wanna hear it once or twice. I don't even know the words to Soldier Like Me, Black Cotton or any song before track 13 besides UpperCut...(im sleepy)
Nah, even if they were incomplete (which most of em weren't), I think they'd still be worth listening to. All the OG's really needed were re-polished beats like they did with Who Do You Believe In or Fuckin Wit The Wrong Nigga.I think Pac would agree justice still would not have been done to his music. I mean, why the hell would you remix Wordz 2 My Firstborn OG. Cuz you couldn't pay for Nutt-so?! But then he's on Ghetto Star released a year later. And then Wordz 2 My Firstborn OG and released version had the same producers (DJ Quik). I could go on about some other songs but bottom line is if you can make platinum off of R U Still Down, which was basically just polished up songs, why drastically change the formula. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. I can still relate to Pacs wordz in Loyal 2 The Game, but I would only wanna hear it once or twice. I don't even know the words to Soldier Like Me, Black Cotton or any song before track 13 besides UpperCut...(im sleepy)
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But dude, RUSD album was alot of pre-95 recorded material and 90 - 95% complete. Some were scraps from the Me against the world album. But 'Pacs deathrow era stuff was done in such a rush because he just wanted spit as many songs as he could and get his verses down. He said it himself in that clip of him in the studio - "Just lay your verses and when y'all not here the producers/engineers can do the rest. But just get on the mic, spit your verse and move onto the next" - They were his words! (or near enough)
But I do agree that there were some complete tracks which could of been released. I can understand why 'Feni didnt want to pay for the clearance of samples. Her goal was to fund the Arts Centre and the more she made on the albums then the longer she can fund it. I dont think she sat there in her chair one days plotting "Right, now how can i fuck up my sons legacy?". - She did what she could when she was put in that position. And for a woman who's prime skill isnt recording label exec, she did a pretty good fuckin' job stepping up!
This debate on "Did 'Feni do right or wrong" will never come to an agreement. Although parts of me agree's what people say, i just think she deserves more credit than she has been getting.
Pe3ce
But dude, RUSD album was alot of pre-95 recorded material and 90 - 95% complete. Some were scraps from the Me against the world album. But 'Pacs deathrow era stuff was done in such a rush because he just wanted spit as many songs as he could and get his verses down. He said it himself in that clip of him in the studio - "Just lay your verses and when y'all not here the producers/engineers can do the rest. But just get on the mic, spit your verse and move onto the next" - They were his words! (or near enough)
But I do agree that there were some complete tracks which could of been released. I can understand why 'Feni didnt want to pay for the clearance of samples. Her goal was to fund the Arts Centre and the more she made on the albums then the longer she can fund it. I dont think she sat there in her chair one days plotting "Right, now how can i fuck up my sons legacy?". - She did what she could when she was put in that position. And for a woman who's prime skill isnt recording label exec, she did a pretty good fuckin' job stepping up!
This debate on "Did 'Feni do right or wrong" will never come to an agreement. Although parts of me agree's what people say, i just think she deserves more credit than she has been getting.
Pe3ce
I've always perceived that he was under alot of pressure that he bought on himself to spit as many songs as he could because of the time he lost in jail and the fact that he wanted to out-do his rivals in terms of music. Producers, engineers and everyone else involved could not keep up with him. He was spitting verses faster than they could produce. All he wanted was a beat - or at the very least a bassline with a melody. And the majority of the songs were just that. The finished product would of seen alot more mixing - added samples etc but there was never enough time because he was ready to lay down a new rap. I dont think 'Pac ever intended alot of the tracks that we hear as "OG's" to be released in that form. I think there was still alot of work to be done on them. The problem was nobody could keep up with him. If you listen to the quality of tracks that were released on All Eyes on Me and 7 Day Theory - they were much more polished and complete than most of the unreleased stuff. I dont even think First to Bomb OG was a completed song. It was a very basic beat and no way up to the standard 'Pac was releasing at the time. Even Hell 4 A Hustla, All Out, Until The end of Time, - not complete. They even sound like drafts, but to us there worth there weight in gold because there the only version we got to hear that were recorded with him in the studio.
Your right what you say about the fact that alot of them could of been polished up, but that would mean getting the same studio team together that helped produce the OGs. But these are new times and they were old memories . ..
Pe3ce
Your right what you say about the fact that alot of them could of been polished up, but that would mean getting the same studio team together that helped produce the OGs. But these are new times and they were old memories . ..
Pe3ce
that was part of it, but a lot of it was because, as people seem to keep forgetting, he was going back to jail. he was out on bail pending appeal at the time of his death, so chances are pretty high he would have gone back to finish his 4-1/2 year sentence. i think this was the main reason he recorded so much while on DR, he wanted to make sure his finances would be secure when he got out. remember, after all of his legal troubles before DR, he was damn near broke.
i do believe, however, that most of the stuff he recorded on DR, the OGs, were how he intended them. not exactly obviously, the tracks hadn't been mixed and they would have still needed some work before release, but they wouldn't be drastically different from what we have now. think of DJ Mathematic's Wu-Tang mixtape and the tracks that were on there from the new Wu album. those were the raw tracks, what we got on the album wasn't much different (some instruments added in, a few touch-ups here and there, etc.). that's the kind of shit that needed to be done with Pac's tracks, it's not as though he just rapped over a random beat, never planning on using that beat for that track.
i do believe, however, that most of the stuff he recorded on DR, the OGs, were how he intended them. not exactly obviously, the tracks hadn't been mixed and they would have still needed some work before release, but they wouldn't be drastically different from what we have now. think of DJ Mathematic's Wu-Tang mixtape and the tracks that were on there from the new Wu album. those were the raw tracks, what we got on the album wasn't much different (some instruments added in, a few touch-ups here and there, etc.). that's the kind of shit that needed to be done with Pac's tracks, it's not as though he just rapped over a random beat, never planning on using that beat for that track.
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