How Is Jack & Jimmy Henchmen Involved With Quad!!

[Bombsquad]

No one ever explained this to me even though I posed this question in another thread.

Why was Pac mad at Henchmen and what was his role with the setup? Also explain to me how Hatian Jack snitched on 2pac that caused 2pac to go all out in the media and as a result being robbed? Was Hatian Jack involved in the rape case that night?

I always get the story mixed up from Tut falling out with Pac, to the police officers that testified against him all the way down to Jack and Henchmen. I need a more indepth knowledge of why Pac thought the way he thought and blamed those people.

Tell me how Henchmen and Jack tied into the equation of getting 2Pac set up?

Please help!!

 

[DeeezNuuuts83]

Haitian Jack was supposedly an informant. And to cover things up, apparently he would be tried for similar (if not the same) charges he was an informant for but separately ("Knew he was working for the Feds, same crime, different trials"), and then he would miraculously either be acquitted or given the minimal sentence, and this happened with different cases with different people before Pac's sexual assault case.

You can read this post for some more information:

http://www.streethop.com/forum/thread148610.html

It has a few errors though, but it should help clarify things a bit.

 

[Onion Juice]

Haitian Jack was supposedly an informant. And to cover things up, apparently he would be tried for similar (if not the same) charges he was an informant for but separately ("Knew he was working for the Feds, same crime, different trials"), and then he would miraculously either be acquitted or given the minimal sentence, and this happened with different cases with different people before Pac's sexual assault case.

Yeah, thats is strange for Jacques to get off with lesser or no sentence. Even from that rape victim's side of the story, Pac didnt even do anything to her but leave her in a room with Jacques and the other guy as if he let her get raped or something.

 

[Bombsquad]

Haitian Jack was supposedly an informant. And to cover things up, apparently he would be tried for similar (if not the same) charges he was an informant for but separately ("Knew he was working for the Feds, same crime, different trials"), and then he would miraculously either be acquitted or given the minimal sentence, and this happened with different cases with different people before Pac's sexual assault case.

You can read this post for some more information:

http://www.streethop.com/forum/thread148610.html

It has a few errors though, but it should help clarify things a bit.

So apparantely, Jack was rolling with 2pac at the nightclub. So there was no falling out back then. But how did 2pac and Tut get on bad terms? And what about my other questions in my first post?

 

[fiftycent2002]

bad boy was funded by black mafia supposingly .. pac was asked to join bad boy and he refused ..then he supposingly dissed tut and shit in the daily news ..so they put a hit out on him ... bad boy supposingly knew about it ... haitian jack and tut must have been connected because haitian jack was the one that "set up" pac for that charge

 

[Bombsquad]

bad boy was funded by black mafia supposingly .. pac was asked to join bad boy and he refused ..then he supposingly dissed tut and shit in the daily news ..so they put a hit out on him ... bad boy supposingly knew about it ... haitian jack and tut must have been connected because haitian jack was the one that "set up" pac for that charge

If thats what you are saying then why did 2pac diss tut in the daily news in the first place? How did they fall it?

I just don't get this shit.

 

[DeeezNuuuts83]

If thats what you are saying then why did 2pac diss tut in the daily news in the first place? How did they fall it?

In one of the Pac interviews from the In His Own Words CD, he says something like this (it's all from memory, so it might not be 100% accurate):

"What it is is the East Coast drug dealers [Black Mafia and associates perhaps?] had them niggas [Bad Boy] under extortion, I came and fucked up everything 'cause I dissed them niggas [Black Mafia and associates?] in the Daily News, and then they put a hit out on me."

 

[Bombsquad]

In one of the Pac interviews from the In His Own Words CD, he says something like this (it's all from memory, so it might not be 100% accurate):

"What it is is the East Coast drug dealers [Black Mafia and associates perhaps?] had them niggas [Bad Boy] under extortion, I came and fucked up everything 'cause I dissed them niggas [Black Mafia and associates?] in the Daily News, and then they put a hit out on me."

I got you there. But the thing is why did he diss them in the daily news. I know Pac was supposed to be mad at Hatian Jack for getting off due to him snitching, so I can understand why Pac dissed him in the daily news. My question is why did he diss Tut and the rest of the black mafia in the daily news? What did they do to Pac that caused Pac to lash out and them, which resulted in the setup? Like what caused Tut and 2Pac to having a misunderstanding that caused a fallout in the firstplace?

I need someone to explain the whole story in depth without posting any more links or any articles because I just don't get it. Theres just some spaces in between that just don't fill in for me.

 

[DeeezNuuuts83]

I guess Bad Boy was getting extorted for more money than they owed, so I guess Pac dissed them to stand up for Bad Boy.

 

[B-art]

Didn't he just diss them because he thought BMF helped set up the rape case? And then he said they did that because he didn't want to sign to bad boy.

At least, that's what I get from it..

 

[Onion Juice]

I got you there. But the thing is why did he diss them in the daily news. I know Pac was supposed to be mad at Hatian Jack for getting off due to him snitching, so I can understand why Pac dissed him in the daily news. My question is why did he diss Tut and the rest of the black mafia in the daily news? What did they do to Pac that caused Pac to lash out and them, which resulted in the setup? Like what caused Tut and 2Pac to having a misunderstanding that caused a fallout in the firstplace?

I need someone to explain the whole story in depth without posting any more links or any articles because I just don't get it. Theres just some spaces in between that just don't fill in for me.

Well, Pac didnt diss the Black Mafia, he just dissed Jacques Agnant who was affiliated with the BM. The Daily News interviewer asked Pac about one of the other guys (Jacques) he caught the rape case with, and Pac dissed him by calling him a "hanger-on" or a groupie or something. It was explain in VIBE Biggie's bio book and recently in the new issue of VIBE magazine (with Mary J on the cover)

Pac later saw Jacques @ the Puffy's birthday party. Pac asks Biggie if he was still hanging with Jacques, Biggie saids he aint and warns Pac not to either. Pac wants to know why, Biggie said they'll talk about it later but they didnt. A week or two later, Jimmy Henchmen calls Pac urging him to come to the studio to record with Lil Shawn. And Tut couldve possibly been one of the shooters. In the new VIBE, Jimmy said both Jacques and Tut are two of his former associates. Theres a picture of Jimmy Henchment with Tyson and Jacques with Vivica Fox. There's rumors that Mike Tyson even told Pac not deal with Jimmy Henchmen and Jacques...looks they may have been true.

 

[Bombsquad]

Well, Pac didnt diss the Black Mafia, he just dissed Jacques Agnant who was affiliated with the BM. The Daily News interviewer asked Pac about one of the other guys (Jacques) he caught the rape case with, and Pac dissed him by calling him a "hanger-on" or a groupie or something. It was explain in VIBE Biggie's bio book and recently in the new issue of VIBE magazine (with Mary J on the cover)

Pac later saw Jacques @ the Puffy's birthday party. Pac asks Biggie if he was still hanging with Jacques, Biggie saids he aint and warns Pac not to either. Pac wants to know why, Biggie said they'll talk about it later but they didnt. A week or two later, Jimmy Henchmen calls Pac urging him to come to the studio to record with Lil Shawn. And Tut couldve possibly been one of the shooters. In the new VIBE, Jimmy said both Jacques and Tut are two of his former associates. Theres a picture of Jimmy Henchment with Tyson and Jacques with Vivica Fox. There's rumors that Mike Tyson even told Pac not deal with Jimmy Henchmen and Jacques...looks they may have been true.

Did you hear that rumor from the allhiphop community? I'm just asking because I saw somebody write something like that and I didn't believe it.

 

[Onion Juice]

Did you hear that rumor from the allhiphop community? I'm just asking because I saw somebody write something like that and I didn't believe it.

You mean the rumor about Tyson warning Pac? Naw, that rumor has been around for years; I personally didnt hear about it until he died. Its been printed many times in books and articles about Pac though.

 

[Bombsquad]

Was Tut & BMF mentioned in the daily news article by 2pac at all? Also what year was Tyson locked up? I swore he was locked up in 1994. I thought he didn't even know 2pac that well.

Man someone provide more info. There's more to this that's missing.

 

[khamla]

It's all in the Biggie Vibe Book. There are a lot of missinformation out on the web that's old. People get confused with Jack, Tut, and Henchmen and often cross the three around.

Hatian Jack was the "alleged" one that shot Pac along with someone else who we don't know. It's all in the book, just read it. Pac said Jacks name in the newspaper calling him a hanger-on or something like that. Biggie told Pac not to mess with him, Pac said why? Biggie said i'll tell you later. This was at the party where Biggie, Pac, and even Jack attended. Next time Pac saw Biggie was when he went to the Quad that night.

They knew he (Pac) was coming. They (Bad Boy) knew Jack was there. They didn't warn Pac shit was gonna go down. Boom boom boom, you know what happens next.

The book also explains that Jack was the one that introduce the female to Pac. (The rape victim). It's a good interesting read, don't want to give too much away that we've talked about in the past already.

 

[Onion Juice]

They knew he (Pac) was coming. They (Bad Boy) knew Jack was there. They didn't warn Pac shit was gonna go down. Boom boom boom, you know what happens next.

The book also explains that Jack was the one that introduce the female to Pac. (The rape victim). It's a good interesting read, don't want to give too much away that we've talked about in the past already.

According to the book, Biggie, Puffy, Lil Cease and Junior Mafia didnt know Pac was coming. Just Jimmy Henchmen who urged him to come to studio.

Here's a rundown: Puffy was having a meeting with Andre Harell; Biggie and JM were in a session (other artists like SWV, Jodeci, and Mobb Deep were there also one different floors having their own sessions); Cease from the balcony sees Pac down below entering the building and greets him from up high, Cease tells Biggie that Pac is coming, Biggie tells Cease to bring Pac up, Cease takes the elevator down to the lobby, Cease sees Pac, Stretch and the others on the floor getting robbed (assuming by this time Pac is tuning in and out as their beating/shooting him as he describe to VIBE), one of the gunmen tells Cease to get the fuck back on the elevator and he does, Cease goes back upstairs and tells Biggie, Biggie and another guy goes downstairs to see whats going on, by the time he gets downstairs, he doesnt see Pac or anybody (probably already went upstairs via the elevator) but the police in the lobby (probably the ones Pac and his manager saw *coincidentally* pulling up around the corner when he tried to chase the robbers outside). Somebody interrupts Puffy's meeting with Harnell and informs him about the situation, Puffy grabs his gun, Harnell asks him whats he's doing with a gun, and Puffy just tells him that things have changed for him. Then they go into the room where Pac's been brought up at...

And after reading that VIBE article on him, Im almost convinced Jimmy also orchestrated the Las Vegas shooting too.

 

[khamla]

^^ Are you talking about the Vibe article or the BIGGIE VIBE book. I thought i remember reading, Biggie was the one that grabed Pac's gun and gave it to him at the hospital.

 

[Onion Juice]

^^ Are you talking about the Vibe article or the BIGGIE VIBE book. I thought i remember reading, Biggie was the one that grabed Pac's gun and gave it to him at the hospital.

Both.

VIBE's Biggie book explains the whole in depth and mentions Biggie's finding Pac's gun stashed in a piano and tryin to take it to him at the hospital. The new VIBE magazine (with Mary J) has a Jimmy Henchmen interview where he explains his problem with Pac.