Here is excerpts from a convo I saw on FB.
(Names obviously changed).
Who do you think is correct?
(Names obviously changed).
Vincent: FB simply cannot afford to give a damn about my privacy.
Brad: If you want privacy, stay off the internet.
Tim: Stay off the net is a pretty lame solution. Companies need to be sensitive to people and let them choose what they want to share or not. Sadly the advertising dollar outweighs people's wishes.
Brad: The internet wasn't initially designed for privacy. In its inception, it was designed for open information sharing by the developers. Expecting privacy on a service that has been retrofitted for it, after the fact, is wishful thinking.
There is no privacy on the net, or anywhere else for that matter.
Unless you live in a remote corner of the countryside on a homestead. And even then, satellite reconnaissance can zoom into a 3 meter area from orbit.
Honestly, unless people do things they are ashamed of, I don't see this big need for privacy.
There is no privacy on the net, or anywhere else for that matter.
Unless you live in a remote corner of the countryside on a homestead. And even then, satellite reconnaissance can zoom into a 3 meter area from orbit.
Honestly, unless people do things they are ashamed of, I don't see this big need for privacy.
William: Tim, I agree. I don't mind advertising dollars having weight, and it's just reality that some companies are going to find them to be heavier than people's wishes. But those companies need to feel the wrath of their customers for those decisions.
Bradley, I disagree. I don't think any particular design decision of the Internet was oriented towards the lack of privacy. From the moment the Internet left the bounds of academia "cypherpunks" were there to build privacy into it, ...in the form of anonymity or pseudonymity.
...And I certainly don't agree that only the shameful have something to hide. There are many legitimate reasons to want to participate in society while deciding what aspects of oneself others know about.
Bradley, I disagree. I don't think any particular design decision of the Internet was oriented towards the lack of privacy. From the moment the Internet left the bounds of academia "cypherpunks" were there to build privacy into it, ...in the form of anonymity or pseudonymity.
...And I certainly don't agree that only the shameful have something to hide. There are many legitimate reasons to want to participate in society while deciding what aspects of oneself others know about.
Vincent: the nature of the infrastructure of the interwebs obviously has a fundamental impact on the way information is shared.
but this is neither here nor there with regard to my post.
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FB makes deliberate decisions with regard to whatever data i might have stored on their servers. the decisions FB tends to make about how they use this data indicate pretty clearly that they are doing whatever they can to make those dollars, with as little regard for privacy as legally possible. apps (games) is one way they do this.
and i kinda doubt the design limitations of the internet were a deciding factor in any of these decisions.
but this is neither here nor there with regard to my post.
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FB makes deliberate decisions with regard to whatever data i might have stored on their servers. the decisions FB tends to make about how they use this data indicate pretty clearly that they are doing whatever they can to make those dollars, with as little regard for privacy as legally possible. apps (games) is one way they do this.
and i kinda doubt the design limitations of the internet were a deciding factor in any of these decisions.