Facebook Privacy

Shadows

Well-Known Member
#1
Here is excerpts from a convo I saw on FB.
(Names obviously changed).

Vincent: FB simply cannot afford to give a damn about my privacy.
Brad: If you want privacy, stay off the internet.
Tim: Stay off the net is a pretty lame solution. Companies need to be sensitive to people and let them choose what they want to share or not. Sadly the advertising dollar outweighs people's wishes.

Brad: The internet wasn't initially designed for privacy. In its inception, it was designed for open information sharing by the developers. Expecting privacy on a service that has been retrofitted for it, after the fact, is wishful thinking.

There is no privacy on the net, or anywhere else for that matter.
Unless you live in a remote corner of the countryside on a homestead. And even then, satellite reconnaissance can zoom into a 3 meter area from orbit.
Honestly, unless people do things they are ashamed of, I don't see this big need for privacy.

William: Tim, I agree. I don't mind advertising dollars having weight, and it's just reality that some companies are going to find them to be heavier than people's wishes. But those companies need to feel the wrath of their customers for those decisions.

Bradley, I disagree. I don't think any particular design decision of the Internet was oriented towards the lack of privacy. From the moment the Internet left the bounds of academia "cypherpunks" were there to build privacy into it, ...in the form of anonymity or pseudonymity.

...And I certainly don't agree that only the shameful have something to hide. There are many legitimate reasons to want to participate in society while deciding what aspects of oneself others know about.
Vincent: the nature of the infrastructure of the interwebs obviously has a fundamental impact on the way information is shared.

but this is neither here nor there with regard to my post.
...
FB makes deliberate decisions with regard to whatever data i might have stored on their servers. the decisions FB tends to make about how they use this data indicate pretty clearly that they are doing whatever they can to make those dollars, with as little regard for privacy as legally possible. apps (games) is one way they do this.

and i kinda doubt the design limitations of the internet were a deciding factor in any of these decisions.
Who do you think is correct?
 

Sebastian

Well-Known Member
#3
All i can say is that i dont care about this whole privacy issue on social networks.

Im not even a member of one anymore. Privacy problems werent the reason for logging off though.
 

EDouble

Will suck off black men for a dime
#4
think of it like this people can open your mail from your mail box but when they are caught they are shot

why is it a double standard for the internet?
 

Pittsey

Knock, Knock...
Staff member
#13
The problem is Sofi... He is a stalker....



In fact. So do I!!!

Who doesn't do a bit of facebook stalking? Hang on... What was the topic again?
 

Prize Gotti

Boots N Cats
Staff member
#14
the privacy on FB is fine, as long as you set it correctly u got nothing to worry about. Problem is people are too dumb to do this, then complain they got hacked or w/e.
 

Cooper

Well-Known Member
#15
the privacy on FB is fine, as long as you set it correctly u got nothing to worry about. Problem is people are too dumb to do this, then complain they got hacked or w/e.
thsi and the constantly changing defaults.
 

S O F I

Administrator
Staff member
#16
You have no privacy on Facebook in the sense that the people you choose to share stuff with (your closest friends) could use that information to get you in trouble, whether it be at your job, with your family, or try and sell your personal information to third parties. Generally speaking, you don't have privacy on the Internet. You'd truly have to go way out of your way to be anonymous. For example, if you use Gmail, you probably noticed that the ads you see on the top of your inbox are targeted and match the content of your e-mails. That's a lack of privacy in a sense. The difference is you might not care enough. You also have your ISP logging your web traffic. Then there's the plethora of trackers that Web sites use to better understand who visits and what they do. You can use programs like Ghostery to block those. I have Google Adsense and Google Analytics blocked while using this forum and they're pretty harmless trackers.
 

Pittsey

Knock, Knock...
Staff member
#17
^^


And usually when there's a news story today the tabloids use facebook as a research tool. Probably cheaper and easier than real work.
 

Da_Funk

Well-Known Member
#18
People who expect privacy on the net need to wake the fuck up. Anyone who is putting info about themselves on the internet that can be used to hurt them is, for lack of a better word, stupid.
 

S O F I

Administrator
Staff member
#19
Zombie cookie wars: evil tracking API meant to "raise awareness"

Case in point: evercookie, an open source JavaScript API by developer Samy Kamkar. When implemented by a website, evercookie stores a user ID and cookie data in not two, not three, but eight different places—with more on the way. Among them are your standard HTTP cookies, Flash cookies, RGB values of force-cached PNGs, your Web history, and a smattering of HTML5 storage features. In addition, Silverlight Storage and Java are apparently on the way.

So, when you delete the cookie in one, three, or five places, evercookie can dip into one of its many other repositories to poll your user ID and restore the data tracking cookies. It works cross-browser, too—if the Local Shared Object cookie is intact, evercookie can spread to whatever other browsers you choose to use on the same machine. Since most users are barely aware of these storage methods, it's unlikely that users will ever delete all of them.
 

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