Duke

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I'm sorry if this has been asked before.
I know biggie used 2 call Pac "Duke". When i look into my 'life after death" booklet, it says: Thank you's: God, mom, DUKE, My wife faith Evans Wallace etc.

Was he thanking Pac here? I know this was released after both died. So my question is: was Big thanking Pac? Or is it done after Big died and did some-else put it in there 2 keep/ restore the peace?
 
#3
wow, this was never brought up. Good finding and I'll think we'll never find out the answer. But I doubt it because Big diss Pac in Long Kiss Goodnight, so mostly he is not going to thanks Pac and diss him in the same album.
 
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Dante said:
mom dukes is slang for mother. if there's a comma there, it's probably a type-o.
It says: "God, Mom, Duke etc.
So his mom is already mentioned and there aint a comma...
I've allways assumed Big "dedicated" to Pac to bury the shit....
 

Dante

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#11
if it's a reference to pac it's a diss. that album has a gang of disses to pac in it, so i'd find it hard to believe that in some of the og's he calls for pac's death and then gives props in the album cover.
 
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Dante said:
if it's a reference to pac it's a diss. that album has a gang of disses to pac in it, so i'd find it hard to believe that in some of the og's he calls for pac's death and then gives props in the album cover.
Dante you must be on some drugs or you have been listening to pac's music way too long what am I saying?!! If you just listened to his music nothing would have been wrong but you are straight up dickryding him...idolising him..Thats wrong...

I dunno what duke means but I always got the feeling it was a positive thing..Maybe I misunderstood your post but fuck i have some other things to bitch about...

Even if biggie wished for pac's death on records it was simply to keep his gangsta...Plus when you get attacked you have the right to defend yourself so the OG's are nothing but a repsonse..

All i can say is:

Newayz DUKE= not pac....

DUKE= regular slang

I don't know the actual meaning of it tho..
 
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one mc on dj said:
Dante you must be on some drugs or you have been listening to pac's music way too long what am I saying?!! If you just listened to his music nothing would have been wrong but you are straight up dickryding him...idolising him..Thats wrong...
lol...
 

Dante

Meyer & Dante Best Friends4eva
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one mc on dj said:
Dante you must be on some drugs or you have been listening to pac's music way too long what am I saying?!! If you just listened to his music nothing would have been wrong but you are straight up dickryding him...idolising him..Thats wrong...

I dunno what duke means but I always got the feeling it was a positive thing..Maybe I misunderstood your post but fuck i have some other things to bitch about...
ok, newb (to hip hop that is) i already broke it down. mom dukes is hip hop slang. if the comma is correct, and if biggie referred to pac as duke, then it would be a diss considering that life after death is full of disses to pac. i'm not wure what is so hard to understand about this, unless you are a complete moron.

and fyi, my tastes in music are much more eclectic than you'd ever know. and i think you'd be a fool top idolize any person whom you have never met. this is a 2PAC site, so it assumes we all share an interest in the guy. for real, children shouldn't be allowed to post here. if you can't express your opinion without attacking someone, you'll never get very far in your miserable life.
 
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Dante said:
ok, newb (to hip hop that is) i already broke it down. mom dukes is hip hop slang. if the comma is correct, and if biggie referred to pac as duke, then it would be a diss considering that life after death is full of disses to pac. i'm not wure what is so hard to understand about this, unless you are a complete moron.

and fyi, my tastes in music are much more eclectic than you'd ever know. children shouldn't be allowed to post here. if you can't express your opinion without attacking someone, you'll never get very far in your miserable life.
LOL...I can express my opinion without attacking someone but I chose to attack you cuz ur posting bullshit..I know you like to stay in LIFE (where the average is 12) cuz ur some god here kids look up to you..oh 2pac 2pac great great if you are not a dickryder you just love the attention of lil boys...nuff said MJ...

You said if biggie referred to pac as duke...lol..it's a diss why would it be a diss seriously think about it...Ok here's how I look at it.. let's say it's pac BIG reffered to..Do you think he would even take the energy and the time to diss Pac once more in the Thank You's? COULD IT BE POSSIBLE THAT HE WAS JUST GIVIN PAC A SHOUT OUT LIKE AIGHT I STILL GOT LOVE 4 YOU?
COULD IT BE THAT THE DISSES WERE JUST A RESPONSE TO PAC BUT HE LOVES THE PERSON NO HOMO...?

Is that too hard 4 you to understand...?

I agree with you when you say it most likely isn't pac...but if it is I definetly disagree to say that's a diss...No 1!! and I mean absolutely no1 would even think about something like that...

You are just another one of those old pac fans that lost his mind...

I feel sorry for you...Get real no 1 would do something like that...

Educate these kids don't manipulate em... :mad:

OH and just cuz I don't check all the slang doesn't mean im a hip hop newb lol....but nice try..
 

Dante

Meyer & Dante Best Friends4eva
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one mc on dj said:
LOL...I can express my opinion without attacking someone but I chose to attack you cuz ur posting bullshit..I know you like to stay in LIFE (where the average is 12) cuz ur some god here kids look up to you..oh 2pac 2pac great great if you are not a dickryder you just love the attention of lil boys...nuff said MJ...

You said if biggie referred to pac as duke...lol..it's a diss why would it be a diss seriously think about it...Ok here's how I look at it.. let's say it's pac BIG reffered to..Do you think he would even take the energy and the time to diss Pac once more in the Thank You's? COULD IT BE POSSIBLE THAT HE WAS JUST GIVIN PAC A SHOUT OUT LIKE AIGHT I STILL GOT LOVE 4 YOU?
COULD IT BE THAT THE DISSES WERE JUST A RESPONSE TO PAC BUT HE LOVES THE PERSON NO HOMO...?

Is that too hard 4 you to understand...?

I agree with you when you say it most likely isn't pac...but if it is I definetly disagree to say that's a diss...No 1!! and I mean absolutely no1 would even think about something like that...

You are just another one of those old pac fans that lost his mind...

I feel sorry for you...Get real no 1 would do something like that...

Educate these kids don't manipulate em... :mad:

OH and just cuz I don't check all the slang doesn't mean im a hip hop newb lol....but nice try..
have YOU listened to life after death? how about some of the og's from that album where biggie and puffy both call for pac's death. oh but in the liner notes everything is forgiven?

sounds to me like you've choses a pretty shitty little argument to try to show me out on, buddy.

maybe i'm wrong, but it sounds to me that buy your lack of understanding of something as basic as mom dukes that you must have jumped onto hip hop with a late pass. mom dukes has been in hip hop since run dmc's first album. where you been?

...after an ip check i see you're from the netherlands. ok, fair enough, maybe you weren't fortunate enough to grow up on real hip hop instead of this plastic ass shit. heads up, don't try to school someone on hip hop when they were raised on it and have organized well publicized hip hop summits with some of the west's largest names if you yourself can't claim the same. my post was a logical opinion-based explanation of the thread starter's topic. all of this negativity is coming from your own feelings on inadequacy.
 

Nick

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Dante said:
have YOU listened to life after death? how about some of the og's from that album where biggie and puffy both call for pac's death. oh but in the liner notes everything is forgiven?
What og tracks are you refering to, and would I be able to find them?
 
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Dante said:
have YOU listened to life after death? how about some of the og's from that album where biggie and puffy both call for pac's death. oh but in the liner notes everything is forgiven?

sounds to me like you've choses a pretty shitty little argument to try to show me out on, buddy.

maybe i'm wrong, but it sounds to me that buy your lack of understanding of something as basic as mom dukes that you must have jumped onto hip hop with a late pass. mom dukes has been in hip hop since run dmc's first album. where you been?
Man it's not even about the word DUKE...

I meant: What if he was just strictly dissing the rapper? But had love 4 the guy? What if wishing 4 some 1's death was just to keep his gangsta image?

Im saying why can't Big be like that? Why does it automatically have to be so negative you get what Im saying? Why couldn't he have made a line between the rapper 2pac and the person tupac shakur...
LEt's say he said Thank you 2pac...ya know what im trying to say?

.after an ip check i see you're from the netherlands. ok, fair enough, maybe you weren't fortunate enough to grow up on real hip hop instead of this plastic ass shit. heads up, don't try to school someone on hip hop when they were raised on it and have organized well publicized hip hop summits with some of the west's largest names if you yourself can't claim the same. my post was a logical opinion-based explanation of the thread starter's topic. all of this negativity is coming from your own feelings on inadequacy.
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Aw cut it please...don't brag...dont brag don't brag...

The duke thing wasn't my intention...It was about well i have made that clear or at least tried to earlier in this post...
 
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