Drunken freestyle....

#6
I think he originally freestyled it then listened back to it and written what he wanted to keep and wrote untouchable feat. left eye and killuminati cause both of those songs have elements of his drunken freestyle. Untouchable is closer to an exact copy of his freestyle though.. Hope this cleared things up for you a bit.
 
#7
Most of that is clearly not freestyled. For all the things Pac was capable of with a mic, he couldn't freestyle that well for 6 minutes straight. Listen to some of his real freestyles.

Plus there's such a difference in the quality of the rhymes during the Drunken Freestyle that you can tell what parts of it had already been written and what parts Pac was improvising.
 
#8
yea pac wasnt a great freestyler but he was good enough and his writing skills make up for it. its pretty obvious what is and isnt prewritten. all the lines from killuminati were prewritten because untouchable probably came afterwards considering he recorded after returning from italy. the shit like "the only one bring a gun blahblah blah" is all freestyle probably.
 
#9
I'm pretty sure that starting from "In my hand, got the .45..", he freestyled. Everything before that, starting from "After the fire comes the rain", was written.
 
#10
omgwtflol said:
I'm pretty sure that starting from "In my hand, got the .45..", he freestyled. Everything before that, starting from "After the fire comes the rain", was written.
Agreed. It's not a spectacular freestyle, but the lyrics he dropped were close to his usual flow in his songs. He still dropped some pretty cool lines:

"When they get to come against us/
These niggas be defenseless and senseless/
Knockin' niggas back on the fences"

"Raise hell until I get my mail/
Will I fail? Hell naw, nigga, bite my nails/
I keep a manicure, though you panic, you're
Still gon' die when Pac get high"

I just don't like his laugh in this freestyle, like when he goes, "Whether it's New York or Texas, ride through in the Lexus/ or BMW, I trouble you, throwing up forever this big ol' W... ha HA HA HA HA" and "Niggas out there wanna do me/ But it's Mobb Deep, Bad Boy, and Fugees, HA HA HA HA HA"
 
#11
Dante said:
yep. most of pac's better freestyles had elements of pre-written songs to them.
Or that he wrote the lyrics after freestyling them? Not that i really believe that, but its a possibility?

Also i think people get confused by the word freestyle.
You can either make up some lyrics live to the beat, or you can flow pre-written lyrics to some random beats, where the freestyling part is getting the flow tight on the beat.
 
#12
Minardi said:
Also i think people get confused by the word freestyle.
You can either make up some lyrics live to the beat, or you can flow pre-written lyrics to some random beats, where the freestyling part is getting the flow tight on the beat.
True. Basically any flowed lyrics over a beat can be labeled as freestyling, but in my opinion, rapping lyrics off the top of your head, not pre-written, is freestyling in its purest form.
Like HellRazor05 said, most rappers don't even really freestyle, especially if its on the radio. Most of Eminem's "freestyles" are pre-written, with some exceptions, and you'll know... his lyrics on the deleted footage from 8 Mile (NOT in the actual movie itself, but on the bonus features) was truly freestyled, whereas when you type in "Eminem Freestyle" in kazaa or whatever you guys use nowadays, you'll get pre-written Eminem lyrics flowed over some beat. The only place with real freestyling nowadays is those freestyle battles where they go back and forth for several rounds.
 
#14
SiGh said:
he alwayz admitted he couldnt freestyle..right?
I don't think Pac ever said that he couldn't freestyle... the closest thing he has said is in that one interview ("No Peace Treaty") where he was saying the things that the East Coast would say about the West Coast ("You can't just be calling us fakers and pretenders and non-creative motherfuckers and we can't freestyle and this and that and this.")
But it's interesting how Pac's rhyming skills on the spot were alright, yet he could write songs all day long for months at a time.
 

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