Of course you have.
Just like me, I'm sure you've had attractive female friends that always seemed to date "jerks"... but for some reason they were never romantically interested in YOU.
What's going on here?
It's actually very simple...
Women don't base their choices of men on how "nice" a guy is. They choose the men they do because they feel a powerful GUT LEVEL ATTRACTION for them.
And guess what?
Being nice doesn't make a woman FEEL that powerful ATTRACTION.
And being NICE doesn't make a woman CHOOSE you.
I realize that this doesn't make a lot of logical sense, and it's hard to ACCEPT... but GET OVER IT.
Until you accept this FACT and begin to act on it, you'll NEVER have the success with women that you want.


What do most guys do when they meet a woman that they REALLY like... but she's just not interested?
Right! They try to "convince" the woman to feel differently.
Well, I have news for you... YOU WILL NEVER CHANGE HOW A WOMAN "FEELS" WHEN IT COMES TO ATTRACTION!
Never, ever, EVER.
You cannot CONVINCE a woman to feel differently about you with "logic and reasoning".
Think about it.
If a woman doesn't "feel it" for you, how in the world do you expect to change that FEELING by being "reasonable" with her?
But we all do it.
When a woman just isn't interested, we beg, plead, chase, and do our best to change her mind.
Bad idea. One that will never work.
In our desire to please women (which we mistakenly think will make them like us), us guys are always doing things to get a woman's "approval" or "permission".
Another HORRIBLE idea.
Women are NEVER attracted to the types of men who kiss up to them... EVER.
Don't get me wrong here.
You don't have to treat women BADLY for them to like you.
But if you think that treating a woman well means "always getting her approval and permission for things", think again.
You will never succeed by looking for approval. Women actually get ANNOYED at men who seek their approval.
Doubt me? Just ask any attractive woman if Wussy guys who chase her around and want her approval annoy her...


How many times have you taken a woman out to a nice dinner, bought her gifts and flowers, and had her REJECT you for someone who didn't treat her even HALF as well as you did?
If you're like me, then you've had it happen a LOT.
Well guess what?
It's only NATURAL when this happens...
That's right, I said NATURAL.
When you do these things, you send a clear message:
"I don't think you'll like me for who I am, so I'm going to try to buy your attention and affection".
Your good intentions usually come across to women as over-compensation for insecurity, and weak attempts at manipulation. That's right, I said that women see this as MANIPULATION.

Another huge and unfortunate mistake that most men make with women is sharing how they "feel" too early on.
Attractive women are rare.
And they get a LOT of attention from men.
Most men don't realize this, but attractive women are being approached in one way or another ALL THE
An attractive woman is often approached several times a DAY by men who are interested. This translate into dozens of times per week, and often HUNDREDS of times per month.
And guess what?
Attractive women have usually dated a LOT of men.
That's right. They have EXPERIENCE.
They know what to expect.
And one thing that turns an attractive women off and sends her running away faster than just about anything is a guy who starts saying "You know, I really, REALLY like you" after one or two dates.
This signals to the woman that you're just like all the other guys who fall for her too fast... and can't control themselves.
Don't do it. Lean back. Relax.
There's a much better way...


Women are VERY different from men when it comes to ATTRACTION.
You need to accept this fact, and deal with it.
When a man sees a beautiful, young, sexy woman, he INSTANTLY feels a sexual attraction.
But does the same apply for women?
Do women feel sexual attraction to men based mostly on looks? Or is something else going on?
Well, after studying this topic for over five full years now, I can tell you that women usually have their "attraction mechanisms" triggered by things OTHER than looks.
Have you ever noticed that you see a lot more average and unattractive men with beautiful women than the other way around?
Think about it.
Women are more attracted to certain qualities in men... and they're attracted to the way a man makes them FEEL than they are to looks alone.
If you know how to use your body language and communication correctly, you can make women feel the same kind of powerful sexual attraction to you that YOU feel when you see a hot, sexy young woman.
But it's not an accident. You have to LEARN how to do this.
And ANY guy can learn how...
One of the most common mistakes that guys make is giving up before they've even gotten started... because they think that attractive women are only interested in men who have looks and money... or guys who are a certain height... or guys who are a certain age.
And sure, there are some women who are only interested in these things.
But MOST women are far more interested in a man's personality than his wallet or his looks.
There are personality traits that attract women like a magnet...
And if you learn what they are and how to use them, YOU can be one of these guys.
YOU DO NOT have to "settle" for a woman just because you aren't rich, tall, or handsome.
Let me say this again: If you know how to use your body language and communication correctly, you can make women feel the same kind of powerful sexual attraction to you that YOU feel when you see a hot, sexy young woman.
Earlier I mentioned that it's a mistake to look to a woman for approval or permission.
Well, another similar tactic that a lot of guys use is GIVING AWAY THEIR POWER to women.
Said differently, guys try to get women to like them by doing whatever the woman wants.
Another bad idea...
Women are NEVER attracted to men that they can walk all over... Women aren't attracted to Wussies!


Now I'm going to blow your mind...
A woman ALWAYS knows what you're thinking.
Women are approximately TEN TIMES better than men at reading body language. That's ten TIMES.
I know, it might be hard to believe. But for example, if you're out on a date with a woman, and you want to kiss her, she knows it.
And if you don't know exactly what to do and exactly HOW to kiss her, and you just sit there looking at her and getting nervous, she won't help!
And this goes for ALL aspects of women and dating...
Approaching a woman, getting her number, asking her out, kissing her, getting physical... everything.
If you don't know what to do in each situation, you will probably screw it up... and LOSE EVERYTHING.
And you KNOW it.
It is VITALLY important that you know EXACTLY how to go from one step to the next with a woman... from the first meeting, all the way to the bedroom.
This is the biggest mistake of all.
This is the mistake that keeps most men from EVER having the kind of success with women that they truly want.
I know, guys don't like to make themselves look weak or helpless. We don't like to ask for help.

You can buy my love with food. But only for the meal, after that it's ciao good bye thanks for meal!

No but for real some of those are true. Women want security. That's a fact. At least that is what I want.

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You should include the source.

Those are probably true but it's more like an idiot guide to dating. I think if you meet a woman who doesn't have her head up her ass a lot of those points fall away. I understand the reason why overly nice guys get the boot but often women don't seem to get the difference between a nice guy and a wuss. I'm confident that I'm one of the nicer guys around but like one of my exes professed I'm not nice to argue with. I don't tolerate bullshit and I shut off emotionally when I'm pissed off for a valid reason. I'm sure plenty of women confuse me trying to treat people right with being too unconfident to be the 'real' me.

With a nice guy you can get A) treated right B) have a "manly" man. With the type of guys women usually date you get A) a "manly" man B) treated poorly. Just need to get rid of the cave(wo)man perception that a real man needs to be an alpha male. I don't like the idea of a sex having to act a certain way but in a lot of cases I do agree that a guy should be able to kick the ass of anything that comes in a woman's way. But you don't need to have your balls hanging out to be able to do that.

Women want their men to be confident and this is perfectly reasonable but their increased ability to read people isn't enough, they need to understand men and they don't (we all know men don't understand women but it's exactly the same vice versa). The only thing they understand is that you can use our obsession with sex against us. It becomes so obvious when you're at parties and you see the type of guys girls pick out. Just look around and try to find the biggest douchebags in the room and guaranteed that one of them will be fucking tonight. Fuck a small line between confidence and arrogance, confidence is shown through action, it's the arrogance you're noticing when you can tell a "confident" person from miles away. There's a difference between being able to be the life of the party and always trying to be it.

I'm generalizing of course.

I'd like to see a similar guide to men. And each written by both a woman and a man.

EDIT: One fun example that I noticed in the last months that's simply become a stereotype for me. I knew this girl through a friend and she started dating this guy. Before they were dating I had seen pictures of the guy and seen him around parties and he pissed me off as a person. Just by looking at him I knew I could accurately judge him on certain characteristics. I imagined he's the type of guy to plant "seeds" with different girls (usually at parties because the girls are ready to be hit on and usually drunk), sweet-talked them into have sex by giving them the false image of a troubled but obviously caring guy that just needed to be loved and manipulated them without caring. The following events occured: They hooked up at a party, she was drunk. He dumped her a week later because she didn't want to have sex. Some weeks later me and a friend saw her drunk at the bar of a party making out with him. I imagined he probably told her how sorry he was for treating her so poorly and that he had time to think and that he's a changed man. She told her friend (who's my friend's girlfriend, which is how I get all the juicy!) that he was sorry and he now realized she was the one for him. After she discovered he currently had two fuck-buddies on the side (one of them being a friend of hers) she decided to just "use him for sex" (*coughs*) for a while. I think at this point they're dating again. I was very much attracted to her when I first met her but after trying to hit on her in between her dating guys like that (I won a bet with 2 friends by giving her the benefit of the doubt and wagered she'd be single for 6 weeks) and other personality traits that have become apparant she's not that interesting anymore. That guy knows the list.

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I'm tired of being pushed around like a stolen shopping cart full of rotten pumpkin meat!

^^ In response to your example-story:

The girl is stupid. She's getting played.

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Yeah that's why I think it's an idiot guide to dating. That list applies to stereotypical women like that girl and that's why guys like that are able to get into their pants. They understand that treating most people is like treating a dog, just have to understand their psyche, manipulate it and they'll be sniffing your crotch in no time.

I think when you meet a smart woman you can't make a list like this.

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"If you're frightened of dying and you're holding on, you'll see devils tearing your life away. But if you've made your peace, then the devils are really angels freeing you from the earth"

I'm tired of being pushed around like a stolen shopping cart full of rotten pumpkin meat!

A woman is also just a person with likes and dislikes. One supermodel may totally get turned off by facial hair, the next one will float out of her panties at the first sight of a beard.


It's not like there's a big 10 point list that will make sure every woman on earth is immediately understandable. :o One may like a sweet guy, the other wants a more "take charge" kind of character. Same with men.

Although I think the small bit about how women are differently attracted to partners than men was not far from the truth. There's definitely a difference there.

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I know but to me the only reason why this list applies to a lot of women is because people are stupid. You can predict human behavior because we're still animals but it's become even more predictable, which allows for such a detailed list, because people are walking stereotypes. If there were more people around who actually thought about things, including their own animal desires, this list would differ greatly/be far less detailed/not be possible to make.

I think these type of lists help you pick up women in bars, the type that are bound to spread to legs as long as a guy who fakes it good enough comes along.

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"If you're frightened of dying and you're holding on, you'll see devils tearing your life away. But if you've made your peace, then the devils are really angels freeing you from the earth"

I'm tired of being pushed around like a stolen shopping cart full of rotten pumpkin meat!

I always won girls with being a nice guy. I'm not especially handsome, outgoing and such but my strategy is to be nice and look straight and honest and it usually works. The only downfall is that it usually works in the long run. I get girl's number and I make her like me so some points of this list are just inaccurate while some are obvious.

I think most jerks and people who lie a lot have the easiest fucking on parties but can't keep a relationship so imo it's quite fair.
My problem is that I can't lie much. When I'm with a girl I'm being me.

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I can relate to #1, #2, #5, #6 and #9.

And before I go on I'll say that much of this is, at least from my experience, quite accurate.

But this knowledge does not help me, it just really pisses me off.

In regards to #1, I am just a really nice guy. This is not something I have the ability to change. I was raised to be a kind, honest and considerate person and it's deplorable that those kind of attributes should be somehow detrimental when pursuing women.

As for #2, I completely agree that you cannot convince a girl to like you. No matter what you say, what you do, how badly you want her, you are incapable of changing her mind. However, what really infuriates me is when you've been hanging out with a girl/fooling around, whatever you want to call it and they refuse to give you a chance - that right there is what makes me more upset than anything. Because if they've been fooling around with you, then obviously they don't find you repulsive, they must be attracted to you, they must like you in some way. But the refusal to give you any kind of chance is beyond frustrating.

I get what your saying in #5 and it makes sense, but why is it so unreasonable for a woman to see things from the guy's point of view? Yeah, so the girl is attractive and she is accustomed to always getting hit on by guys. Who gives a fuck? Why can't a guy be honest and open and tell her how he feels? At least the girl now has an understanding that she's not getting involved with some fucking loser who just wants to fuck her and forget her. He actually has feelings for her. She should respect and appreciate that.

I don't even know what to say about #6. The fact that guys should be expected to know exactly what to do to make a woman [b]feel[b] a certain way is fucking retarded. This whole guy/girl thing and all these fucking games is really annoying to me. If a guy likes a girl he should be able to approach her and tell her so. And then she can say whether or not she feels the same way. This whole notion of the guy having to guess how to make the woman [b]feel for him[b] and blah blah blah with accurate body language and women are more intuitive and all that bullshit is enough to make someone want to cut their jugular.

I feel like you struck gold with #9 but it also pisses me the fuck off because it shouldn't be that way. I can relate to what your saying about how "you know that the girl knows you want to kiss her but she's not helping in any way." This is just plain cold. Again, why can't anything be seen through the guy's eyes. Girls, look at it from his point of view for a moment instead of thinking about your fucking self. The guy had to find the courage to ask you out, take you out, probably pay for everything on the date. He's gone to a lot of trouble to make things go right and you've done nothing but sit on your ass the whole time. Now the guy wants to kiss you and he's nervous as hell and he just wants things to go well and he is thinking about the best way to go about kissing you and you know this.

And all you do is sit there, not helping at all. That's a fucking bitch.

So overall, I agree with what you're saying but it doesn't leave me feeling like I've gained insight. Like oh, okay now I'll approach her this way. It just leaves me feeling very angry that this bullshit is accepted.

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